"Tax teh rich!!"

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.

Yep.

They continually fuck over the middle and working class and just pretend it's not at all happening.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you.

I'm one of the ones who creates that wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value that anyone would pau a nickel for at a flea market.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
 
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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

They already pay more taxes than everyone else.

And they keep alot of wealth off shore, hidden, et. There are tons of loopholes provided for them so when the tax policies get done, that burden just goes on everyone else.

It's like they would rather pretend they are helping people than actually helping people. It's almost like they are just partisan hacks who dont truly care about anything at all.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you do.

I'm one of the ones who creates the wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value to anyone.

How does that address that you're a faggot lapdog for the actual wealthy?
 
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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

They ignore this too.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you do.

I'm one of the ones who creates the wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value to anyone.

How does that address that you're a faggot lapdog for the actual wealthy?


Refer to the archives and Peachy's elegant dismounts. This one is pathetic and doesn't even deserve a negative score.
 

Lily

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you do.

I'm one of the ones who creates the wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value to anyone.

How does that address that you're a faggot lapdog for the actual wealthy?


Refer to the archives and Peachy's elegant dismounts. This one is pathetic and doesn't even deserve a negative score.

IDGAF about your scoring, gringo puto. Fucking FACT
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
I got $40 extra/week. More than any fucking scumbag democRAT ever gave me! WAY more! Like I said, they only went up under democRATs!

Now I gave you scumbags a chance! When Pat Quinn took over for Blago in Illinois, the lyin motherfucker said he had to temporarily increase income taxes by 1.5% and they'd expire in 2 years. Guess what shitbag? I told my wife "I'll support this tax increase because we have to pay the bills". Well, the first 10 months, they paid a buncha bills and then the motherfucker started a shit ton of new social programs. At the end of the 2 years, he said, sorry, but the tax increase cant be rolled back. THATS why and when we got Bruce Rauner for governor! Fuk you, you lyin whore!!!!
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
I got $40 extra/week. More than any fucking scumbag democRAT ever gave me! WAY more! Like I said, they only went up under democRATs!

Now I gave you scumbags a chance! When Pat Quinn took over for Blago in Illinois, the lyin motherfucker said he had to temporarily increase income taxes by 1.5% and they'd expire in 2 years. Guess what shitbag? I told my wife "I'll support this tax increase because we have to pay the bills". Well, the first 10 months, they paid a buncha bills and then the motherfucker started a shit ton of new social programs. At the end of the 2 years, he said, sorry, but the tax increase cant be rolled back. THATS why and when we got Bruce Rauner for governor! Fuk you, you lyin whore!!!!

Figures your faggoty ho ass would come cheap AF.
 

Reggie_Essent

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you do.

I'm one of the ones who creates the wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value to anyone.

How does that address that you're a faggot lapdog for the actual wealthy?


Refer to the archives and Peachy's elegant dismounts. This one is pathetic and doesn't even deserve a negative score.

IDGAF about your scoring, gringo puto. Fucking FACT


Lose with dignity, you goofy spic cunt.
 

Lily

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.


The ones that sees legal corruption for what it is, the absolute RAPE of the average taxpayer, that's fucking who I am, motherfucker.

Another lapdog of the wealthy, faggot.

I'm quite sure I have a higher tax bill than you, dear, and I don't even get paid with funds stolen from the productive in society who actually create all the wealth like you do.

I'm one of the ones who creates the wealth that then gets taxed to pay people like you, who produce nothing of value to anyone.

How does that address that you're a faggot lapdog for the actual wealthy?


Refer to the archives and Peachy's elegant dismounts. This one is pathetic and doesn't even deserve a negative score.

IDGAF about your scoring, gringo puto. Fucking FACT


Lose with dignity, you goofy spic cunt.

Fuck off with your tired old tropes.
 

Lokmar

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
I got $40 extra/week. More than any fucking scumbag democRAT ever gave me! WAY more! Like I said, they only went up under democRATs!

Now I gave you scumbags a chance! When Pat Quinn took over for Blago in Illinois, the lyin motherfucker said he had to temporarily increase income taxes by 1.5% and they'd expire in 2 years. Guess what shitbag? I told my wife "I'll support this tax increase because we have to pay the bills". Well, the first 10 months, they paid a buncha bills and then the motherfucker started a shit ton of new social programs. At the end of the 2 years, he said, sorry, but the tax increase cant be rolled back. THATS why and when we got Bruce Rauner for governor! Fuk you, you lyin whore!!!!

Figures your faggoty ho ass would come cheap AF.
Fuck you whore!

