This. Splitting up is the only solution

[Dove]

I was saying this for a while



Good to know so many others are on the same page.

It's sad for sentimental reasons.....but we cannot continue like this. It's already hopelessly split.

The problem is leftists want to subjugate everyone.

And a booga lou boy was being called a right winger, the fuck? Like Tim Pool says, they dont care about the whole country. Just their fucking side. We lost the country to corporate fascism anyway.

Let the monoparty soldiers have it, have their way and their government and their media and everything that comes with it....and the rest of us can have our own and we dont have to deal with this shit anymore.

They can have their lies and authoritarianism

I really do not see any other way. We cant live with these people. We cant even TALK to these people. So while the monoparty establishment fucks us ALL over, we cant even unify over that because these people hate US more than these corporate owned sleezebags.

God I hope we just split. Then we can have out lower taxes and fucking peace and do something about the school systems and work on everything.

We desperately need a divorce.

 

[Oerdin]

No, political reforms are a better idea.

 

[Dove]

No, political reforms are a better idea.

It's not possible. We are so far beyond that, O. People no longer even trust voting.

We cant vote out way out of this. And we are not gonna get reforms. We cant even get accountability or an objective honest news source.

You cant even talk to these people. That's not just here, you really cant talk to them. Like he said, these people dont even think half the country is part of the country. Just them and people who agree with them.

Tim Pool is completely right on this.

 

[Dove]

Restoring federalism would solve many of these issues but you know the left wouldnt allow it.

Look how they act over TX. They are completely against state rights and many want to get rid of electoral college.

 

[Oerdin]

Republicans will likely take both houses in 2022 while Biden is done in 2024. Republicans will then have to reinstate the fairness doctrine, regulate social media, and pass election security bills. The tax laws should also be changed so that corporations get taxed heavily, extra heavily, for political donations or social causes. I doubt Republicans have the balls to do what needs to be done but if the people demand it then they will have no choice.

Outlawing public sector unions would also be a must pass priority.

 

[Dove]

Yeah but the problem is, none of that is likely to happen.

And if it does there is just going to be more propaganda, more hysteria, more riots. More violence. More of this perpetual "unrest".

I really do not see any way to share a country with these people. They dont even care about policies. They just want control.

It shouldnt even gotten to THIS point. They control every institution. We have political prisoners.

They cant coexist peacefully.

 

[Joe]

Yeah but the problem is, none of that is likely to happen.

And if it does there is just going to be more propaganda, more hysteria, more riots. More violence. More of this perpetual "unrest".

I really do not see any way to share a country with these people. They dont even care about policies. They just want control.

It shouldnt even gotten to THIS point. They control every institution. We have political prisoners.

They cant coexist peacefully.

So what form would this new restructured reorganized USA look like, Dovey? A country divided between East and West, North and South, Red and Blue? Would you be willing to relocate to another state in order to be part of this new 'Red' Republic?

Where would you go to Dovey?

Would America split like India did during the Partition??

 

[Joe]

Well if y'all decide to split America up, this is what it might feel like:




However something tells me the American version would be more gory & violent along the lines of an India partition

 

[Dove]

Yeah but the problem is, none of that is likely to happen.

And if it does there is just going to be more propaganda, more hysteria, more riots. More violence. More of this perpetual "unrest".

I really do not see any way to share a country with these people. They dont even care about policies. They just want control.

It shouldnt even gotten to THIS point. They control every institution. We have political prisoners.

They cant coexist peacefully.

So what form would this new restructured reorganized USA look like, Dovey? A country divided between East and West, North and South, Red and Blue? Would you be willing to relocate to another state in order to be part of this new 'Red' Republic?

Where would you go to Dovey?

Would America split like India did during the Partition??

I have no idea and I would absolutely stay in a red part.

With how intensely the blue tries to control everyone and lies and gaslights? I dont keep people in my life you have to walk on egg shells around who you cant disagree with without getting verbally abused and having your character smeared.

I'm a live and let live person that values peace and compromise. All these blue people do is drive poverty and manipulate. We cant even get our schools serving communities without agendas. We cant even get inner city schools to step up.....bluntly the blue doesnt even CARE about anything besides imposing their stupid and destructive agendas.

Which is why I'm in full support of a national divorce.

 

[Dove]

The establishment has never had so much support. This whole rebranding Bush thing is disturbing. It's just another example of how fake the monoparty shills are.

They dont hate the corruption and cronyism in government or the abuse of the working Americans. They just say that as a mask. They really just hate other Americans. They are not willing to work with other Americans. In fact they have decided they are the only valid Americans... you can see that over and over in their opinions and attitudes and their officials. There is no compromise, it's their way and others are in it.

