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(When) Will Elon Musk become a liability for the Trump Administration?
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Lily
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Actually the US Marshalls do make an oath to the Constitution, but they are in the DOJ, which is under the control of the Executive branch.
Trump won't be stopped by the government agencies he controls. This is on the American people. Right now, he's at 53% approval. There is a long row to hoe.
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The one thing that may slow Trump/Musk down is an economic downturn or possibly a crisis. It could be their Achilles heelMaybe this will wake up the redneck MAGA morons…..when their welfare checks can’t cover basic necessities and welfare ends up on the elite chopping block…..
I‘m assuming any educated idiot who voted for tRump is beginning to regret it now, if not they will, unless of course they are members of the 1%
Yeah is ok if them wetbacks n darkies get slammed but once it starts to hurt Middle America in the pocketbook MAGA’s enthusiasm for Trump may begin to sour.
Ie - a drop in their fortunes, 401k plans, home values. And as you point out a rollback in he benefits of the poorer maga supporters
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Musk has already been stopped. He or his bros step one foot in the Treasury while trumps EO is being litigated and he'll be arrested. That list of FBI names they were going to release? On hold, as well as 32 of his other foolish EO's.
I said a while back I hoped they jammed so many lawsuits up his ass he'd just have to spend all his time fighting them instead of implementing his agenda. Well, that's what's happening as we speak...hence all the Sunday news show "chatter" about him "ignoring" court rulings.
I sincerely hope he does. He'll discover up close and personal it ain't an official act until it's been implemented.
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I have never seen such a sack of sorry fuckwits hoping their own country will fail.
Good thing you are all powerless to stop what is coming.
Good thing you are all powerless to stop what is coming.
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Ok Mr Canadian know-it-all.
God, you are SO DUMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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USA's only hope is that Trump's Administration drains the swamp.
And these fuckwits moan and whine about each and every cost-saving measures that they take.
And these fuckwits moan and whine about each and every cost-saving measures that they take.
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The lack of knowledge of their own government among the Americans here is astounding.
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The amount of bullshit spewed by ignorant Canucks about the US is what's really "astounding".
Plus your money is worthless.
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I was just in the USA for 9 days.
It seemed like my money could buy anything American money could buy.
You do not get out much, do you?
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as long as you had an extra 35 canadian for every hundred canadian you spent, sure. The exchange rate is even higher if you convert your worthless money to our standard.
Fucking dumbass.
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Why is your cognitive dissonance so deafening?
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"As long as you had enough money which you obviously had!"
Hahahahaha!!!!
Hahahahaha!!!!
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I've been thinking I might buy $10,000 worth of US$ and/or $10,000 worth of Gold soon.
Somehow I think the Canadian dollar is headed lower in the coming months.
Mind you so are many other currencies
The euro might be at par with us$ soon
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Go back to bed, @The Prowler .
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Stfu you clown, watching a couple billionaires tear apart the government is not even in the same country as hoping America falls, get your head out of your ass.
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From Bernie Sanders-
I do not often find myself in the habit of thanking Elon Musk, but he has done an exceptional job of demonstrating a point that we have made for years — and that is the fact we live in an oligarchic society in which billionaires dominate not only our politics and the information we consume, but our government and economic lives as well.
That has never been more clear than it is today.
But given the news and attention Mr. Musk has been getting over the last few weeks as he illegally and unconstitutionally dismantles government agencies, I thought it was an appropriate time to ask the question that the media and most politicians don't seem to be asking: What do he and other multi-billionaires really want? What is their endgame?
In my opinion, what Musk and those around him are aggressively striving for is not novel, it is not complicated and it is not new. It is what ruling classes throughout history have always wanted and have believed is theirs by right: more power, more control, more wealth. And they don’t want ordinary people and democracy getting in their way.
Elon Musk and his fellow oligarchs believe government and laws are simply an impediment to their interests and what they are entitled to.
In pre-revolutionary America, the ruling class governed through the “divine right of kings,” the belief that the King of England was an agent of God, not to be questioned. In modern times, the oligarchs believe that as the masters of technology and as "high-IQ individuals,” it is their absolute right to rule. In other words, they are our modern-day kings.
And it is not just power. It’s incredible wealth. Today, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg have a combined worth of $903 billion, more than the bottom half of American society — 170 million people. Since Trump was elected, unbelievably, their wealth has soared. Elon Musk has become $138 billion richer, Zuckerberg has become $49 billion richer and Bezos has become $28 billion richer. Add it all up and the three wealthiest men in America have become $215 billion richer since Election Day.
