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It is about this time I point out that a picture of troops paused at a poppyfield does not mean they are guarding it... looks to me that they may be conferring while out on patrol of a vast stretch hostile land in a place they'd rather not be surrounded by people who'd rather not see them there.
I am curious as to exactly the point of this thread, other than to irk certain quarters into responding in the most colourful manner possible. By posting such blatant propaganda are you not employing the very same tactics as the forces you propose to deride? Now if you could offer some actual aerial over head shots of such deployment with the exclusive purpose of guarding a poppy field, yes yes, let us gather the pitchforks and holler.
"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."
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"The term “unwinnable war” is a strange and ambiguous notion used most often to describe fake reasoning for not winning a war. This seems absurd to me, and at the same time insincere. Lately, I have heard this term used often in personal correspondence sent to me, and in the published writings of others concerning past wars. Mainly ex-soldiers, politicians, and other purveyors of war use this term in order to shield themselves from the shame of losing. But was the real intent ever to win?
After the fact, the unwinnable war theory always seems to surface, as if war should not be fought if it is unwinnable. Does this mean that war is just a game? Do the U.S. and its military enter each aggression with the question, is this winnable? If so, is this the criteria considered, or is the opposite effect actually pursued?"
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"Once this premise is accepted, the term winning a war takes on a whole new meaning. Forcing surrender and winning the war means the war is over, troops come home, and the military industrial complex doesn’t get continuous multi-billion dollar contracts. Unwinnable war leads to perpetual war, and perpetual war leads to more money, power, and control. The government and the ruling elite use war for political and geopolitical reasons, for monetary gain, and to increase power, so winning in the traditional sense is not what is desired. Today, not winning war is actually winning the war, because that is the objective sought by the state apparatus."
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It's a real shame most people don't understand this. Ideally all the common folk should understand.
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"The indifference concerning war in this country is a double-edged sword. While ignoring the horrors of U.S. foreign policy is the easy way out, especially when that indifference can be shielded from scrutiny behind the shadow of false patriotism, it does not erase guilt by involvement. No war can be sustained by the state unless consent of the people is given, regardless whether it is informed or implied. Blood is not just on the hands of soldiers hired to murder for the state, it is also on the hands of the people who do nothing to stop it."
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The veterans be hatin'. They hate the fact they're really pawns of the ruling elite.
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Of course some veterans have realized this fact.
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"The exceptional ones are those who stand against war and tyranny, not those who salute a flag that represents the murder and slaughter of innocents. Worshiping the purveyors of war is no different than worshiping war itself, but this distinction is lost in the brainwashed minds of those who hold the state up as a god. When support of war and those who prosecute war becomes common even in the houses of religion, as it has in the U.S., then the country as a whole has lost its way."
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"If the soldiers refused to do the bidding of the state, no war could take place. If the public stood against war, no war could be prosecuted. In the U.S. today, both the warmongering military and the public are in support of aggression, and therefore war will continue unabated until either the people or the soldiers find the moral courage to say no more war. During the Vietnam War, many stood up and were able to force a stop to that massacre. One of those was Phil Ochs, a brave protester who sang: "
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Hazypooooooooo
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Fixing to give him some shit?
Get it? Shit? LOLRZ
Get it? Shit? LOLRZ
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Alright Hazypoo you little grunt you.
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That's a shitty attitude.
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I wasn't a Grunt,I was a Crew Chief on a CH-1 so get it right Jr. and also wondering if there are any Military (past or present)personal on your family tree- - - - - -
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It is about this time I point out that a picture of troops paused at a poppyfield does not mean they are guarding it... looks to me that they may be conferring while out on patrol of a vast stretch hostile land in a place they'd rather not be surrounded by people who'd rather not see them there.
I am curious as to exactly the point of this thread, other than to irk certain quarters into responding in the most colourful manner possible. By posting such blatant propaganda are you not employing the very same tactics as the forces you propose to deride? Now if you could offer some actual aerial over head shots of such deployment with the exclusive purpose of guarding a poppy field, yes yes, let us gather the pitchforks and holler.
"The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war."
- Douglas MacArthur
Well said, Krieg.
Pictures tell a thousand words, but they're often cherry picked and deliberately spun to peddle the narrative of choice to be picked up and parroted by others.
Some view the world through the simple eyes a five year old and can't grasp the larger picture or understand objectives that go beyond the immediate while others have an agenda to push. This is the internet age where if you believe the world is flat, men never went to the moon or that two and two make three, there will be plenty of sources to cite and quote as if they're facts.
The opiate is the angel of mercy that eases suffering and prevents people from screaming on the way out of this life so there are legitimate sources of it as well as those that aren't, the proceeds of the latter going to finance the slaughter of you and I in the west.
Fields found over there prior to harvest time have details that need ironing out and need personnel brought in which may include DEA agents along with drug and bomb sniffing dogs that locate caches to determine what's what. It's not, "a poppy field, let's light it up".
It may be a legit pharm source in a nation outside of the west. It may be the field of a regional warlord who plays ball with the allies and competes with the Talibanj by peddling it over the mountains to the east (the lesser of two inevitable evils and the "big picture" stuff). And it may be a field that benefits the Taliban. Lots of maybes.
By the way, their fighters don't get the balls to step up from their sacred Queeran, they get it from smack and are in fact a bunch of junkies. A couple of hours locked in a room and they're sweating so hard they'll look like they just got waterboarded.
Depending on the outcome of what's determined, tons of poppies, pot and processed narcotics would routinely go up in smoke. Once a non-legit source is located by the coalition the rats would scramble to harvest and disappear it into the pipeline where money changes hands but that's not gonna happen while we're standing there until things are clarified.
This is when pics like the one above get taken.
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My guess is they are waiting on the guys with the flame throwers- - - - - - - -
PS- I wonder what KW would do if we got invaded by aliens from another world,who would he call or would he just join them- - - - - - -
PS- I wonder what KW would do if we got invaded by aliens from another world,who would he call or would he just join them- - - - - - -
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Probably what the rest of us would do, submit or die. Any beings that have mastered interstellar travel will undoubtably have the firepower to render the planet's armies and weaponry null and void.
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It's such a shame that the wealthy few can cause so much pain and suffering for the many.
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For the many not wealthy.
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More of a shame when a good sized portion don't understand what's really going on.
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I'm 99.99% certain you jokers don't belong to the wealthy, ruling class.
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Did you know that 5% of the people control 95% of the money ?
PS- I'm 100% certain you don't belong to the wealthy, ruling class either so what's your point ?
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