They are authoritarians who want their political will imposed on everyone. And they want to continue taxing everyone who they've decided has no voice at all.

So a national divorce is the only real solution. They will never stop trying to get that one party government and subjugating the people.

Let them have all the cronies and the fascism in their own chunk of the country. There is not going to be a way to just have stronger state rights, because these people do not want state rights....they want the federal government to impose leftwing politics on every state. They want to get rid of the electoral college and every check and balance they view as a road block to imposing their will.

If it stops them? They see it as a road block that needs to go. They want tyranny of the majority.

Look at their attitude about TX. They see this as something to fight. If you are a TX tax payer and you and bunch of other tax payers get a bill passed....leftwingers in OTHER states will be outraged that you went against their will.

It's best we split. No one would stay in a marriage being treated like this. And they protect and enable this fascist system that was created with establishment politicains, corporate elites and media. And all the universities.

We need to end Covid 1984 by just divorcing. Let them have what they want where there is an option for the rest of us to not be part of it.

Pretty sure we all know this "side" will never allow any peace or compromise. We will be stuck being fed propaganda that protects cronies, getting our rights trampled, and dealing with a country with racists hatred and riots. Its nonstop lies and gaslighting to the point where vulgar material like porn and CRT are in the schools and parents were called terrorists for opposing it.

 

[Dove]

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I'm sure the only change here is MORE people who find this the only livable solution.

This is the only way to solve this division as peacefully as possible. It's just going to continue to devolve, and even those of us NOT left and NOT in support of the monoparty get any win or any real representation, these people just amp way up. We are never going to work with people we cant even communicate with.

Their idea of peace and unity means we shut up and let them run everything. It pisses me off that we have to continue paying taxes for a psychopath establishment that does not give a shit about the people.

Maybe if split in ten years time these people would be leaving us the fuck alone?

 

[Oerdin]

Lily laughs at reforms like banning public sector unions but even far left icons like FDR (OF new Deal fame) spoke passionately and with great logic about why they should be outlawed as they are inevitably corrupt and detrimental to ordinary citizens.

I am taking the traditional left wing view here and she is to ignorant to know it.

 

[Lily]

Lily laughs at reforms like banning public sector unions but even far left icons like FDR (OF new Deal fame) spoke passionately and with great logic about why they should be outlawed as they are inevitably corrupt and detrimental to ordinary citizens.

I am taking the traditional left wing view here and she is to ignorant to know it.

Has mother given you your milk and cookies yet today?

 

[Dove]

Lily laughs at reforms like banning public sector unions but even far left icons like FDR (OF new Deal fame) spoke passionately and with great logic about why they should be outlawed as they are inevitably corrupt and detrimental to ordinary citizens.

I am taking the traditional left wing view here and she is to ignorant to know it.

Because they dont HAVE any real stances. They just HATE us. That's their positions. We are all old white male white supremacists that uphold "whiteness" so we must be defeated and fought.

These people shit canned school choice, stopped insulin prices from lowering....every thing that was accomplished for regular people was undone because "hur der whiteness"

These people dont want peace, don't want compromise, they want hatred and unrest and absolutely nothing is going to get accomplished that is good for regular Americans.

We wont have any peace or progress as long as we have to live with these people. We wont. None of them even talk honestly and they are just angry and vile.

We can just have them go their way, where they can control everything and overthrow "whiteness" and have their one party socailist paradise and the rest of us can restore a country still rooted in the American values of individual rights and liberties, where we can elected people who represent the people. Go back to a more federalist and interactive country.

We cant even get schools we PAY FOR serving communities rather than leftwing agendas. It's so bad that while our academic scores are behind other countries these fucking people are pushing "equity"(crt) curriculums and calling parents terrorists.

We cant live like this. It's not sustainable. This conflict is so deep and its past dehumanizing. Look how the vaccine shit is going. We cannot live with people who are ONLY out for their "sides" agendas and completely unwilling to even TALK to other people without hate and venom. They live in a delusional race war and decided we are racists white supremacists ffs. Even black people on our "team" are openly called white supremacists.....its fucking deranged.

If this were a marriage it would be clearly abusive and divorce would be the best. The best for everyone.

 

[Dove]

I seriously felt sick when I saw that peice of garbage media that said Larry Elder was "the black face of white supremacy".

If we think there is ever going to be any reasoning or fairness with these people we are lying to ourselves. This level of hate is just too over the top and they enjoy it. They call American politics a "blood sport" like this is fun. Its FUN for them. It's not ever going to stop. It's just going to get worse. They like the lies and smears.

