WTF is going on in Afghanistan?

[Oerdin]

Few remaining government forces are fleeing to Pakistan and Iran giving those countries all the American vehicles and equipment to hostile states.

 

[Joe]

And Bubbling Joe Biden completely fucks the goat as Taliban invades Kabul and the Afghan government falls. The Taliban have now taken the Presidential Palace as all the government officials simply packed up their stolen loot and flew away.

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It took three years for South Vietnam to fall after the US left but the incompetence and complete lack of planning by Joe Biden caused Afghanistan to fall in less than two months. What a cluster fuck of failure Biden and the Democrats are.

Perhaps it'll go down as one of the Great Falls in History, eh?

Rome:

Constantinople:

 

[Joe]

 

[Oerdin]

10,000 Americans, 60,000 Afghans, and an unknown number of other westerns numbering in the tens of thousands are stuck at the Kabul Airport. Biden is such an incompetent fuck. It seems Pentagon officials said this would happen but Biden officials ignored them all and lied to the American people that no evacuations of the embassy would be needed because the Afghan government wasn't going to fall.

Biden even lied and claimed the Taliban would be isolated after the US literally cut and ran in the middle of the night without eve. Informing the Afghans. The evil fuck is still not letting any Afghans on planes saying they need to go through the regular 6 months to 18 month long visa process.

 

[Omnipotent]

Once again America gets bored with an ill conceived Nation Building Project, and bails out again leaving behind 10's of thousands brown toned dupes that trusted us. (Just like Raygun did to Bin Laden in the 80's, in Afghanistan)

For reference watch the movie Soul Survivor.

Fuck Afghanistan... they've had 20 years of Global help mainly from America... money that could have fixed problems in our own countries.

 

[Joe]

10,000 Americans, 60,000 Afghans, and an unknown number of other westerns numbering in the tens of thousands are stuck at the Kabul Airport. Biden is such an incompetent fuck. It seems Pentagon officials said this would happen but Biden officials ignored them all and lied to the American people that no evacuations of the embassy would be needed because the Afghan government wasn't going to fall.

Biden even lied and claimed the Taliban would be isolated after the US literally cut and ran in the middle of the night without eve. Informing the Afghans. The evil fuck is still not letting any Afghans on planes saying they need to go through the regular 6 months to 18 month long visa process.

A bit of a PR Disaster.

Still...I wonder if a lot of Afghan armed personnel merely switched sides from the Government and joined the Taliban, which accelerated their takeover of Afghanistan.

So of course, if you're a soldier in the Afghan Army & the enemy is taking over, better ta be on the Winning Side when the roof caves in, eh?

I suppose it's akin to Confederate Soldiers who went over to the other side and joined the Union in the American Civil War when the South began to lose and the end was nigh.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

 

[LotusBud]

10,000 Americans, 60,000 Afghans, and an unknown number of other westerns numbering in the tens of thousands are stuck at the Kabul Airport. Biden is such an incompetent fuck. It seems Pentagon officials said this would happen but Biden officials ignored them all and lied to the American people that no evacuations of the embassy would be needed because the Afghan government wasn't going to fall.

Biden even lied and claimed the Taliban would be isolated after the US literally cut and ran in the middle of the night without eve. Informing the Afghans. The evil fuck is still not letting any Afghans on planes saying they need to go through the regular 6 months to 18 month long visa process.

A bit of a PR Disaster.

Still...I wonder if a lot of Afghan armed personnel merely switched sides from the Government and joined the Taliban, which accelerated their takeover of Afghanistan.

So of course, if you're a soldier in the Afghan Army & the enemy is taking over, better ta be on the Winning Side when the roof caves in, eh?

I suppose it's akin to Confederate Soldiers who went over to the other side and joined the Union in the American Civil War when the South began to lose and the end was nigh.

I'm sure a lot of that happened. It's what you do when you see no other way to survive.

 

[Joe]

10,000 Americans, 60,000 Afghans, and an unknown number of other westerns numbering in the tens of thousands are stuck at the Kabul Airport. Biden is such an incompetent fuck. It seems Pentagon officials said this would happen but Biden officials ignored them all and lied to the American people that no evacuations of the embassy would be needed because the Afghan government wasn't going to fall.

