Do you believe in god?

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Good, because it's little...but it's not the size that matters right ?
 

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1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance.

Therefore, no god required.

If no god required, no god proved.

Besides, even if probability indicated the necessity of a god, and it doesn't, it doesn't indicate which god was necessary. Might have been the god of them heathen Hindoos. Or the Egyptians. Or the Norse.

Might'a been JHVH-1 as told by his hallowed prophet J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.
 

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Theists are morons, not unlike mods who delete my posts.

Theists, eh? That's one of the dozen catch words atheists like to inject into every conversation (like "dogma") as if they're trying project smarts lol. They also rely on arguing their case by frequently posting quotes from their atheist heros all the time while seldom posting an original thought of their own.

Can't stand the textbook atheist, and I don't lump them in with non-believers because they are two different things, one doesn't believe and the other one has a personality problem lol.
The atheist wakes up in the morning with a scowl with the objective of spilling their whine all over the internet, begging to be debated for the attention they crave, insisting people prove God to them. And even if you did and they got on board, they're the folks we avoid when we see them coming and either sigh or fumble for our cell phones before they grab out ear and start bitching about anal retentive shit, like who left the smelly egg salad in the work fridge or about how they'll post an anonymous note to shame whoever leaves the microwave area a mess lmao. I never understood them, people who obsessively give a fuck what other people think like it puts a big bug up their ass to the point they live to stick a pin in the comfort of others. This is why they restrict all of ot to the internet while in real life, quieter than a dead mouse in a graveyard because they know they'd catch a good slap for the disrespectful way they carry on.
Tbh, if I could prove God on one post to them, I wouldn't.. I don't want them whining in my ear for an eternity in Heaven about mundane bullshit that'll tempt me to jump the rail to hell.

Anyway, these theists.. are they like the idiots who eat sugar? Try some, give that brain a boost and you can do the math on how there's a 1 in a 10 to the 164th power chance DNA formed on its own without an intervening hand.
 
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1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance.

Therefore, no god required.

If no god required, no god proved.

Besides, even if probability indicated the necessity of a god, and it doesn't, it doesn't indicate which god was necessary. Might have been the god of them heathen Hindoos. Or the Egyptians. Or the Norse.

Might'a been JHVH-1 as told by his hallowed prophet J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance..
WHAT? That's like the same person winning the billion dollar power ball lottery 10,000 times in a row and saying you'll accept it's a coincidence! lol

"Well, it is possible! Give him his billions, for the 10,000th time!"
Come on, man! You gonna chance taking a pitchfork in your ass for an eternity with those odds?:LOL2:

EDIT: All the monotheistic religions are talking about the same one God anyway just a different name. That said, I don't expect the muzzies are getting in, not when they've embraced traumatizing kids and goats the way they do lol.
 

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I hope god is getting amusement out of people bickering about whether there is or isn't a god.

Imagine the irony of it though. He makes us, or as these numbers suggest, gets evolution started to let it run its course with minimal intervention until mankind eventually reaches the pinnacle of his present wisdom, intelligence and also arrogance to the point he looks up and dispute his creator.
Before we knew the world was round, suggesting it was a ball was a lot more of a ridiculous stretch than an omnipotent creator, yet there it was, a ball. Then came the mind bending shit related to black holes and what happens at the even horizon which is even more ridiculous, then now we accept it.

We've pretty much accepted the big bang theory, that it was a lump just sitting there doing nothing, no variables were changing for an eternity. So what intervening force altered that variable causing it to explode outward at moment zero rather than a millisecond prior or after? God, that's what! It's not just gonna decide, 'I've been sitting here for an eternity..boring.. think I'll blow up now!"
 

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Good, because it's little...but it's not the size that matters right ?

Why are you always talking about penis, about men's balloon knots and all that gay stuff? Are you being like the fat man who leads the way in making fat jokes to disguise the fact it bugs him, hoping to conceal your, how do you say it.. an insatiable hunger and desire to caress the hairy buttocks of a fellow man?

Wait, don't tell me.. I have a theory. :Thinking:
 
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I hope god is getting amusement out of people bickering about whether there is or isn't a god.

Imagine the irony of it though. He makes us, or as these numbers suggest, gets evolution started to let it run its course with minimal intervention until mankind eventually reaches the pinnacle of his present wisdom, intelligence and also arrogance to the point he looks up and dispute his creator.
Before we knew the world was round, suggesting it was a ball was a lot more of a ridiculous stretch than an omnipotent creator, yet there it was, a ball. Then came the mind bending shit related to black holes and what happens at the even horizon which is even more ridiculous, then now we accept it.