Meanwhile everything else suffers, they don't care. We need to accept this and invest in ways to secede. A decent number of people are down for it, we are so beyond tired and done trying. When people are willing to use political violence like we saw and see and black people are called white supremacists....these lows being hit? It's time to stick a fork in it and split while at least we have a chance to build a stronger more cohesive country.

 

[Joe]

Yeah but the problem is, none of that is likely to happen.

And if it does there is just going to be more propaganda, more hysteria, more riots. More violence. More of this perpetual "unrest".

I really do not see any way to share a country with these people. They dont even care about policies. They just want control.

It shouldnt even gotten to THIS point. They control every institution. We have political prisoners.

They cant coexist peacefully.

So what form would this new restructured reorganized USA look like, Dovey? A country divided between East and West, North and South, Red and Blue? Would you be willing to relocate to another state in order to be part of this new 'Red' Republic?

Where would you go to Dovey?

Would America split like India did during the Partition??

I have no idea and I would absolutely stay in a red part.

With how intensely the blue tries to control everyone and lies and gaslights? I dont keep people in my life you have to walk on egg shells around who you cant disagree with without getting verbally abused and having your character smeared.

I'm a live and let live person that values peace and compromise. All these blue people do is drive poverty and manipulate. We cant even get our schools serving communities without agendas. We cant even get inner city schools to step up.....bluntly the blue doesnt even CARE about anything besides imposing their stupid and destructive agendas.

Which is why I'm in full support of a national divorce.

Maybe the US should move towards a decentralized loose federation of individual states like the old USSR. 50 separate autonomous self governing states making their own laws. They'd only pay for basic services and national defense.

Texas could decide what it's abortion law and so could California. The upside is that they would have political /social indepemdence. No other state would meddle in the others.

However the downside is one state couldn't ask for help to bail the other out. Like countries they would all be on their own. So the poor ones would get even poorer because the wealthy ones would no longer be obligated to pay federal taxes to assist them. Or if there's a hurricane in Louisiana, too bad. They're on their own.

Also, states could elect to have state border patrols to check for guns or drugs not allowed in theirs

 

[Dove]

Yeah but the problem is, none of that is likely to happen.

And if it does there is just going to be more propaganda, more hysteria, more riots. More violence. More of this perpetual "unrest".

I really do not see any way to share a country with these people. They dont even care about policies. They just want control.

It shouldnt even gotten to THIS point. They control every institution. We have political prisoners.

They cant coexist peacefully.

So what form would this new restructured reorganized USA look like, Dovey? A country divided between East and West, North and South, Red and Blue? Would you be willing to relocate to another state in order to be part of this new 'Red' Republic?

Where would you go to Dovey?

Would America split like India did during the Partition??

I have no idea and I would absolutely stay in a red part.

With how intensely the blue tries to control everyone and lies and gaslights? I dont keep people in my life you have to walk on egg shells around who you cant disagree with without getting verbally abused and having your character smeared.

I'm a live and let live person that values peace and compromise. All these blue people do is drive poverty and manipulate. We cant even get our schools serving communities without agendas. We cant even get inner city schools to step up.....bluntly the blue doesnt even CARE about anything besides imposing their stupid and destructive agendas.

Which is why I'm in full support of a national divorce.

Maybe the US should move towards a decentralized loose federation of individual states like the old USSR. 50 separate autonomous self governing states making their own laws. They'd only pay for basic services and national defense.

Texas could decide what it's abortion law and so could California. The upside is that they would have political /social indepemdence. No other state would meddle in the others.

However the downside is one state couldn't ask for help to bail the other out. Like countries they would all be on their own. So the poor ones would get even poorer because the wealthy ones would no longer be obligated to pay federal taxes to assist them. Or if there's a hurricane in Louisiana, too bad. They're on their own.

Also, states could elect to have state border patrols to check for guns or drugs not allowed in theirs

You mean like America restoring America? Because that's exactly how our country is set up. That's how America was built to prevent tyranny.

The dems/progs wont have it. That was the point we were making about TX. States are allowed to pass their own laws and Bill's. The SCOTUS only exists to interpret these under the Constitution. They never legislate.

Its fucked when you see leftwingers in CA wailing about TX laws and trying to fight them. That's legitimate fascist tyranny and they dont even understand how. They go into hysterics and try to impose their will on other states. They have no idea how the government works and they work hard to strip state rights, centralize everything and take over and change the country into a place THEY want.

They wont allow decentralizing. These people will fight anything and everything other people try to do. They are legit authoritarians and genuinely see themselves and their ideas as so good and correct that if anyone objects to them....its something wrong with THAT person. And they wont communicate. And theyll ride out bad policies and defend them even as they destroy communities.