Biden even lied and claimed the Taliban would be isolated after the US literally cut and ran in the middle of the night without eve. Informing the Afghans. The evil fuck is still not letting any Afghans on planes saying they need to go through the regular 6 months to 18 month long visa process.

A bit of a PR Disaster.

Still...I wonder if a lot of Afghan armed personnel merely switched sides from the Government and joined the Taliban, which accelerated their takeover of Afghanistan.

So of course, if you're a soldier in the Afghan Army & the enemy is taking over, better ta be on the Winning Side when the roof caves in, eh?

I suppose it's akin to Confederate Soldiers who went over to the other side and joined the Union in the American Civil War when the South began to lose and the end was nigh.

I'm sure a lot of that happened. It's what you do when you see no other way to survive.

That part of the world is notorious for mixed allegiances and backstabbing behavior.

"The friend of my enemy is my enemy."?

 

[Lokmar]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

 

[Lily]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

At least not at this point in history. So are you going to blame Biden regardless of this admission? Silly me, of course you are.

 

[Joe]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

 

[Lokmar]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

At least not at this point in history. So are you going to blame Biden regardless of this admission? Silly me, of course you are.

Pipe down cunt. Of course Biden is to blame for the haphazard clusterfuck. He's the cheated in office commander in chief! He should have drawn down in an orderly fashion and IMO, told the taliban that we were staying at the embassy compound. Also, the taliban should have been told if one fucking bullet comes into our compound, we'd light em up, genocide style. Also, the BIGGEST single fuk up was allowing the president to leave Kabul. He should have been brought into the US Compound. Once the Afghan President flew the coop, it was a signal for everyone to give up to the taliban and give in to panic.

 

[Lily]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

At least not at this point in history. So are you going to blame Biden regardless of this admission? Silly me, of course you are.

Pipe down cunt. Of course Biden is to blame for the haphazard clusterfuck. He's the cheated in office commander in chief! He should have drawn down in an orderly fashion and IMO, told the taliban that we were staying at the embassy compound. Also, the taliban should have been told if one fucking bullet comes into our compound, we'd light em up, genocide style. Also, the BIGGEST single fuk up was allowing the president to leave Kabul. He should have been brought into the US Compound. Once the Afghan President flew the coop, it was a signal for everyone to give up to the taliban and give in to panic.

Of course you're contradicting yourself. This was always going to happen posting bitch.

 

[Lily]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

 

[Joe]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

 

[Lily]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

So did President Donald J Trump get rightfully reseated today?

Hmmm. Something went wrong there.

but but but admin been carrying that torch for like 3 whole months now

following pillow guy on twitter, mining the web for any reference to his whereabouts and what not

you're saying all that for nothing? a hoax?

lolz

 

[Oerdin]

It is certainly true that the more "diverse" a country becomes and the less cultural homogeneity it has the less national unity and cohesion it has. Sadly, the US is going down that route like a runaway train. No, diversity is never a strength. Just look what happened to all the multi-ethnic empires after WW1/2.

They just don't handle adversity well.

 

[Lily]

It is certainly true that the more "diverse" a country becomes and the less cultural homogeneity it has the less national unity and cohesion it has. Sadly, the US is going down that route like a runaway train. No, diversity is never a strength. Just look at happened to all the multi-ethnic empires after WW1/2.

They just don't handle adversity well.

They didn't decide to be "diverse", the British cobbled together a country without their consent. America has a voice in these policies, it's called "voting" and legislation, you returd.

 

[Joe]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

But now the Taliban has the targets on the Chinese and Chinese diplomats.






China kinda had it nice 'n cozy with America doing all the dirty work for them.

And of course China has a large Muslim population problem of its own and its own terrorist threat inside its own borders.

So the Taliban could inspire radical Islamacists in China too - the Uyghers.

And you're right...with the territory of becoming #1 also is the possibility of becoming the next target for the Taliban.

so China could end up sending its armies into Afghanistan.

