Oh, so now it's illegal to be homeless?
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Not to worry, Trump is building for profit concentration camps all over the country for all the 600 gazillion “illegals “! I’m sure there’s plenty of room for the homeless, protesters, media people, teachers, professors, democrats, social democrats, labor unionists…dog lovers etc
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Ok, a proposal. For every illegal we have to keep in the country, we ship a homeless person to the country of origin of the illegal.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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HOW are you against THIS? Are you kidding me?
Let them rot on the streets right? Let them kill themselves, harm others and just fuck it.
Let them rot on the streets right? Let them kill themselves, harm others and just fuck it.
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Huh?
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How do you not understand my post?
Okay. Why is there is there a problem with getting homeless mentally ill people off the streets and in treatment?
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It also commits federal funding to move people on the streets who are "causing public disorder and that are suffering from serious mental illness or addiction" to "treatment centers, assisted outpatient treatment, or other facilities."
Who in their right mind would oppose this?
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Reagan did. He opposed that.
He's the one who closed a lot of facilities (deinstitutionalization) in the 1960s and 1970s which in large part led to the situation we have now.
So that's one of his fuckups that's finally being addressed... now let's do trickle-down!
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Well.....from what i understand there were a bunch of investigative reporters who went undercover and discovered cruel and inhumane treatment of people who were involuntarily placed in them.
So laws were passed to shut them down. Problem is nothing was left to fill that need.
So it was one extreme to the other.
At least now we have humane treatment facilities designed to get people the help they need.
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Guess you never heard about the outdoor benches with retractable spikes.. homeless are like pigeons
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Lily
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Though probabaly a big percentage of the homeless are mantally ill, another big chunk of them are not.
I agree that the mentally ill that need it should be institutionalized.
But the peoplenthat are simply poor, foster and runaway kids/young adults shouldn't be.
They need help to overcome their situations, social services.
I agree that the mentally ill that need it should be institutionalized.
But the peoplenthat are simply poor, foster and runaway kids/young adults shouldn't be.
They need help to overcome their situations, social services.
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Incorrect.
If a person ends up homeless and is NOT mentall ill or addicted to drugs, the average time they spend homeless is 3 months.
Here in my state we have a ton of resources to help people get back on thier feet. One of the bigger needs is we need more resources for MEN with children.
You have a lot of feral people in your state. Go talk to them. Youll see they chose to be there. Dont get suckered in either.
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Liberty1976
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I always support freedom over government. You really can't force medical treatment
on a person. But, you know, the COVID scamdemic fooled a lot of people into surrendering
their rights and allowed the government to forcefully inject them with an experiment under
duress and coercion?
We know how that turned out.
You see the can of worms that shit can open up when you give government to much power?
But anyway, back to the original topic.
As a person that lived in Brooklyn his whole life and has the seriousness of the homeless
population, I can tell you that almost all of them have a mental illness and some of them
are dangerous.
It kind of creates this grey area. You have to decide whose rights you are going to protect.
The mentally disturbed homeless guy who might push an innocent employed taxpayer onto
the train tracks, or the innocent employed taxpayer?
Then they have to come up with an enforcement procedure which is pretty difficult for anyone
with a decent understanding of law. You can't lawfully send out the police like stormtroopers
to start rounding up people for simply being homeless.
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Nice try, pal
But we all know you'd rather send the hobos AND the illegals back
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Yes
It was a better vanished time.
Yes, dear. There used to be a thing called "Vagrancy Laws" that allowed the authorities top round up all the hobos and put the in camps and mental institutions.
It was a better vanished time.
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Don't forget the hobos, Adminge.
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And this is why satire is dying a quick and painful death.Nice try, pal
But we all know you'd rather send the hobos AND the illegals back
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There you go again, it’s like you didn’t even read Lilys post, but just dove in headfirst with your gaslight.
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You keep yapping about hobos, are they in the room with you now?
Lily
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3 months (if that's even accurate) isn't a big deal, right?
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Yes, satire has high cholesterol and arthritis
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Don't be jealous because none of the hobos will come back to your trailer with you.
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Everyone should get to experience living under a tarp right next to a busy urban thoroughfare. It’s like glamping!
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And liver damage from alcohol.
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No, irony's the one that has cirrhosis
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There are a few things wrong with her post. I focused on ONE. She said a "big chunk" of the homeless are not mentally ill.
Then goes on to agree people on the streets suffering from mental illness should be given help
Then she goes on to list people who are poor, foster kids and runaways should not be impacted by this bill. Which none would be. This isnt about harrassing poor people. The bill is focused on getting people who live on the streets using drugs into the proper treatment.
I promise you there is no chunk of people on the streets who are not mentally ill.
I thought my point was obvious but i forgot who i was talking to.
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Let me take it deeper. These people im talking about who are homeless because of hard times and not substance abuse and mental illness are not physically ON the streets. They are in shelters and programs. So they are typically without a residence for an average period of 3 months.
These are not the people under tarps living in encampments.
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Its not a grey area at all. If people want to be a detriment to themselves - fair enough. As long as they are not psychotic.
But once they become a menace and are living out on the streets.....if they are going to be costing tax payers anyway, they can just get treatment. Get the help they need. Or go sit in jail.
They are not simply homeless. They are all drunk and high. If nothing is done thats even cruelity. Everyone suffers the way it is right now.
And dude some of them are throwing actual shit on people.
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