Ukraine is fucked

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Zelensky is flailing trying to fix his fuck up. He wants "security promises" and more weaponry to continue the war. Trump wants a cease fire and peace.

Why do you think we Americans should finance a forever war in Ukraine?
^^TDS hitting levels never seen before.


Speaking of negotiational art, trust me on this, I never once sold a car with belligerent attacks on my customer, let alone by kicking them off my lot.


^Thats a metaphor.
 

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I was really impressed with Mr. Vance here. He just might be the bridge we need to Barron I's Pax Americana.
 
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The whole world is turning against Trump, you morons think that’s a trophy


No only your people. They'll find something wrong with anything Trump does, if it wasn't this incident they'd have to complain about it would be something else.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Zelenskyyy talking back to Trump was the biggest mistake of his life.
 

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No only your people. They'll find something wrong with anything Trump does, if it wasn't this incident they'd have to complain about it would be something else.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Zelenskyyy talking back to Trump was the biggest mistake of his life.
Now he'll learn that libs liking him on twitter doesn't come with any financial benefits...lol.
 

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No only your people. They'll find something wrong with anything Trump does, if it wasn't this incident they'd have to complain about it would be something else.

You don't bite the hand that feeds you. Zelenskyyy talking back to Trump was the biggest mistake of his life.
Trump could single-handedly cure cancer and these pricks would scream bloody fucking murder about how, "HE'S PUTTING ONCOLOGISTS OUT OF WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!"
 
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Trump could single-handedly cure cancer and these pricks would scream bloody fucking murder about how, "HE'S PUTTING ONCOLOGISTS OUT OF WORK WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!"
You can take politics out of this entire equation and boil it down to one thing. Effective communication.

When someone is doing you a big favor, and you're desperate for more favors, you don't pick a fight, you don't talk back, You don't shake your head when the other person is talking, you don't interrupt and speak over them, and you at least attempt to act respectfully even if you don't feel that way. Most important, take the time to know the best way to deal with the person who holds your life in their hands. Especially when that's your freaking JOB and you've got numerous resources at your fingertips to enable you to do exactly that.
 

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You can take politics out of this entire equation and boil it down to one thing. Effective communication.

When someone is doing you a big favor, and you're desperate for more favors, you don't pick a fight, you don't talk back, You don't shake your head when the other person is talking, you don't interrupt and speak over them, and you at least attempt to act respectfully even if you don't feel that way. Most important, take the time to know the best way to deal with the person who holds your life in their hands. Especially when that's your freaking JOB and you've got numerous resources at your fingertips to enable you to do exactly that.
This asshole Zelenskyyyy has been flying around the world for 3 years now getting his ass kissed by everyone and anyone because of "Putin bad". He forgot his place and TRUMP and Vance showed it to him.
 
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This asshole Zelenskyyyy has been flying around the world for 3 years now getting his ass kissed by everyone and anyone because of "Putin bad". He forgot his place and TRUMP and Vance showed it to him.
I'm not excusing it but I think his desperation is getting the better of him.

I sort of get it, his country is being demolished, millions of his people killed or displaced and continued funding is not certain.

But in his darkest hour, he lost the plot.
 
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Trump doesn't command respect. That's his entire problem.

Demanding respect is pitiful.
He doesn't have to demand anything. He got the votes and he's the leader of the free world.

You don't play up to him and his over inflated ego and act like you believe his lies, you're screwed.

This isn't news.
 

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This could be good...

USA bails on Ukraine.

Europe backs Ukraine with support costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

The war drags on for years.

Europe is broke.

Russia is broke.

USA is stronger than ever.
 
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This could be good...

USA bails on Ukraine.

Europe backs Ukraine with support costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

The war drags on for years.

Europe is broke.

Russia is broke.

USA is stronger than ever.
The war won't drag on for years. Both sides are having trouble replacing troops at the front lines.

Russia has gone so far as to send wounded soldiers back to the front lines to try to run away from attack drones and mortar fire while on crutches.

It can't go on indefinitely unless other countries put boots on the ground and that's not likely to happen.
 

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So what's neon-lit blazingly evident at this point is that not one of you bitching about Trump and Vance pimp-slapping that little con-artist Zelensky can give even one reason why the U.S. taxpayers should continue to pay the bill for Ukraine. Been, what, a couple pages now? Not a single answer, just deflection.
You call that a pimp slap.

Sorry, acting like children at an oval office meeting isn't my idea of leadership.
 

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It makes me want to wretch that such corrupt weasels are representing the American public. Putin's hand is obviously so far up their asses he's able to manipulate their mouths. I wish our leaders had 1/10 the fortitude and dedication to the people that Zelensky has, yesterday proved beyond a doubt that we are fucking fucked!​

It was like watching two bullies gang up on a school kid. Except worse because they're both grown men, and the school kid in question was the hero who's been holding back the entire might of Russia — and then some — from taking his country!​

My respect for Zelenskyy has quadrupled and my disgust at the display from immature, ignorant coward Trump who’s literally been handed everything in life and proved his cowardice by having daddy buy his way out of having to fight in Vietnam has risen off the charts!​

I sincerely hope this wakes people up enough to stand up to this cowardly bully 86 47! It’s time to GET HIM OUT of the White House along with Vance who is obviously so hungry for power that he will debase himself on national TV.​

People like Vance who demand respect are the ones who will never have it because they don't understand you have to earn it.​

 

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This could be good...

USA bails on Ukraine.

Europe backs Ukraine with support costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

The war drags on for years.

Europe is broke.

Russia is broke.

USA is stronger than ever.
Honestly, if you were any slower, you’d be going backward….Talk, talk, talk: the utter and heartbreaking stupidity of your words is mind boggling
 

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On the Other Side of Trump/Vance, what many people & nations are thinking...



Stand on the side of Ukraine, the Freed Democratic Alliance, NOT Russia.
 
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