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[Alticus]

A screenshot of BF's "confession" is posted on that same thread at TBC.

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I can see what you mean with this info but in this case BF had an expectation of privacy that was violated because it was a part of a private message. You're now trying to introduce this private info using it to say that his personal phone call was not private. If you tried to do that in any court in North America it would be thrown out.

 

[Alticus]

Also, there is editing software out there that can manipulate any text with precision. You argument is weak and stupid.

 

[wizer]

I can see what you mean with this info but in this case BF had an expectation of privacy that was violated because it was a part of a private message. You're now trying to introduce this private info using it to say that his personal phone call was not private. If you tried to do that in any court in North America it would be thrown out.

We're talking about PI here. PI is "personally identifying information". None of which applies to this topic of discussion.

Even worse you don't seem to think there was anything wrong with BF violating Biggie's privacy by using his own phone number to harass him at 7 in the morning and threaten him. In fact you go so far as to DEFEND his right to privacy as if he had the perfect right to make that phone call.

What is wrong with you?

 

[wizer]

Also, there is editing software out there that can manipulate any text with precision. You argument is weak and stupid.

What does text manipulation have to do with any of this?

I'm not arguing- I'm simply pointing out that your definition of PI is incorrect, and you're defending someone who is basically a stalker and invaded someone ELSE's privacy by leaving them a threatening phone message early in the morning using their phone number that was not provided by the recipient of the call.

 

[Alticus]

What does text manipulation have to do with any of this?

I'm not arguing- I'm simply pointing out that your definition of PI is incorrect, and you're defending someone who is basically a stalker and invaded someone ELSE's privacy by leaving them a threatening phone message early in the morning using their phone number that was not provided by the recipient of the call.

Biggie's contact info is publicly available. No expectation of privacy there. I don't care if it was Michael Jordan who called him it's not an invasion of privacy leaving a message. A threatening remark maybe, but not an invasion of privacy. If you have voice mail you are consenting to let others leave their remarks. As far as text editing goes, it has plenty to do with it. BF's words could have been edited and if I'm not mistaken it was Flynn who posted it? A lot of credibility there. You can't use private info to argue that BF's personal call wasn't expected to be private.

I'll say it again. You don't believe that a person's personal phone call and a message left on the recipient's voice mail should be considered private?

 

[Admin.]

What does text manipulation have to do with any of this?

I'm not arguing- I'm simply pointing out that your definition of PI is incorrect, and you're defending someone who is basically a stalker and invaded someone ELSE's privacy by leaving them a threatening phone message early in the morning using their phone number that was not provided by the recipient of the call.

Go snivel and deflect to the brain trust at TBC.

 

[wizer]

You don't believe that a person's personal phone call and a message left on the recipient's voice mail should be considered private?

No a threatening and unsolicited phone call is not considered to be private. Especially if the recipient has opted to share it on a public forum.

And your comment about Biggies contact info being available as if it somehow justifies the unwanted phone call is beyond idiotic.

 

[Alticus]

I'll tell you what Matlock. You talk with your client, I'll talk with mine and then we'll take it up with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery and see what they have to say.

 

[Admin.]

I'll tell you what Matlock. You talk with your client, I'll talk with mine and then we'll take it up with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery and see what they have to say.

Do not mess with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery!

 

[Lily]

I'll tell you what Matlock. You talk with your client, I'll talk with mine and then we'll take it up with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery and see what they have to say.

Do not mess with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery!

You two have no standing! Straight to the round file.

 

[Alticus]

Do not mess with the E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery!

Yeah, they run a pretty tight ship.

 

[X]

Biggie's contact info is publicly available. No expectation of privacy there. I don't care if it was Michael Jordan who called him it's not an invasion of privacy leaving a message. A threatening remark maybe, but not an invasion of privacy. If you have voice mail you are consenting to let others leave their remarks. As far as text editing goes, it has plenty to do with it. BF's words could have been edited and if I'm not mistaken it was Flynn who posted it? A lot of credibility there. You can't use private info to argue that BF's personal call wasn't expected to be private.

I'll say it again. You don't believe that a person's personal phone call and a message left on the recipient's voice mail should be considered private?

I hear personal phone calls while I’m standing in line at the market, you defend what jack is you defend this Yoire an odd one

 

[Alticus]

I hear personal phone calls while I’m standing in line at the market, you defend what jack is you defend this Yoire an odd one

That's in public X not at home.

