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Hi, I'm not Oak. I'm Lily, nice to meet you.

I'm buying it.


You're a socialist... you don't believe in earning and buying.

You fucking don't know what a socialist is, you clown. Try educating yourself. Socialists believe in business, twat.


Are you kidding???

Socialists believe in THEFT...

Socialists hate the free market and are all for REGULATIONS to STOP the free enterprise of free trading.

You are a piece of shit.

I hope you get murdered ASAP...

Canada is turning Socilalist if it hasn't already, Harry/Dinky.
Good job josephine.

Socialism works good in Canada....Lokmeer!
But maybe not so much in the States, eh?
We're not 340 million people yet so maybe it kin last a while.

I think if a country becomes too large like the United States, socialism would probably have a difficult time working.

You folk oughta consider a 2 state federation. 1 Blue section, 1 Red section.

Split the USA along the lines of a Roman Empire which ended up with an Eastern Half and a Western one, eh?

Then ya could move to a red. state, Lokmeer.

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If people in the Blue states don't want to abide by the Constitution and BOR's, they can fuck right off to Canada or Mexico. Secession only has legitimacy in instances where a State's rights are being violated...NOT when they're intentionally negating the founding documents and creating communist shit holes.
 

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Hi, I'm not Oak. I'm Lily, nice to meet you.

I'm buying it.


You're a socialist... you don't believe in earning and buying.

You fucking don't know what a socialist is, you clown. Try educating yourself. Socialists believe in business, twat.


Are you kidding???

Socialists believe in THEFT...

Socialists hate the free market and are all for REGULATIONS to STOP the free enterprise of free trading.

You are a piece of shit.

I hope you get murdered ASAP...

Canada is turning Socilalist if it hasn't already, Harry/Dinky.
Good job josephine.

Socialism works good in Canada....Lokmeer!
But maybe not so much in the States, eh?
We're not 340 million people yet so maybe it kin last a while.

I think if a country becomes too large like the United States, socialism would probably have a difficult time working.

You folk oughta consider a 2 state federation. 1 Blue section, 1 Red section.

Split the USA along the lines of a Roman Empire which ended up with an Eastern Half and a Western one, eh?

Then ya could move to a red. state, Lokmeer.

11818.png


270-needed-to-win-a-close-look-at-the-election-map-in-prez-within-map-of-red-states-and-blue-states-2016.jpg

If people in the Blue states don't want to abide by the Constitution and BOR's, they can fuck right off to Canada or Mexico. Secession only has legitimacy in instances where a State's rights are being violated...NOT when they're intentionally negating the founding documents and creating communist shit holes.

Doesn't necessarily mean secession, Harry.

A lot of countries have this '2 State solution'.

They remain 1 united country but various secions/areas are autonomous, make their own laws, etc.

I think a number of states in Europe are alike that.

Canada is. Quebec makes many of its own laws, even has its own immigration system.

But Americans bein who they are, might be hard to make it work, eh?

They fight too much with each other.
 
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Hi, I'm not Oak. I'm Lily, nice to meet you.

I'm buying it.


You're a socialist... you don't believe in earning and buying.

You fucking don't know what a socialist is, you clown. Try educating yourself. Socialists believe in business, twat.


Are you kidding???

Socialists believe in THEFT...

Socialists hate the free market and are all for REGULATIONS to STOP the free enterprise of free trading.

You are a piece of shit.

I hope you get murdered ASAP...

Canada is turning Socilalist if it hasn't already, Harry/Dinky.
Good job josephine.

Socialism works good in Canada....Lokmeer!
But maybe not so much in the States, eh?
We're not 340 million people yet so maybe it kin last a while.

I think if a country becomes too large like the United States, socialism would probably have a difficult time working.

You folk oughta consider a 2 state federation. 1 Blue section, 1 Red section.

Split the USA along the lines of a Roman Empire which ended up with an Eastern Half and a Western one, eh?

Then ya could move to a red. state, Lokmeer.

11818.png


270-needed-to-win-a-close-look-at-the-election-map-in-prez-within-map-of-red-states-and-blue-states-2016.jpg

If people in the Blue states don't want to abide by the Constitution and BOR's, they can fuck right off to Canada or Mexico. Secession only has legitimacy in instances where a State's rights are being violated...NOT when they're intentionally negating the founding documents and creating communist shit holes.