Meanwhile, while the very rich become much richer, 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, 85 million are uninsured or under-insured, 25% of seniors are trying to survive on $15,000 or less, 800,000 are homeless and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.
Do you think the oligarchs give a damn about these people? Trust me, they don’t. Musk’s decision to dismember U.S. AID means that thousands of the poorest people around the world will go hungry or die of preventable diseases.
But it’s not just abroad. Here in the United States they’ll soon be going after the healthcare, nutrition, housing, and educational programs that protect the most vulnerable people in our country - so that Congress can provide huge tax breaks for them and their fellow billionaires. As modern-day kings, who believe they have the absolute right to rule, they will sacrifice, without hesitation, the well-being of working people to protect their privilege.
Further, they will use the enormous media operations they own to deflect attention away from the impact of their policies while they “entertain us to death.” They will lie, lie and lie. They will continue to spend huge amounts of money to buy politicians in both major political parties.
They are waging a war on the working class of this country, and it is a war they are intent on winning.
I am not going to kid you — the problems this country faces right now are serious and they are not easy to solve. The economy is rigged, our campaign finance system is corrupt and we are struggling to control climate change — among other issues.
But this is what I do know:
The worst fear of the ruling class in this country is that Americans — Black, White, Latino, urban and rural, gay and straight — come together to demand a government that represents all of us, not just the wealthy few.
Their nightmare is that we will not allow ourselves to be divided up by race, religion, sexual orientation or country of origin and will, together, have the courage to take them on.
Will it be easy? Of course not.
The ruling class of this country will constantly remind you that they have all the power. They control the government, they own the media. “You want to take us on? Good luck,” they will say. “There's nothing you can do about it.”
But our job today is to not forget the great struggles and sacrifices that millions of people have waged over the centuries to create a more democratic, just and humane society:
* Overthrowing the King of England to create a new nation and self-rule. Impossible.
* Establishing universal suffrage. Impossible.
* Ending slavery and segregation. Impossible.
* Granting workers the right to form unions and ending child labor. Impossible.
* Giving women control over their own bodies. Impossible.
* Passing legislation to establish Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, a minimum wage, clean air and water standards. Impossible.
In these difficult times despair is not an option. We’ve got to fight back in every way we can.
We have to get involved in the political process — run for office, connect with our local, state and federal legislators, donate to candidates who will fight for the working class of this country. We have to create new channels for communication and information sharing. We have to volunteer not just politically, but to build community locally.
Whatever we can do is what we must do.
Needless to say, I intend to do my part — both inside the beltway and traveling throughout the country — to stand up for the working class of this country. In the days, weeks, and months ahead I hope you will join me in that struggle.
In solidarity,
Bernie Sanders
Before you go...
Over the coming weeks, Bernie is going to be engaging in the struggle to determine where we go from here. That will take a modest amount of resources to potentially travel, organize, hold events, and create content that reaches people where they are.
I do not often find myself in the habit of thanking Elon Musk, but he has done an exceptional job of demonstrating a point that we have made for years — and that is the fact we live in an oligarchic society in which billionaires dominate not only our politics and the information we consume, but our government and economic lives as well.
That has never been more clear than it is today.
But given the news and attention Mr. Musk has been getting over the last few weeks as he illegally and unconstitutionally dismantles government agencies, I thought it was an appropriate time to ask the question that the media and most politicians don't seem to be asking: What do he and other multi-billionaires really want? What is their endgame?
In my opinion, what Musk and those around him are aggressively striving for is not novel, it is not complicated and it is not new. It is what ruling classes throughout history have always wanted and have believed is theirs by right: more power, more control, more wealth. And they don’t want ordinary people and democracy getting in their way.
Elon Musk and his fellow oligarchs believe government and laws are simply an impediment to their interests and what they are entitled to.
In pre-revolutionary America, the ruling class governed through the “divine right of kings,” the belief that the King of England was an agent of God, not to be questioned. In modern times, the oligarchs believe that as the masters of technology and as "high-IQ individuals,” it is their absolute right to rule. In other words, they are our modern-day kings.
And it is not just power. It’s incredible wealth. Today, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg have a combined worth of $903 billion, more than the bottom half of American society — 170 million people. Since Trump was elected, unbelievably, their wealth has soared. Elon Musk has become $138 billion richer, Zuckerberg has become $49 billion richer and Bezos has become $28 billion richer. Add it all up and the three wealthiest men in America have become $215 billion richer since Election Day.
Meanwhile, while the very rich become much richer, 60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, 85 million are uninsured or under-insured, 25% of seniors are trying to survive on $15,000 or less, 800,000 are homeless and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any major country on earth.
