The Prowler
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Trump's Ballroom
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He and MOOCHELLE did a lot more than that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The ballroom is going to be bigger than the White House itself.
What a monstrosity. What a stupid motherfucker.
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From the front view of the White House, the ballroom will not look any bigger than the Old East Wing.
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In a couple weeks it went from, not touching the White House, to well we need to take down one wall, to I’m a king I do what I want and you’re not the boss of me!
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Lily
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Why couldn't they keep the trees and replant them after the renovations...?
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The trees weren’t about Trump, hello!
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Sorry, I was thinking...
The Prowler
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Maybe he should get someone to bulldoze Melania a new face.. personality. Let it go on auto pilot and bulldoze every bit of Trump and his bullshit. Including his die hard followers. Just for giggles.
I mean lets make America and the world GREAT AGAIN.
I mean lets make America and the world GREAT AGAIN.
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Man, I remember what that East Wing looked like....it was so.......
It was so..........
It was so so.
Now it will be Great!
It was so..........
It was so so.
Now it will be Great!
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You're a faggot.
Utter trash. God. Anyone who thinks gold plated toilets, pounds of orange makeup, long floppy red ties, and shiny gold sneakers are classy is tacky as fuck.
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Hiya, Lotus! You just gotta have at least one "yell at the sky" rant about Trump every day, don't you?
There, there, dear. Only three years and three months moar. ;)
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I bet I am the only one here who has actually been in The East Wing of The White House.
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Trump needs more ballroom
That's funny
That's funny
Incorrect.
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Well, no, actually. I wasn't on BF at all for three days prior, so you're a tool, as always.
BTW, Trump will not be alive in 3 years, 3 months. Get back to me on that.
He wants to destroy everything that's not about him.
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$300 million ballroom so he can have YMCA blaring while he does the double jerk-off dance.
Aaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
Aaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
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An Architect talks Vanity Ballroom architecture
A post by an architect about the White House “Ballroom” has been making the rounds and while very informative, I feel like it’s missing some important construction details that may help tell the full story. (It is credited to an Andrew Kerr.) I was a General Contractor for many years and specialize in historic preservation.
While the ballroom is said to be 90,000 square feet, no architectural plans have yet been shown to the public, only visual renderings. That said, with a $300 million price tag it can’t possibly cost $3,333 per square foot. That is unheard of. The average price per square foot for a D.C. home is $493/psf and while I agree with Kerr that the most premium, fully finished construction cost is $800-1,000 per square foot, this price is based on ABOVE ground construction. If Trump is, indeed, planning a massive well fortified underground bunker, subterranean construction is often double the cost of typical construction.
This is due to excavation costs, the steel reinforcement required, waterproofing, blast valve ventilation systems, elaborate water, plumbing, heating and air flow needs. Throw in a couple “Panic Room” doors, a few extra million for oppulent fixtures, and you’ve got yourself a pretty nifty billionaire bomb shelter! If the footprint of this bunker is the same as the main level, that could easily cost $1800-$2000 per square foot and be responsible for $180 million of the construction cost. There will need to be ample space for underground food storage to provide for many oligarchs and their families, would be my guess. One can likely assume the elaborate bunker plan is responsible for over half of the costs if not 70% of it. This also may account for the fact that it was originally said to hold 650 people and now we are told up to 999! For a banquet or ballroom plan, the general rule is to allow for 20 square feet per person. In this plan, there is over 90 square feet per person—so why an extra 50,000 square feet?
To me, the most surreal part of this project to date is that the renderings provided reflect a 20’ tall ceiling height and no upper floor, mezzanine or balcony plan. The White House is 70’ tall. If you’ve seen the renderings online, you know this makes no sense. Why do the renderings show a tall building that dwarfs the White House if the ceiling is 20’ tall? And the rendering interior shown is based on a size of about 100 x 200 feet. So these are either the sloppiest plans for renderings ever or what it ACTUALLY indicates is that the billionaire bunker may be on TWO full levels beneath the ballroom—not just one. As noted in earlier posts, the property is heavily guarded and no photos or filming is allowed during the construction.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say my guess is that Trump is building a two level underground lair designed for many families with provisions for long-term use. The other explanation, which has been offered, is that he hired a shoddy architect who rushed the dubious renderings. The only LOGICAL conclusion based on the numbers provided, including the interior floor plan and wall height, is that there will be a standard height building of no more than 30-35’ in height and two stories are being built below ground. In a few years, we will know—simply based on the “as builts,” that is, the actual height of the new building once constructed. The construction timeline on project of this nature is 3.5 years minimum. Why would Trump build a “ballroom” and expanded bomb shelter (the one previously installed
below the East Wing by Truman) that he will not be, in theory, in office to enjoy the benefit of? Unless, of course, he is planning on staying in 2028. Notably, Hitler hired crews to work around the clock on the ballroom that was built to conceal Füherbunker in Berlin, the place of his final refuge at the end of WWII. Let’s not forget Trump’s cryptic remarks to Zelensky—that if a country is at war, there will be no election.