Doesn't necessarily mean secession, Harry.

A lot of countries have this '2 State solution'.

They remain 1 united country but various secions/areas are autonomous, make their own laws, etc.

I think a number of states in Europe are alike that.

Canada is. Quebec makes many of its own laws, even has its own immigration system.

But Americans bein who they are, might be hard to make it work, eh?

They fight too much with each other.


If a state signs up to federalist system and votes for it, maybe 200-300 years before, and then wants out of it later, bring a reason...

Communism is not a negating argument. Those states were formed and upheld at the other side of communistic themes...

If you don't like the free market, go other fucking elsewhere... don't try to change the land....

Get fucking lost before somebody kills you,and rightfully so...
 

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You participate in Socialism every day. Read my post again

Again, you show that you don't have the slightest clue what socialism is because Social Democracy is not socialism. Socialism specifically has to do with government ownership of the means of production. No, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are not socialist. They are market based economy is with a strong social safety net. Just ask them and they will tell you.

Stop being ignorant.
 

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You participate in Socialism every day. Read my post again

Again, you show that you don't have the slightest clue what socialism is because Social Democracy is not socialism. Socialism specifically has to do with government ownership of the means of production. No, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are not socialist. They are market based economy is with a strong social safety net. Just ask them and they will tell you.

Stop being ignorant.

Im talking about the US. Yes a strong social net. Do you pay into Social Security? Do you plan to use it some day? Do you use a bank that is back up by the federal governmen? Do you belong to a trade organization
 

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None of those things are socialism. Reread what I wrote and may e take a polisci 101 class. Pay close attention to the part about ownership of means of production.

Clueless and ignorant people try to redefine things because they don't even know what terms mean. You are doing that right now.
 

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None of those things are socialism. Reread what I wrote and may e take a polisci 101 class. Pay close attention to the part about ownership of means of production.

Clueless and ignorant people try to redefine things because they don't even know what terms mean. You are doing that right now.

Thanks for that, but you never answered the questions.
 

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Yes, I did. I pointed out how none of that is socialism. I have explained that fact multiple times and then gave you some sources which break that down. It seems obvious you didn't read my posts nor watch the videos or else you'd already know this.
 

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You participate in Socialism every day. Read my post again

Again, you show that you don't have the slightest clue what socialism is because Social Democracy is not socialism. Socialism specifically has to do with government ownership of the means of production. No, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are not socialist. They are market based economy is with a strong social safety net. Just ask them and they will tell you.

Stop being ignorant.

I think even social democracy would have a hard time flourishing in the USA.

USA is too large, like some SuperState.

Social Democracy works well in smaller countries with small populations.

If certain states want it, but others don't, perhaps the US should move towards a loose federation model.
Kinda like the EU.

A US citizen could live in a state with a social democratic states, but of course the taxes would be much higher, which the individual state would have to foot most of the bill and the taxpayer would pay the corresponding tax rate.

But if they wanted a low tax region like Texas, they could live there, but of course the result would be fewer social services.
 
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You participate in Socialism every day. Read my post again

Again, you show that you don't have the slightest clue what socialism is because Social Democracy is not socialism. Socialism specifically has to do with government ownership of the means of production. No, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are not socialist. They are market based economy is with a strong social safety net. Just ask them and they will tell you.

Stop being ignorant.

I think even social democracy would have a hard time flourishing in the USA.

USA is too large, like some SuperState.

Social Democracy works well in smaller countries with small populations.

If certain states want it, but others don't, perhaps the US should move towards a loose federation model.
Kinda like the EU.

A US citizen could live in a state with a social democratic states, but of course the taxes would be much higher, which the individual state would have to foot most of the bill and the taxpayer would pay the corresponding tax rate.

But if they wanted a low tax region like Texas, they could live there, but of course the result would be fewer social services.

Shut up Joe...

I spent two years working for an Amish entrepreneur in my early years. They had voluntary contracts for their community that were socialistic but they operated on the free market in business.

They wanted no social services and little taxes...they took care of their own, but again, it had to be voluntary...and contracts were binding. You agree to something, you're on the hook.