Do you think the oligarchs give a damn about these people? Trust me, they don’t. Musk’s decision to dismember U.S. AID means that thousands of the poorest people around the world will go hungry or die of preventable diseases.
But it’s not just abroad. Here in the United States they’ll soon be going after the healthcare, nutrition, housing, and educational programs that protect the most vulnerable people in our country - so that Congress can provide huge tax breaks for them and their fellow billionaires. As modern-day kings, who believe they have the absolute right to rule, they will sacrifice, without hesitation, the well-being of working people to protect their privilege.
Further, they will use the enormous media operations they own to deflect attention away from the impact of their policies while they “entertain us to death.” They will lie, lie and lie. They will continue to spend huge amounts of money to buy politicians in both major political parties.
They are waging a war on the working class of this country, and it is a war they are intent on winning.
I am not going to kid you — the problems this country faces right now are serious and they are not easy to solve. The economy is rigged, our campaign finance system is corrupt and we are struggling to control climate change — among other issues.
But this is what I do know:
The worst fear of the ruling class in this country is that Americans — Black, White, Latino, urban and rural, gay and straight — come together to demand a government that represents all of us, not just the wealthy few.
Their nightmare is that we will not allow ourselves to be divided up by race, religion, sexual orientation or country of origin and will, together, have the courage to take them on.
Will it be easy? Of course not.
The ruling class of this country will constantly remind you that they have all the power. They control the government, they own the media. “You want to take us on? Good luck,” they will say. “There's nothing you can do about it.”
But our job today is to not forget the great struggles and sacrifices that millions of people have waged over the centuries to create a more democratic, just and humane society:
* Overthrowing the King of England to create a new nation and self-rule. Impossible.
* Establishing universal suffrage. Impossible.
* Ending slavery and segregation. Impossible.
* Granting workers the right to form unions and ending child labor. Impossible.
* Giving women control over their own bodies. Impossible.
* Passing legislation to establish Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, a minimum wage, clean air and water standards. Impossible.
In these difficult times despair is not an option. We’ve got to fight back in every way we can.
We have to get involved in the political process — run for office, connect with our local, state and federal legislators, donate to candidates who will fight for the working class of this country. We have to create new channels for communication and information sharing. We have to volunteer not just politically, but to build community locally.
Whatever we can do is what we must do.
Needless to say, I intend to do my part — both inside the beltway and traveling throughout the country — to stand up for the working class of this country. In the days, weeks, and months ahead I hope you will join me in that struggle.
In solidarity,
Bernie Sanders
Before you go...
Over the coming weeks, Bernie is going to be engaging in the struggle to determine where we go from here. That will take a modest amount of resources to potentially travel, organize, hold events, and create content that reaches people where they are.
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I used to think Bernie Sanders was too old & radical for America but after seeing what Trump has been able to get away with I no longer think so.
If the USA is gonna go deeply into debt it may as well benefit 90%+ of the people instead a handful of Oligarchs. The current lot incl Trump are a bunch of crooks
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One of my favourites so far is....
Liberals on deportations: "Noooo!!!! Bring back my slave labour!!!!!!!"
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
Liberals on deportations: "Noooo!!!! Bring back my slave labour!!!!!!!"
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Is that a non sequitur or are you just happy to see us?
What happened with the jam session?
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We placed from 4pm until about 5:35pm. Got through about 20 songs. The female singer had an eye appointment to get to, so we stopped when we stopped.
Thank you for showing an interest.
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No tell the truth, you ripped one of your noxious farts and ambulances and a hazmat team had to be called.
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It made Chernobyl look like a walk in the park.
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Thousands of investors in Trump’s crypto scheme lost $2 billion in just weeks while the Trump Organization racked up $100 million in trading fees. Just so happens that the CFPB, which Trump is trying to kill, recently announced new regulations for the crypto industry.
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Trump's newest order directs the federal government to implement a "workforce optimization initiative" created by Musk's, which has been moving rapidly from one department to another to slash spending and gut programs.
"It's not optional to reduce federal expenses, it's essential," Musk, wearing a black MAGA hat and joined by his son, X, said in remarks standing next to Trump, who was seated behind the Resolute Desk. Musk called the federal bureaucracy an "unelected, fourth, unconstitutional branch of government" that must be held accountable.
the sheer irony of this part of the article is beyond preposterous - seriously tRump is being manipulated by this poser and he’s too stupid to realize it!
is there anyone in the GOP or America wondering WHO THE FUCK ELECTED MUSK???!!
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It's infuriating. Fucking dupes whining about Soros for years...what the fuck is different here?!
A lot.
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It’s a thousand times worse…..where are all the conspiracy theorists now that it’s actually happening?
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