The lead architect on the building design, James McCrery, is known for his grand scale churches, his Texas-sized Cathedrals that are mostly located in the Southern part of the U.S. McCreary is a boastfully religious man who commonly relates the spaces he creates as invitation to “God Almighty.” He is bow-tied and has been described in the media by fellow architects as a “wingnut.” McCreary was, remarkably, an understudy and employed in New York by the legendary Peter Eisenman who calls the ballroom design “bonkers.” It is customary for a project of this significance to be held out for a long and careful national RFP. Regardless of Trump’s pledge that tax payers will not cover the astronomical cost of the construction—which is one way he can justify being so secretive with his plans—the LAND the “ballroom” sits upon is STILL owned by We The People and has been since the late 1700’s. Other famed architects who have weighed in on this matter were not as kind about the addition as Eisenman. Christoper Hawthorne told the Daily Kos, that the ballroom design is “not so much a bloated classicism or an effort to turn Washington into Mar-a-Lago north, although it is both of those things, as a blueprint for making concrete the notion that the White House has turned in some fundamental sense into a retail outlet, a place where access and influence are nakedly bought and sold.”
This astute observation begs the question of how much one needs to “donate” to the Grifter-in-Chief to be offered luxury accommodations in his apocalyptic billionaire underworld clubhouse.
To me, as the scale and magnitude of this project becomes more evident, Trump’s construction plans become increasingly eerie as they speak to what we DO NOT see—may never see—what will remain above ground? In other words, how does this design inform his plans for the rest of us?
A recent $20 Billion dollar donation made to bailout Argentina may imply Trump’s other survival option, should his coup not succeed in the next 3-4 years—to simply flee South. Unlike most countries, it is at the discretion of Argentina’s government whether to extradite criminals who have committed “political offenses” while in office. Given his options for escape, for our sake, I hope he chooses the latter.
Curiously, neither Google or AI can offer an average price per square foot or a value for The Light of Day…
The reckless demolition of the White House is just more proof that Trump takes joy in the destruction of our nation and dismantling the long-established framework of our founding fathers. Regardless of the cost or quality of the walls that will soon hold him, the President will become a prisoner of his own greed.
A post by an architect about the White House “Ballroom” has been making the rounds and while very informative, I feel like it’s missing some important construction details that may help tell the full story. (It is credited to an Andrew Kerr.) I was a General Contractor for many years and specialize in historic preservation.
While the ballroom is said to be 90,000 square feet, no architectural plans have yet been shown to the public, only visual renderings. That said, with a $300 million price tag it can’t possibly cost $3,333 per square foot. That is unheard of. The average price per square foot for a D.C. home is $493/psf and while I agree with Kerr that the most premium, fully finished construction cost is $800-1,000 per square foot, this price is based on ABOVE ground construction. If Trump is, indeed, planning a massive well fortified underground bunker, subterranean construction is often double the cost of typical construction.
This is due to excavation costs, the steel reinforcement required, waterproofing, blast valve ventilation systems, elaborate water, plumbing, heating and air flow needs. Throw in a couple “Panic Room” doors, a few extra million for oppulent fixtures, and you’ve got yourself a pretty nifty billionaire bomb shelter! If the footprint of this bunker is the same as the main level, that could easily cost $1800-$2000 per square foot and be responsible for $180 million of the construction cost. There will need to be ample space for underground food storage to provide for many oligarchs and their families, would be my guess. One can likely assume the elaborate bunker plan is responsible for over half of the costs if not 70% of it. This also may account for the fact that it was originally said to hold 650 people and now we are told up to 999! For a banquet or ballroom plan, the general rule is to allow for 20 square feet per person. In this plan, there is over 90 square feet per person—so why an extra 50,000 square feet?