We NEED a national divorce. It might involve some violence....but at least it would be worth violence(not like the senseless authoritarian violence in the streets today and on the horizon as people refuse to comply) Not much different than the Revolutionary war that saw the beginning of American independence. In fact that's exactly what this is like. Large amounts of people sick too death of being over taxed by a corrupt government that doesnt care about their interests and their loyalists who see us as subhuman traitors.

We either split the country or endure a civil war that involves the monoparty and their shills entirely taking over anyway. We as well call these people "loyalists".....because it's not even really left/right. Its loyalists and Americans. There are many genuine left leaners who see what's going on who want to unite as a sort new party to get rid of it and restore and protect rights and liberties and objective honesty, and get rid of lobbyists and all that shit we need to do.

 

[Seamajor]

I think geographically it will never fly. Both coasts along with portions of the N. East are Lib strong holds. The South and Mid West would be gone in no time thanks to resources like $$$$

 

[Dove]

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"Shock Poll: Staggering Number of Americans Want Out, Say They're OK with Secession"

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No clue how this is "shocking" or even "straggering". This is the best thing we could do.

 

[Dove]

I think geographically it will never fly. Both coasts along with portions of the N. East are Lib strong holds. The South and Mid West would be gone in no time thanks to resources like $$$$

Well.... a war would likely be fought.

That's going to happen anyway, at least in this context "my side" has a chance of staying a country.

I genuinely see this as the most peaceful and livable solution.

 

[Seamajor]

If this ever comes to pass, the side with the most will win. Aside from family members in NCal, I really dont care. Why do you assume your side will stay a country? How much money will you pledge to the movement?

 

[Dove]

If this ever comes to pass, the side with the most will win. Aside from family members in NCal, I really dont care. Why do you assume your side will stay a country? How much money will you pledge to the movement?

Well I'm saying seceding is the best chance we have at doing that.

And it would be the federal government that would have a problem, because a very large number of Democrats ALSO want to secede.

States can flat out stop participating. Stop paying taxes. Just.....stop.

 

[LotusBud]

I will be very happy if the dumb states secede. What a better cuntry the USA would be without the dumbass states.

 

[Dove]

I will be very happy if the dumb states secede. What a better cuntry the USA would be without the dumbass states.

See? Right here @Joe ......this is why restoring more state rights like America USED have wont work.

As long as it's all technically the same country, dems/progs hate and fight state rights.

It makes NO fucking sense whatsoever.....but do authoritarians ever make sense? They are compelled to break down state rights and impose their policies on all states through the federal government.

We have to be two different countries because these people do not understand what the states are or mean. They just see a country they view as just theirs and other parties and the concept of states is just in their way.

They want a centralized one party state. Ran by the federal government. They are working to impose that and this is why they are so angry and hateful.

WHY they wont just leave other states alone is a mystery but they take it all very personally and want just THEIR ideas applied.

Everything that was set in place to prevent tyranny is what they hate and this is how the cancerous monoparty(the swamp) takes over.

 

[Admin.]

I will be very happy if the dumb states secede. What a better cuntry the USA would be without the dumbass states.

See? Right here @Joe ......this is why restoring more state rights like America USED have wont work.

As long as it's all technically the same country, dems/progs hate and fight state rights.

It makes NO fucking sense whatsoever.....but do authoritarians ever make sense? They are compelled to break down state rights and impose their policies on all states through the federal government.

We have to be two different countries because these people do not understand what the states are or mean. They just see a country they view as just theirs and other parties and the concept of states is just in their way.

They want a centralized one party state. Ran by the federal government. They are working to impose that and this is why they are so angry and hateful.

WHY they wont just leave other states alone is a mystery but they take it all very personally and want just THEIR ideas applied.

Everything that was set in place to prevent tyranny is what they hate and this is how the cancerous monoparty(the swamp) takes over.

So does this mean, you're moving out?

 

[Dove]

I will be very happy if the dumb states secede. What a better cuntry the USA would be without the dumbass states.

See? Right here @Joe ......this is why restoring more state rights like America USED have wont work.

As long as it's all technically the same country, dems/progs hate and fight state rights.

It makes NO fucking sense whatsoever.....but do authoritarians ever make sense? They are compelled to break down state rights and impose their policies on all states through the federal government.

We have to be two different countries because these people do not understand what the states are or mean. They just see a country they view as just theirs and other parties and the concept of states is just in their way.

They want a centralized one party state. Ran by the federal government. They are working to impose that and this is why they are so angry and hateful.

WHY they wont just leave other states alone is a mystery but they take it all very personally and want just THEIR ideas applied.

Everything that was set in place to prevent tyranny is what they hate and this is how the cancerous monoparty(the swamp) takes over.

So does this mean, you're moving out?

I dont live in your state.

 

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