Tell it to the judges on E-Supreme Court of Online Fuckery.

 

[wizer]

That's in public X not at home.

Calls to the victim from the stalker/perpetrator/suspect are posted all the time on crime shows such as Dateline and 48 Hours.

 

[Alticus]

Calls to the victim from the stalker/perpetrator/suspect are posted all the time on crime shows such as Dateline and 48 Hours.

Tell it to the judges.

 

[wizer]

I did a search in this. It was said best here:

By leaving a voicemail, you are impliedly consenting to being recorded. You have no control over what happens to that recording. It's property of a third party and you have no privacy interest in it. They don't need your consent to distribute the recording or to use it in a legal proceeding.

 

[Jack]

I did a search in this. It was said best here:

By leaving a voicemail, you are impliedly consenting to being recorded. You have no control over what happens to that recording. It's property of a third party and you have no privacy interest in it. They don't need your consent to distribute the recording or to use it in a legal proceeding.

Unless you live in a two party agreement state. Then you have to get the other party's agreement and permission to use it.

 

[wizer]

It's rather odd that @Alticus is defending BFs right to privacy when he called someone to harass and threaten them. A person who didn't even give his number to BF in the first place and clearly wanted nothing to do with him.

 

[wizer]

Unless you live in a two party agreement state. Then you have to get the other party's agreement and permission to use it.

I read that too. Not sure it applies to voicemails specifically. Seems to be more about recording conversations. But the state in which this occurred is in fact a 2 party state.

 

[Jack]

I read that too. Not sure it applies to voicemails specifically. Seems to be more about recording conversations. But the state in which this occurred is in fact a 2 party state.

It does.

 

[Admin.]

I read that too. Not sure it applies to voicemails specifically. Seems to be more about recording conversations. But the state in which this occurred is in fact a 2 party state.

Are you hoping to receive sexual favors from El Grande Piggly?

 

[X]

It's rather odd that @Alticus is defending BFs right to privacy when he called someone to harass and threaten them. A person who didn't even give his number to BF in the first place and clearly wanted nothing to do with him.

alticus is highly biased and it blinds his judgement you’ll have to forgive the bellied fellow

 

[Alticus]

alticus is highly biased and it blinds his judgement you’ll have to forgive the bellied fellow

Blow me X Lax

 

[wizer]

my Iinfo is out there too but fucked if I want strangers calling me

Especially at 7 o'clock in the morning threatening to "fuck you up".

 

[Admin.]

alticus is highly biased and it blinds his judgement you’ll have to forgive the bellied fellow

Where is Yowler taking you on your date night tonight? Will there be kitty food?

 

[Admin.]

Especially at 7 o'clock in the morning threatening to "fuck you up".

How long did it take you to talk Piggly down from that clear and present danger, while you held him in your loving arms?

 

[wizer]

In a strange twist of fate, BF files a civil suit against Biggie for posting a private voicemail that was of a threatening nature as well as being unwanted in the first place and was possible only because an unrelated 3rd party provided BF with Biggies phone number.

In turn Biggie files a criminal charges alleging stalking, harassment and threats on the part of BF and a counter civil suit alleging pain and suffering from the trauma induced by the unsolicited phone call.

Both cases are currently pending trial.

 

[Alticus]

In a strange twist of fate, BF files a civil suit against Biggie for posting a private voicemail that was of a threatening nature as well as being unwanted in the first place and was possible only because an unrelated 3rd party provided BF with Biggies phone number.

In turn Biggie files a criminal charges alleging stalking, harassment and threats on the part of BF and a counter civil suit alleging pain and suffering from the trauma induced by the unsolicited phone call.

Both cases are currently pending trial.

Let me know how it all turns out.

 

[wizer]

Let me know how it all turns out.

All charges dropped and they move on with their lives.

 

[Admin.]

In a strange twist of fate, BF files a civil suit against Biggie for posting a private voicemail that was of a threatening nature as well as being unwanted in the first place and was possible only because an unrelated 3rd party provided BF with Biggies phone number.

In turn Biggie files a criminal charges alleging stalking, harassment and threats on the part of BF and a counter civil suit alleging pain and suffering from the trauma induced by the unsolicited phone call.

Both cases are currently pending trial.

Cool story Pigglyphile.