Read it and weep, scumbag liar!
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In his election-year budget speech Wednesday, Gov. Pat Quinn called on lawmakers to make permanent the 67 percent temporary income tax increase they approved in 2011.
Quinn’s opponent in the fall election, Republican venture capitalist Bruce Rauner, issued a statement accusing the Democratic governor of breaking promises, first by signing a larger tax hike than he promised and “then he promised his tax hike would be temporary. Today, he broke that promise, too, and is doubling down on his failed policies.”

“We can balance the budget without more tax increases, if we create a growth economy and restructure and reform our broken government,” he said.
 

Lokmar

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And just like I said, democRATs lie and say they'll give you a tax break, and then raise your fucking taxes and then lie again and say it'll only be temporary!

Refute it bitch!!!!
 

Lily

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
I got $40 extra/week. More than any fucking scumbag democRAT ever gave me! WAY more! Like I said, they only went up under democRATs!

Now I gave you scumbags a chance! When Pat Quinn took over for Blago in Illinois, the lyin motherfucker said he had to temporarily increase income taxes by 1.5% and they'd expire in 2 years. Guess what shitbag? I told my wife "I'll support this tax increase because we have to pay the bills". Well, the first 10 months, they paid a buncha bills and then the motherfucker started a shit ton of new social programs. At the end of the 2 years, he said, sorry, but the tax increase cant be rolled back. THATS why and when we got Bruce Rauner for governor! Fuk you, you lyin whore!!!!

Figures your faggoty ho ass would come cheap AF.
Fuck you whore!

Read it and weep, scumbag liar!
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In his election-year budget speech Wednesday, Gov. Pat Quinn called on lawmakers to make permanent the 67 percent temporary income tax increase they approved in 2011.
Quinn’s opponent in the fall election, Republican venture capitalist Bruce Rauner, issued a statement accusing the Democratic governor of breaking promises, first by signing a larger tax hike than he promised and “then he promised his tax hike would be temporary. Today, he broke that promise, too, and is doubling down on his failed policies.”

“We can balance the budget without more tax increases, if we create a growth economy and restructure and reform our broken government,” he said.

Not my governor and not responsible for national tax policy, you stupid shit.
 

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Which one? Goofy, spic or cunt?

Everything you post.


Well then, don't read it, you daft gash.

You're finally right, cock breath.

"Lilies are part of the genus Lilium, which is part of the Liliaceae family. The orchid plant family is one of the largest, comprised of more than 30,000 species that grow in a range of habitats. The lily family, however, is part of a single genus comprising only about 100 species and several hybrids."

Who'd give a mighty oak up for that?
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

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If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.
But you lying assholes have had a 100% lock on gubmints a shitload of times and you NEVER soak the rich like you say and instead, anyone making under 500K/yr gets soaked. Quit lying. Maybe you didnt think we noticed idiot, but nearly all the richest assholes are democRATs.


Yes, the GOP and the DEMS never go after the rich. The rich fund their campaigns, duh!
Well, Trump actually DID lower my taxes, jackass.

The average taxpayer got enough for a Costco membership. And yours are due to expire and yet the wealthy have permanent taxcuts.
I got $40 extra/week. More than any fucking scumbag democRAT ever gave me! WAY more! Like I said, they only went up under democRATs!

Now I gave you scumbags a chance! When Pat Quinn took over for Blago in Illinois, the lyin motherfucker said he had to temporarily increase income taxes by 1.5% and they'd expire in 2 years. Guess what shitbag? I told my wife "I'll support this tax increase because we have to pay the bills". Well, the first 10 months, they paid a buncha bills and then the motherfucker started a shit ton of new social programs. At the end of the 2 years, he said, sorry, but the tax increase cant be rolled back. THATS why and when we got Bruce Rauner for governor! Fuk you, you lyin whore!!!!

Figures your faggoty ho ass would come cheap AF.
Fuck you whore!

Read it and weep, scumbag liar!
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In his election-year budget speech Wednesday, Gov. Pat Quinn called on lawmakers to make permanent the 67 percent temporary income tax increase they approved in 2011.
Quinn’s opponent in the fall election, Republican venture capitalist Bruce Rauner, issued a statement accusing the Democratic governor of breaking promises, first by signing a larger tax hike than he promised and “then he promised his tax hike would be temporary. Today, he broke that promise, too, and is doubling down on his failed policies.”

“We can balance the budget without more tax increases, if we create a growth economy and restructure and reform our broken government,” he said.

Not my governor and not responsible for national tax policy, you stupid shit.
Shitbag, this is just a single fucking example of the history of you asshole democRATs lying.
 