To me, the most surreal part of this project to date is that the renderings provided reflect a 20’ tall ceiling height and no upper floor, mezzanine or balcony plan. The White House is 70’ tall. If you’ve seen the renderings online, you know this makes no sense. Why do the renderings show a tall building that dwarfs the White House if the ceiling is 20’ tall? And the rendering interior shown is based on a size of about 100 x 200 feet. So these are either the sloppiest plans for renderings ever or what it ACTUALLY indicates is that the billionaire bunker may be on TWO full levels beneath the ballroom—not just one. As noted in earlier posts, the property is heavily guarded and no photos or filming is allowed during the construction.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say my guess is that Trump is building a two level underground lair designed for many families with provisions for long-term use. The other explanation, which has been offered, is that he hired a shoddy architect who rushed the dubious renderings. The only LOGICAL conclusion based on the numbers provided, including the interior floor plan and wall height, is that there will be a standard height building of no more than 30-35’ in height and two stories are being built below ground. In a few years, we will know—simply based on the “as builts,” that is, the actual height of the new building once constructed. The construction timeline on project of this nature is 3.5 years minimum. Why would Trump build a “ballroom” and expanded bomb shelter (the one previously installed
below the East Wing by Truman) that he will not be, in theory, in office to enjoy the benefit of? Unless, of course, he is planning on staying in 2028. Notably, Hitler hired crews to work around the clock on the ballroom that was built to conceal Füherbunker in Berlin, the place of his final refuge at the end of WWII. Let’s not forget Trump’s cryptic remarks to Zelensky—that if a country is at war, there will be no election.
The lead architect on the building design, James McCrery, is known for his grand scale churches, his Texas-sized Cathedrals that are mostly located in the Southern part of the U.S. McCreary is a boastfully religious man who commonly relates the spaces he creates as invitation to “God Almighty.” He is bow-tied and has been described in the media by fellow architects as a “wingnut.” McCreary was, remarkably, an understudy and employed in New York by the legendary Peter Eisenman who calls the ballroom design “bonkers.” It is customary for a project of this significance to be held out for a long and careful national RFP. Regardless of Trump’s pledge that tax payers will not cover the astronomical cost of the construction—which is one way he can justify being so secretive with his plans—the LAND the “ballroom” sits upon is STILL owned by We The People and has been since the late 1700’s. Other famed architects who have weighed in on this matter were not as kind about the addition as Eisenman. Christoper Hawthorne told the Daily Kos, that the ballroom design is “not so much a bloated classicism or an effort to turn Washington into Mar-a-Lago north, although it is both of those things, as a blueprint for making concrete the notion that the White House has turned in some fundamental sense into a retail outlet, a place where access and influence are nakedly bought and sold.”
This astute observation begs the question of how much one needs to “donate” to the Grifter-in-Chief to be offered luxury accommodations in his apocalyptic billionaire underworld clubhouse.
To me, as the scale and magnitude of this project becomes more evident, Trump’s construction plans become increasingly eerie as they speak to what we DO NOT see—may never see—what will remain above ground? In other words, how does this design inform his plans for the rest of us?
A recent $20 Billion dollar donation made to bailout Argentina may imply Trump’s other survival option, should his coup not succeed in the next 3-4 years—to simply flee South. Unlike most countries, it is at the discretion of Argentina’s government whether to extradite criminals who have committed “political offenses” while in office. Given his options for escape, for our sake, I hope he chooses the latter.
Curiously, neither Google or AI can offer an average price per square foot or a value for The Light of Day…
The reckless demolition of the White House is just more proof that Trump takes joy in the destruction of our nation and dismantling the long-established framework of our founding fathers. Regardless of the cost or quality of the walls that will soon hold him, the President will become a prisoner of his own greed.
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Oh Jack, I am so sorry, but I have to tell you that what I said is correct.
But you are still my buddy!!!!!
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I worry about you, dear. You've always been a Crazy Bitch, but since the advent of Trump you've truly gone off the rails. Such seething hatred cannot be very healthy. As much as I dislike Leftist Scum political leaders, I've never wished them dead.
You need to start taking massive doses of to calm your bony old ass down.
You are an utter moron. I DID NOT wish trump dead. I said he won't live another three and a half years. For your information, pal, my stating a simple fact has nothing to do with me wishng anything on anyone. Though I do wish you could acquire quite a few iQ points.
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You're asking the impossible.
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