Why is it the GOP that is keeping the impeachment discussion alive?

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Of course you people want to destroy America. Obama wanted to "fundamentally transform" America into a dystopian third world shithole and you all followed along for no other reason than he was half nigger.

Ridiculous.

I voted for Obama the first time because of the fuck up Dubya was. In 2012, I did not. His race has nothing to do with it.
 

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He's hardly a Marxist. One thing he has in common with Trump is that people projected onto him what they want to see rather than who he really is...
Yeah, there was probably a bit of that with Obama -- and a whole lot of that with Trump.

But, yes, he was and is an America-hating Marxist and Big Mike is a hate-filled racist negress.
 

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We'll have to disagree on their "Marxism". I don't see one single policy that they supported that is Marxist.

Can you name one?
All of them. Obamacare = Marxist. "Green Energy" and "shovel ready grifts" = Marxist redistribution schemes.

Whatever happened to those "shovel ready" infrastructure projects from the Obama years anyway? As I recall, a lot of money was appropriated but I haven't noticed our roads and bridges getting any upgrades.
 

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All of them. Obamacare = Marxist. "Green Energy" and "shovel ready grifts" = Marxist redistribution schemes.

Whatever happened to those "shovel ready" infrastructure projects from the Obama years anyway? As I recall, a lot of money was appropriated but I haven't noticed our roads and bridges getting any upgrades.

No, it's a social safety net, like most industrialized societies.

The hospitals and all the equipment in the facility along with the personnel do not work for the government. That is all private.

Green energy and other big government projects, just like the internet was, over time are beneficial to the American taxpayer. Now you may not approve. bBut that's the thing about living in this country, not one side decides all the policy in the country.

We became the most powerful country on the planet within this system. When will your side stop whining about progress?
 

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Just a reminder: In a democracy (which leftists claim to want to defend -- ironically, they want to defend it against democracy...) the people tell the government what their interests are; the government, on the one hand, represents and works to support and fulfil those interests and, on the other hand, stays the fuck out of the way.

It does not, however, do whatever the fuck it feels like and then proceed to justify its actions by telling the people what their interests 'ought to be'.

If you're defending that latter system, you are not defending democracy.
 

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No doubt we all benefited (somehow...) from Solyndra.

You think that the 452 million dollar bridge to nowhere in Alaska was a better plan?

How about the F35 that could be, maybe still is, sidelined by a little rain?

Government fucks up, but often just one investment, like the internet, makes up in trillions of dollars of business that more than covers those fuck ups.
 

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You think that the 452 million dollar bridge to nowhere in Alaska was a better plan?

How about the F35 that could be, maybe still is, sidelined by a little rain?

Government fucks up, but often just one investment, like the internet, makes up in trillions of dollars of business that more than covers those fuck ups.
The DARPAnet was government. Are you using the military DARPAnet right now?
 

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Yes, it was government.
The point is that government didn't commercialize it. The internet, as distinct from the ARPAnet, was developed and built by Ciena Corporation.

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Internet Transmission Control Program, December 1974) as a short form of internetworking, when the two terms were used interchangeably. In general, an internet was a collection of networks linked by a common protocol. In the time period when the ARPANET was connected to the newly formed
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project in the late 1980s, the term was used as the name of the network, Internet, being the large and global TCP/IP network.
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Opening the Internet and the fiber optic backbone to corporate and consumers increased demand for network capacity. The expense and delay of laying new fiber led providers to test a fiber bandwidth expansion alternative that had been pioneered in the late 1970s by
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using "interactions between light and matter, such as lasers and optical devices used for
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and wave mixing".
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While government sowed the seed, it didn't bloom until it went private.
 
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The point is that government didn't commercialize it. The internet, as distinct from the ARPAnet, was developed and built by Ciena Corporation.

Transition towards the Internet​

The term "internet" was reflected in the first RFC published on the TCP protocol (RFC 675:
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Internet Transmission Control Program, December 1974) as a short form of internetworking, when the two terms were used interchangeably. In general, an internet was a collection of networks linked by a common protocol. In the time period when the ARPANET was connected to the newly formed
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project in the late 1980s, the term was used as the name of the network, Internet, being the large and global TCP/IP network.
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Opening the Internet and the fiber optic backbone to corporate and consumers increased demand for network capacity. The expense and delay of laying new fiber led providers to test a fiber bandwidth expansion alternative that had been pioneered in the late 1970s by
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using "interactions between light and matter, such as lasers and optical devices used for
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and wave mixing".
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. Bell Labs deployed a 4-channel WDM system in 1995.
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To develop a mass capacity (dense) WDM system,
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While government sowed the seed, it didn't bloom until it went private.
Who came first, the chicken or the congressional budget allocation?
 

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Who came first, the chicken or the congressional budget allocation?
Did the government create the commercial Hummer H3?

Nope. The government catalyzed the development of the HMMWV. The commercially available Hummer is based on that design, but it's (pay attention, now!) not the same vehicle.

You are not using the ARPAnet to read this. It's not the same thing.
 

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Did the government create the commercial Hummer H3?

Nope. The government catalyzed the development of the HMMWV. The commercially available Hummer is based on that design, but it's (pay attention, now!) not the same vehicle.

You are not using the ARPAnet to read this. It's not the same thing.

The government funded the research that made the commercial versions possible. FFS!