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And just like I said, democRATs lie and say they'll give you a tax break, and then raise your fucking taxes and then lie again and say it'll only be temporary!

Refute it bitch!!!!

Look at all the shit these establishment scum bags have done.

Horrible "crime bill" policies. War mongering. Bombing women and children. Sexually assaulting women(corroborated accusations with evidence) driving poverty. Over taxing. The disgusting waste. Blatantly lying and spreading conspiracies(russiagate, the laptop being "Russian disinfo). Passing a policy that removes womens sex based rights and forces women to share prison cells with men. Forces them to compete against men in sports and even boxing. Enabling and excusing political violence that has caused many people to die, beaten people to the point of hospitalization. Violating property rights. Biden being legitimately openly racist. Eulogizing a klansman.

Abusing and bullying people who oppose all this.

You could list everything this shit party does that has harmed the country and the people. They are everything they accused Trump of being and then some.

Their useful idiots dont care. They are brainwashed and emotionally rooted in loyalty to this party, and hatred of the other parties. They are not even a tiny bit objective.

The ONLY good thing about this is that a lot people who were not paying before are now.

I hope we can get rid of this fascist machine and form a new party. A REAL peoples party.

Their loyalists will never give a shit about the country or any of the people. They only care about themselves and how they get a smug superior feeling supporting the establishment. It's an emotional attachment they have to thinking of themselves as fighters for the people(even as they completely fuck over the people and try like hell to pretend they are not) and hating oppositing parties.

And most of all them are just horrible people. Manipulative, controling, vile people that shouldnt be trusted. Their primary interests are using people to try to make themselves feel good. It's not actually about the country or others. It's nothing more or less than some twisted ego trip to them.

So they love all the fuel they get from propagandists like corporate media and see nothing wrong with dehumanizing their opposition. And any killed, harmed or having their livelihood destroyed is just collateral damage on their journey to the greater good. The "greater good" they have force on half (probably more by now) the country by using propaganda, blatant lies, gas lighting, abuse and threats, riots and coercion. And looking past illegal and scum bag actions of those heading the way to their "utopia" one party authoritarian government.
 
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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.
 

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I love how that under this proposed tax increase which the Democrats are pushing the combined total top marginal tax rate in places like NYC (fed, state, and city income tax rates combined) would be 62% for high earners. Yet many dems say that is still not enough for high earners to "pay their fair share". When you are taking most of their income they are clearly paying far more than their fair share.

Thus why high income entertainers like the rapper 50 cent said he would just leave New York and more to Texas to avoid the excessive taxation. I can't say I disagree with him.
 
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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.

Lotus if WE were going to bat for billionaires.....why are they not supporting us and helping us out?

Do you really think they are just so offended they arent paying higher taxes and really want to? They want to pay higher wages but just cant?

Yeah dems/progs get votes TALKING about raising taxes for the wealthy. But when they DO raise taxes? There are loopholes and all kinds of ways they can avoid paying these tax hikes and it always ends up the regular peoples problem.

We are not "going to bat" for billionaires. We are saying this is a straight up scam. We have seen how it's a scam. It HARMS everyone.

And it's the principle. The government shouldnt be going after more taxes. They completely waste and misuse the taxes they take already. That's a big problem. So why should they be taking MORE from anyone?

The wealthy elite are not going to be paying more taxes than they already do. No matter what politicains say. It's not going to happen. It just screws over the regular people. If anyone is going to bat for the wrong people here it's you guys defending scumbags taking more money from the people.

Do you guys really think these wealthy elites hide their wealth on PAY PAL? They are gonna go after the wealthy.....by watching the pay PAL accounts of moms who sell more than 600 bucks worth of make up? Or anyone scratching for extra money online?

Dems/progs destroyed the fuck out of thousands of small businesses. Now the IRS is gonna stalking anyone who gets over 600 bucks on Pay Pal and you guys believe this is really about what you think is fairness regarding going after the wealthy elite?

Seriously it's like you guys buy into their lies and completely avoid seeing how it's a lie when its harming the very people you say you are for.

You all SHOULD be pissed about this.
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.
Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?
 

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I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

And yet, there is a difference between
I have moar respect for some guy selling hot dogs from a push cart on the street than I do for any person employed by the State because that guy selling hot dogs on the street creates wealth, and not one single government "worker" at any level, anywhere, ever, has ever created a single penny of wealth to benefit their fellow citizens.

...so does that include those employed by a bloated Millitary Industrial complex and all the monies lavished upon them or wasted in the name of national defense?


Yes, of course. Dwight Eisenhower explained that when you and I were just tiny children.