That was their way.

Alternately, the harder you worked, the more they paid you. I was getting 23-28 bucks an hour in the very early 90's when the minimum wage was just shy of 6 bucks per hour USD..

THEY NEVER SHAMED ME for going full tong. In fact, they respected me and let me write my own checks/piecework figures...
 

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None of those things are socialism. Reread what I wrote and may e take a polisci 101 class. Pay close attention to the part about ownership of means of production.

Clueless and ignorant people try to redefine things because they don't even know what terms mean. You are doing that right now.

Everyone's and I mean EVERYONE lives and thrives under a couple of centuries of Socialist moves. You don't even know what Socialism is, obviously. Less than 200 years ago in Europe only men 35+ yrs old and owned land could vote. Each move after that was considered a SOCIALIST move.
 
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None of those things are socialism. Reread what I wrote and may e take a polisci 101 class. Pay close attention to the part about ownership of means of production.

Clueless and ignorant people try to redefine things because they don't even know what terms mean. You are doing that right now.

Everyone's and I mean EVERYONE lives and thrives under a couple of centuries of Socialist moves. You don't even know what Socialism is, obviously. Less than 200 years ago in Europe only men 35+ yrs old and owned land could vote. Each move after that was considered a SOCIALIST move.

And that was bullshit...

Why add incrementally bullshit on bullshit, then say "you were raised on bullshit! Love that bullshit"?
 

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Every move... like educating poor children, giving men who didn't own land the vote, women the vote, shortening workers hours to 8 hours a day and so on came from the socialism side of politics.... that is the fucking facts.
 
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Every move... like educating poor children, giving men who didn't own land the vote, women the vote, shortening workers hours to 8 hours a day and so on came from the socialism side of politics.... that is the fucking facts.

And every legislated move to indoctrinate our kids beyond the 3 R's, fine the non-voter, gut a handshake agreement, and make us wage slaves did exactly what?

Australia is fucked now because of socialism... most of the West in fact...
 

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Every move... like educating poor children, giving men who didn't own land the vote, women the vote, shortening workers hours to 8 hours a day and so on came from the socialism side of politics.... that is the fucking facts.

And every legislated move to indoctrinate our kids beyond the 3 R's, fine the non-voter, gut a handshake agreement, and make us wage slaves did exactly what?

Australia is fucked now because of socialism... most of the West in fact...

1. Don't let anyone inculcate your children and 2. we're fucked because we want to save the world from constant wars to frequent natural disasters and THAT costs big, big bucks... and you and Kurt's taxes pay for that... it has fuck all to do with "socialism." It is probably more to do with Christianity.
 
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Every move... like educating poor children, giving men who didn't own land the vote, women the vote, shortening workers hours to 8 hours a day and so on came from the socialism side of politics.... that is the fucking facts.

And every legislated move to indoctrinate our kids beyond the 3 R's, fine the non-voter, gut a handshake agreement, and make us wage slaves did exactly what?

Australia is fucked now because of socialism... most of the West in fact...

1. Don't let anyone inculcate your children and 2. we're fucked because we want to save the world from constant wars to frequent natural disasters and THAT costs big, big bucks... and you and Kurt's taxes pay for that... it has fuck all to do with "socialism." It is probably more to do with Christianity.

Nahh... it's socialism... freebies promised by politicians with our money which end up costing us more down the road...

Socialists are cocksuckers...
 

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Every move... like educating poor children, giving men who didn't own land the vote, women the vote, shortening workers hours to 8 hours a day and so on came from the socialism side of politics.... that is the fucking facts.

And every legislated move to indoctrinate our kids beyond the 3 R's, fine the non-voter, gut a handshake agreement, and make us wage slaves did exactly what?

Australia is fucked now because of socialism... most of the West in fact...

1. Don't let anyone inculcate your children and 2. we're fucked because we want to save the world from constant wars to frequent natural disasters and THAT costs big, big bucks... and you and Kurt's taxes pay for that... it has fuck all to do with "socialism." It is probably more to do with Christianity.

Nahh... it's socialism... freebies promised by politicians with our money which end up costing us more down the road...

Socialists are cocksuckers...

If they are cockroaches then corporate welfare recipients are rotten meat eating maggots.