Those scary Muslims

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There are 3.5 million Muslims in the US. There are mass shootings there every day. Why aren't there terrorist attacks every day, with all those violent Muslims living there? Weird.
 
LotusBud said:
There are 3.5 million Muslims in the US. There are mass shootings there every day. Why aren't there terrorist attacks every day, with all those violent Muslims living there? Weird.
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That's a remarkably stupid question, Lotus. First of all there have been shootings by muslims - also a little incident in NYC in 2001. Thirdly, stick around till the percentage is not less than 1 but 5 or 10 as it is in say France where violence and destruction far more regular.
 
Not are violent Muslims are terrorists. Just like not all violent Italians are mobsters.
 
The New Holliday said:
That's a remarkably stupid question, Lotus. First of all there have been shootings by muslims - also a little incident in NYC in 2001. Thirdly, stick around till the percentage is not less than 1 but 5 or 10 as it is in say France where violence and destruction far more regular.
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My point, which you seem determined to ignore, is the FACT that not all Muslims are violent. In FACT, most Muslims are not violent. If I sat here saying all Jews are violent, how would you react? I am very repelled by gross stereotyping of any group of people. It's ethically abhorrent to me.
 
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My point, which you seem determined to ignore, is the FACT that not all Muslims are violent. In FACT, most Muslims are not violent. If I sat here saying all Jews are violent, how would you react? I am very repelled by gross stereotyping of any group of people. It's ethically abhorrent to me.
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Of course they aren't all violent. I've also pointed out many many times over the years that not everyone is in the military class any more than all are in the merchant class or any other, and yet the militant faction does the work it is assigned, and it is condoned by the masses.
Maybe you'd like to live in Turkey. You, as a woman, can not even walk alone in the street unescorted by a male family member. That's how totally fucking primitive they are, Lotus. I mean, I suppose that for men there is a certain enticement to the idea that if you ask a woman to make you a sammich that she better just do it, but do you really want to defend that sort of barbarianism?
 
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I guess what I mean
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And just like not all stupid Americans aren't Trumpists?
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I'm no expert Lotus, I just mean that it takes a special kind of person to be a terrorist. There are some very violent people out there but terrorists take violence and depravity to a whole new level and are far more organized than the average killer. That's all I'm saying. I also believe that not every Muslim is a terrorist either. People saw what extremists like Osama bin Laden did and automatically the entire religion is made up of terrorists. Terrorists are their own thing.
 
The New Holliday said:
Of course they aren't all violent. I've also pointed out many many times over the years that not everyone is in the military class any more than all are in the merchant class or any other, and yet the militant faction does the work it is assigned, and it is condones by the masses.
Maybe you'd like to live in Turkey. You, as a woman, can not even walk alone in the street unescorted by a male family member. That's how totally fucking primitive they are, Lotus. I mean, I suppose that for men there is a certain enticement to the idea that if you ask a woman to make you a sammich that she better just do it, but do you really want to defend that sort of barbarianism?
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What is this crap with "Maybe you'd like to live in..."? I told you before, I don't want to live in the US. That doesn't mean I hate all Americans and think they should be driven into the sea. I will never live in any country that makes women second class citizens. That doesn't mean I think people from those countries should all die. BTW, the men here in Portugal are in many ways less patriarchal than American men. Just sayin'. I don't support machismo, at all. That doesn't mean it's okay for Israel to murder every chauvinist on the planet. Or whatever it is you're trying to say with this "Would you like to live in" BS.
 
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I guess what I mean

I'm no expert Lotus, I just mean that it takes a special kind of person to be a terrorist. There are some very violent people out there but terrorists take violence and depravity to a whole new level and are far more organized than the average killer. That's all I'm saying. I also believe that not every Muslim is a terrorist either. People saw what extremists like Osama bin Laden did and automatically the entire religion is made up of terrorists. Terrorists are their own thing.
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Yes, it does. And they are their own thing. But I can't say I know what I would do if I had been living in "Palestine" since the 1940s. It might have turned me into a terrorist. Who knows.
 
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What is this crap with "Maybe you'd like to live in..."? I told you before, I don't want to live in the US. That doesn't mean I hate all Americans and think they should be driven into the sea. I will never live in any country that makes women second class citizens. That doesn't mean I think people from those countries should all die. BTW, the men here in Portugal are in many ways less patriarchal than American men. Just sayin'. I don't support machismo, at all. That doesn't mean it's okay for Israel to murder every chauvinist on the planet. Or whatever it is you're trying to say with this "Would you like to live in" BS.
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Ah..so once again you aren't going to acknowledge that a muslim country isn't to your liking because of the primitivism. Hey, I don't want to live in England but that doesn't mean I don't like the British. What the hell sort of answer is that? Are you oppressed in the US? You know - as you would be in a muslim nation? That's the reason you wouldn't live in a muslim country, Lotus - not because of economics or clothing styles or cuisine.
 
The New Holliday said:
Ah..so once again you aren't going to acknowledge that a muslim country isn't to your liking because of the primitivism. Hey, I don't want to live in England but that doesn't mean I don't like the British. What the hell sort of answer is that? Are you oppressed in the US? You know - as you would be in a muslim nation? That's the reason you wouldn't live in a muslim country, Lotus - not because of economics or clothing styles or cuisine.
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I'd like to live in England. Best fish and chips, candy and chess clubs.
 
LotusBud said:
Yes, it does. And they are their own thing. But I can't say I know what I would do if I had been living in "Palestine" since the 1940s. It might have turned me into a terrorist. Who knows.
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Hey, maybe living in the mist of violent muslims who repeatedly attack you would turn you into a terrorist. Who knows?
 
The New Holliday said:
Have you ever asked yourself, Lotus, how many "muslims" (because they are considered that by birth rather than choice) would walk away from it and its inherent violent expansionism, if they weren't fearful of being hunted down and murdered for being apostate?
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Nope. That's not part of my mission.
 
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Nope. That's not part of my mission.
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There are many secular Muslims or those that have chosen other faiths around the world. This isn't a war about religion. Terrorists use religion to spread their propaganda.

It's obvious to anyone with any understanding of other wars going on, it's always really about land and resources.
 
And those that took over all the land from coast to coast in this country also used religion as a propaganda...Manifest Destiny. It was God's providence...blah, blah, blah...
 
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Back when there were no international laws...apples are round and oranges are round...it's all the same thing.

Disingenuous troll is going to be disingenuous.

How about the Roman Empire? The Greeks and the Mongolian. And has anyone conquered more people than the English Empire? They outdid the Spanish and that was a lot of conquistadoring...

Who was the son of a bitch creature that left the waters and dared to conquer the land, how about that? Huh, huh...huh...
 


Say, who was living in Palestine before muslims stole it in the big land grab?

I'm hearing that conquest is as natural as morning mist,
Birds do it
Bees do it
Even little fishes from the sea do it
Let's grab some land.

...but a tiny little area the size of New Jersey is set aside for some refugee Jews and

AAAAAAH! AAAAAAH!

STAAAP TEH STEEEEEAL!
... STAAAAAP TEH STEEEEEAL!!!!

Let my make it simple for you folks.
.. In any conflict just set the parties side by side.
The ones with the darker skin are always the good guys.
It's really all you need to know.

PS: Just watch - the information will not be what is challenged.

 
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