It's all puzzle pieces, Joe. Put them together.

Thing is, any US president who has tried to shrink the size of the US military always gets his agenda usurped by his successor, Rennel.

Eisehnower tried to cut back its size, but was overrriden by his successor.

And clinton did the same only to find the Military Industrail complex to come back with a vengeance under W Bush.

Even Trump wanted to downsize somewhat. but his desire to cut back your country's military commitments was met with hostility by war hawks/whores in the Pentagon. They appear to want war 24/7 non stop on time all the time. As far as they're concerned a bloated military is a good military.


Joe, please refer to poast #80 where I say: " ... States can only grow, and can never retract, and there comes a time in the life of a State when too great a percentage of the populace subsists upon the wealth confiscated from the productive in society that create all the wealth in the first place."

It can become quite tiresome to repeat oneself over and over again when the point has already clearly been stated.

Taxation is Theft.

Period.

End of story.

Mike drop.

-30


If you have anything to add that might bely that simple statement of truth, then make it, but don't make me explain again and again and again what I have already said.

One thing I'll say, that you definitely won't agree with - is that most of us in the USA or Canada don't pay enough tax for many of the services we get in return. If we had to pay for what these services actually cost, we'd pay lot more tax than we do now.

I will agree with you slightly, that the lower classes in our nations, especially Canada, don't pay enough for the services they get in return, and many want more yet are unwilling to accept the burden which goes along with it. Free healthcare for example

The government in power here is talking about introducing a guaranteed national income.
But then they expect to pay little or no taxes to get such benefits in return. How we can afford it is beyond me.

Likewise, in the United States, the wealthy want a powerful army to protect their overseas investments to keep their investments profitable but then want to pay minimal taxes to keep it going. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods and property, but don't want to pay the taxes to hire more policemen.

So in both cases I've cited, it leads to deficits. Both groups, rich or poor, want theirs without sacrificing in return it takes to have them. Both groups want their own version of entitilements.

So if you want to go to shithole countries where the rich don't pay any tax, be my guest.

But then be prepared to hire your own private army Or pay someone to fix your streets or street lighting, whatever. If you need to see the doctor, you pay to see a private doctor because in those places, there's no national health insurance. Isn't that the meaning of Libertarianism? You pay for everything yourself out of your own pocket.

Anyways, I think ya'd find after a while that this kind of arrangement would be very expensive.
You stupid motherfucker. They already take more than 50% of my money. People like you need strung up and burned alive, piece of shit.


But you think you're rich, so you don't side with those that want to shift the tax burden onto the hundred millionaires and billionaires. Dumfuq
You stupid asshole bitch, I used to be poor! I listened to assholes you support tell me for decades that I wouldnt pay more in taxes yet you people did NOTHING to lower my tax burden. It only went up over the years as a percentage of my wages no matter how much I made!!!! When my wife and I made about $65K - $70K together, I STILL fukin paid 47% when all my taxes were added up and that was with 4 kids! No fukin relief when president nigger ran the show! NONE! Now we make about $300K/yr and guess what, we fukin still pay through the nose and you shitbags want even more! Even worse, rich people ALREADY pay a shitload of taxes and more than their fair share! Why in the fuck would I want you to take more from them when you liars already have a time tested and proven track record of not giving me any relief? Spare me your lyin bullshit, lady!


Rich people don't pay nearly enough. Sorry, you're wrong. Bezo's was worth like what $20 billion 15 years ago and is now worth nearly $200 billion. Unless he buys some country, he couldn't begin to spend it all.

They need to pay more for the legal corruption. It is corrupt to let capital gains slide and rape the average taxpayer. If you want a really corrupt society where you don't pay much in taxes, go live in a 3rd world shithole.

Just be prepared to pay what you pay in taxes for armed security, stupid fuck.


"Rich people don't pay nearly enough. "

Who are you to say who pays enough and who doesn'T?

Since you get paid with monies confiscated from others through taxation, you don't get a say.

Taxpayer leeches shouldn't even be allowed to vote in my opinion.

Why do you guys always go to bat for billionaires? It literally makes no sense. We all pay more taxes than they do, and they have more money than anyone could spend in ten lifetimes, even 100 lifetimes. Why do you stick up for them raping everyone else on the planet? Because you think you are destined to be a billionaire?

Everyone should pay taxes. It is not possible to run a country without taxation.
Why do you liars keep taking more of my fucking money?

Your taxes are inevitably set to rise in dramatic fashion due to your President Biden's ultra expensive infrastructure bill set to become the Law in America soon, Lokmeer.

So Suck it up, Buttercup!