We've pretty much accepted the big bang theory, that it was a lump just sitting there doing nothing, no variables were changing for an eternity. So what intervening force altered that variable causing it to explode outward at moment zero rather than a millisecond prior or after? God, that's what! It's not just gonna decide, 'I've been sitting here for an eternity..boring.. think I'll blow up now!"

God self-detonated himself?!
 

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1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance.

Therefore, no god required.

If no god required, no god proved.

Besides, even if probability indicated the necessity of a god, and it doesn't, it doesn't indicate which god was necessary. Might have been the god of them heathen Hindoos. Or the Egyptians. Or the Norse.

Might'a been JHVH-1 as told by his hallowed prophet J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance..
WHAT?

Just what I said. Unless a mechanistic explanation has zero chance of being correct, it doesn't prove the existence of a god.

The Holmesian Maxim goes like this, "Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains -- however improbable -- must be the truth."

You haven't eliminated a mechanistic universe as impossible, just improbable. The existence of a god as described by the Abrahamic religions, on the other hand, is logically impossible. The existence of a god is eliminated, mechanistic universe remains.
 

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By the way, why is the Abrahamic god impossible? Because of what he supposedly says about himself in his "holy book":

1. All knowing: If your god knows everything, then he knew his creation -- us -- would be flawed before he created us. So he did that knowing we'd piss him off. Then punished us for his design flaw that he knew would piss him off. That's pure evil.

2. All powerful: If your god is all powerful, he wouldn't have fucked up and created something -- us -- that had a flaw in it.

3. Benevolent: If your god is either all knowing or all powerful but still couldn't get us right, he wouldn't have created us just to punish us. Again, that makes your god pure evil.

Your god logically cannot exist as described. Therefore, your god is impossible. Therefore, your god is eliminated from contention and the mechanistic universe remains.
 

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By the way, here's how people smarter than DiLF sidestepped the impossibility problem: Deism.

That mechanistic universe? It is god. And since we're made of the same stuff as the rest of the universe, we sense that and have tried various mythological explanations to figure out what it is we're sensing.
 

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1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance.

Therefore, no god required.

If no god required, no god proved.

Besides, even if probability indicated the necessity of a god, and it doesn't, it doesn't indicate which god was necessary. Might have been the god of them heathen Hindoos. Or the Egyptians. Or the Norse.

Might'a been JHVH-1 as told by his hallowed prophet J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.

1 chance in 10-to-the-164th power is not 0 chance..
WHAT?

Just what I said. Unless a mechanistic explanation has zero chance of being correct, it doesn't prove the existence of a god.

The Holmesian Maxim goes like this, "Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains -- however improbable -- must be the truth."

You haven't eliminated a mechanistic universe as impossible, just improbable. The existence of a god as described by the Abrahamic religions, on the other hand, is logically impossible. The existence of a god is eliminated, mechanistic universe remains.


Okay, so the maxim,
"Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains -- however improbable -- must be the truth"

When neither is possible but one must be certain, I'll go for the one with the odds stacked against chance and with that, things are looking pretty good in favor of God.

Or, you can go with the, "Chariots of the Gods", aliens if you like since the numbers don't cover the specifics, only that an intelligence intervened at the genetic level.

I seldom bother kicking these things around because they just go around and around and around like a hamster on a treadmill, going nowhere because there's no proof to cite either way that'll settle it like throwing down an Ace and no amount of logic is gonna do it either.
There are no definitive mic drops in the God vs no God debate.

I just know that what I am and those I've known who've passed away have that something that transcends a few dollars worth of carbon and sorted minerals, and that magic mojo didn't end, it went somewhere I'll be going one day. Sure it's a comforting thought but it's not based on wishful thinking, it's a confidence I feel and know, can't explain it but it works for me.
Those that say religion is for those who can't wrap their head around science, I can. I know my way around a lab pretty well.
Then they say, it's for those who are afraid of the idea of facing death.. I'll take what comes, whatever the truth is, but I've got no fear of death or I wouldn't have made choices that really put my life in jeopardy so much people think I might have some kind of death wish.

I actually wondered about it myself, but then dove out of the way of an oncoming bus with an agility I never knew I possessed and ruled that out.
Thank God for the guardian angel must've helped push me out of the way lol.
 
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There's a whole population of gods arguing if one human exists or if multiple humans exist. Arguing about which human to believe in.