 

[Lokmar]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

At least not at this point in history. So are you going to blame Biden regardless of this admission? Silly me, of course you are.

Pipe down cunt. Of course Biden is to blame for the haphazard clusterfuck. He's the cheated in office commander in chief! He should have drawn down in an orderly fashion and IMO, told the taliban that we were staying at the embassy compound. Also, the taliban should have been told if one fucking bullet comes into our compound, we'd light em up, genocide style. Also, the BIGGEST single fuk up was allowing the president to leave Kabul. He should have been brought into the US Compound. Once the Afghan President flew the coop, it was a signal for everyone to give up to the taliban and give in to panic.

Of course you're contradicting yourself. This was always going to happen posting bitch.

Wut? Make sense next time....IF you can that is.

 

[Omnipotent]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

But now the Taliban has the targets on the Chinese and Chinese diplomats.






China kinda had it nice 'n cozy with America doing all the dirty work for them.

And of course China has a large Muslim population problem of its own and its own terrorist threat inside its own borders.

So the Taliban could inspire radical Islamacists in China too - the Uyghers.

And you're right...with the territory of becoming #1 also is the possibility of becoming the next target for the Taliban.

so China could end up sending its armies into Afghanistan.

This isn't right. Afghanistan has mines the Chinese buy from. - Mining in Afghanistan
Afghanistan has vast mineral deposits, including coal, copper and iron ore, talc, lithium and uranium, as well as gold, precious stones, oil and gas. Since the fall of the Taliban in 2001, the sector has been seen as the potential backbone of a post-war economy—and still

The Chinese, Iranians, Pakistanis, Russians can help Afghans through their severe drought PLUS don't forget the poppy fields... the supply chain for opiates run through China.

You people are so ignorant about Afghanistan, it is gobsmacking..

Our media feeds you bullshit. None of this has anything to do with religion.

 

[Omnipotent]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

Too right but remember, MEN LOVE WAR AND KILLING AND RAPING, it is what they do. They're animals after all, although some are turnip and cabbage heads, basically vegetables.

One poster wrote to me once, Ramblon was his handle... A retired army guy who used to drive bombs around the USA for 20 years. He said men don't build bombs without the intention to not use them one day. They want to use them.

 

[Lily]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

Too right but remember, MEN LOVE WAR AND KILLING AND RAPING, it is what they do. They're animals after all, although some are turnip and cabbage heads, basically vegetables.

One poster wrote to me once, Ramblon was his handle... A retired army guy who used drive bombs around the USA for 20 years. He said men don't build bombs without the intention to not use them one day. They want to use them.

I don't doubt that for one minute. Same thing with their dicks. If they could get away with it, like in the Muslim world, they'd rape women to this day.

 

[Lokmar]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

Too right but remember, MEN LOVE WAR AND KILLING AND RAPING, it is what they do. They're animals after all, although some are turnip and cabbage heads, basically vegetables.

One poster wrote to me once, Ramblon was his handle... A retired army guy who used drive bombs around the USA for 20 years. He said men don't build bombs without the intention to not use them one day. They want to use them.

I don't doubt that for one minute. Same thing with their dicks. If they could get away with it, like in the Muslim world, they'd rape women to this day.

Biden got away with it.

 

[Omnipotent]

Yep. Don't waste sympathy. Those bastards in Afghanistan are richer than you think.

I believe the worst thing we can do is give aid, not to be unkind but time and time again, aid doesn't get to the struggling people but it goes to rogue armies that buy weapons.

IF nobody gave aid, they would have no choice but to farm and feed themselves or perish.

*And I'm not talking about the aid to natural catastrophes where we definitely need to help TRUE victims from time to time.*

 

[Joe]

This was always going to be the end result. Democracy is not for muhzies.

Maybe.

Especially not the poor, illiterate, uneducated rag-tag type.

They tried to take a bunch of people still living in the 12th Century into the 20th/21st.

Just a few of the Afghan Elites may have made it to that level.

But the majority still live somewhere n the Dark Ages.

Not exactly a suitable candidate for 'Nation-Building'.

It's not just the backwardness, it's the regional and ethnic differences. It's a failed cobbled together "country".

