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<blockquote data-quote="Joe" data-source="post: 323889" data-attributes="member: 9">However, they were considered Pagan....but did they become Knights?There's no historical record of them ever becoming Knights or nobleman.And weren't they considered pagan?So they would have had no social standing in Medieval Society.And if they wanted to become part of the Establishment back then, they would have had to renoounce their Roma ways and convert to Christianity.Plus there are no artistic representations of them in painting or sculpture in those roles, let alone being in a standing army.However, there are recorded instances of Blacks being in German, Portugues and Spanish armies.And they are recorded by historians and respresented visually in painting, manuscripts and sculpture.<img src="http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Art/Saint_maurice_2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />If in doubt, forensic studies&nbsp; &amp; X-Rayscould be conducted to measure the age, chemical content of these sculptures..That would verify that these artifacts are real.Anyways Gypsy or Roma who date back to Roman Times, were not considered ethnically Indian.And if there ancestors came from India, wouldn't be the same as today's Indians.The gypsies are several generations removed with a miexture of other races.They are not nore ever were considered purely 'Indian'.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Joe, post: 323889, member: 9"] However, they were considered Pagan. ...but did they become Knights? There's no historical record of them ever becoming Knights or nobleman. And weren't they considered pagan? So they would have had no social standing in Medieval Society. And if they wanted to become part of the Establishment back then, they would have had to renoounce their Roma ways and convert to Christianity. Plus there are no artistic representations of them in painting or sculpture in those roles, let alone being in a standing army. However, there are recorded instances of Blacks being in German, Portugues and Spanish armies. And they are recorded by historians and respresented visually in painting, manuscripts and sculpture. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Art/Saint_maurice_2.jpg[/IMG] If in doubt, forensic studies & X-Rayscould be conducted to measure the age, chemical content of these sculptures.. That would verify that these artifacts are real. Anyways Gypsy or Roma who date back to Roman Times, were not considered ethnically Indian. And if there ancestors came from India, wouldn't be the same as today's Indians. The gypsies are several generations removed with a miexture of other races. They are not nore ever were considered purely 'Indian'. [/QUOTE]

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