I gets the feeling the USA, Russia & China will be back in there one day to contain/bomb them in order to prevent the further spread of Fundamentalist Islam & the Taliban.

I suspect there's another bloodbath coming.

All I have to say is to China is: Tag, you're it. We've already wasted many hundreds of billions of dollars on a fucking stupid right wing war.

But now the Taliban has the targets on the Chinese and Chinese diplomats.






China kinda had it nice 'n cozy with America doing all the dirty work for them.

And of course China has a large Muslim population problem of its own and its own terrorist threat inside its own borders.

So the Taliban could inspire radical Islamacists in China too - the Uyghers.

And you're right...with the territory of becoming #1 also is the possibility of becoming the next target for the Taliban.

so China could end up sending its armies into Afghanistan.

This isn't right. Afghanistan has mines the Chinese buy from. - Mining in Afghanistan
Afghanistan has vast mineral deposits, including coal, copper and iron ore, talc, lithium and uranium, as well as gold, precious stones, oil and gas. Since the fall of the Taliban in 2001, the sector has been seen as the potential backbone of a post-war economy—and still

The Chinese, Iranians, Pakistanis, Russians can help Afghans through their severe drought PLUS don't forget the poppy fields... the supply chain for opiates run through China.

You people are so ignorant about Afghanistan, it is gobsmacking..

Our media feeds you bullshit. None of this has anything to do with religion.

Godless Communism working with Islamic Fundamentalists.

Hmmm, didn't the USSR try that?

To the Afghans they're outsiders, atheists and infidels.

If China goes in there, it's not as simple as buying out the Afghans.

It's a religious society, not a socialist or capitalistic state.

If china starts stepping on those people, they'll get their share of blowback too.

...actually, hasn't it already begun with all these attacks by the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Somehow I think China's turn is next on their list.

 

[Omnipotent]

Godless Communism working with Islamic Fundamentalists.

Hmmm, didn't the USSR try that?

To the Afghans they're outsiders, atheists and infidels.

If China goes in there, it's not as simple as buying out the Afghans.

It's a religious society, not a socialist or capitalistic state.

If china starts stepping on those people, they'll get their share of blowback too.

...actually, hasn't it already begun with all these attacks by the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Somehow I think China's turn is next on their list.

First of all, not only haven't you been there but the only information you get is from whatever news feeds you read.

I just TOLD you the opium trade goes through China, across the seas and ends up in your drugged out citizens arms.

Go learn about the place... google expressions like, "who buys Afghan oil?" "how much gold does Afghanistan produce," Get off the bullshit western news that is twisting all our minds manipulating the way we see things.

Also the Indian/Delta virus is ripping through the place and no one knows the stats because none are being recorded.

All those Taliban are going to get it. That'll slow them down.

 

[Joe]

Godless Communism working with Islamic Fundamentalists.

Hmmm, didn't the USSR try that?

To the Afghans they're outsiders, atheists and infidels.

If China goes in there, it's not as simple as buying out the Afghans.

It's a religious society, not a socialist or capitalistic state.

If china starts stepping on those people, they'll get their share of blowback too.

...actually, hasn't it already begun with all these attacks by the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Somehow I think China's turn is next on their list.

First of all, not only haven't you been there but the only information you get is from whatever news feeds you read.

I just TOLD you the opium trade goes through China, across the seas and ends up in your drugged out citizens arms.

Go learn about the place... google expressions like, "who buys Afghan oil?" "how much gold does Afghanistan produce," Get off the bullshit western news that is twisting all our minds manipulating the way we see things.

Also the Indian/Delta virus is ripping through the place and no one knows the stats because none are being recorded.

All those Taliban are going to get it. That'll slow them down.

Yet I don't think it's that simple - just buy out the Warlords, they get their cut & that's it.
Business is business. These people can be bought. Everybody has a price.

Uh uh. Didn't the Americans and the West try that?

About the only country I could see has a remote chance of pacifying the place is Iran.

Becuase Afghans and Iraniians are similar people . Same Religison - Islam. Same language , Farsi?

If China wants to take over the joint, they'll have to use Iran as their middleman.