Hey Aidsman, is this another of your "trans" friends?

[Dove]

It's also full of homosexuals and all kinds of other degenerates.

It's not rational and normal thinking homosexuals that bother me.

Its politcal gays. The LGBTQ+ cultists who are pushing to force a culture where age of consent isnt a thing and biological sex has no meaning. The intensely hateful and violent way they respond to push back and opposition is scary. The people are are pushing to have children removed by the state of the parents dont jump on board with gender confusion and give their minor child puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and even surgeries like mastectomies and facail feminization. To oppose this is "anti lgbt" now.

TRAs are worse than incels with their violent desires they have towards women and lesbians....lots of these people in progressive states.

 

[Omnipotent]

Safe injection sites are not needle exchange programs. We already do that.

This goes further and its helping people shoot up "safety".

So what will happen is, people with blown veins will go going so they can have a nurse help them get a vein. So those people now have less motive to stop using.

People who are curious that normally wouldnt touch it because shooting up is scary and off putting to the simply curious will now have a safe place to find out how intensely wonderful opiates feel. So there will be new junkies along with old ones who now have less risk to assess and less motive to go get clean.

Safe injection sites are just that. You go get help from nurses to shoot dope. Addicts already can get clean needles. You can get them free or buy a bag for less than 5 bucks. The problem isnt access to fresh needles. Junkies will still share old ones because...they are junkies.

It's a bad idea because its removing a lot of discomfort and risk from using that typically help motivate people to stop. It removes the fear of overdose. Which isn't actually a good thing.

Democrat voters will typically just claim what they THINK something is....they dont look into it or think deeply on it. It's one thing to have needle exchanges and I have no issue with that. This is a place to bang dope "safely" with medical supervision. They already get clean needles.

And still nothing changes with the stupid drug war and criminalizing and over regulating doctors so they can hardly even treat painet alone treat physical addiction. There is no help or steps to recover. I'm for decriminalizing and treatment. I think it's sad that instead of meaningful change....they are just gonna help people die slower.

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Doing their part to keep the risks of IV drug use lower than the benefits. Why get clean. Smh.

Yeah, you're coming from another view to me. You are coming from protecting the junkie and wanting the junkie to reform...

The place
I am coming from is protecting the community from junkies.... and especially the nurses that face violence and possible diseases from junkies.

I like Russel Brands opinion about junkies. He pulls absolutely no punches at all however I won't repeat them because I know some of your history and I might unnecessarily offend you from my hard line attitude.

 

[Dove]

Yeah, you're coming from another view to me. You are coming from protecting the junkie and wanting the junkie to reform...

The place am coming from is protecting the community from junkies.... and especially the nurses that face violence and possible diseases from junkies.

I like Russel Brands opinion about junkies. He pulls absolutely no punches at all however I won't repeat them because I know some of your history and I might unnecessarily offend you from my hard line attitude.

I've been following Russel Brand for years and I completely agree with his views on recovery. Not sure what he has said that would be offensive. He has some of the best recovery content....most who follow his recovery content are recovering addicts.

My stance is I dont support protecting junkies. The more risk involved the more likely they are to get help. Many people have recovered because they didnt want to die. Now we are protecting them from themselves.

Safe injection sites (tax payer funded btw) are an epitome of enabling. That's my issue with it.... its protecting the junkie. Removing consequences that normally would motivate a person to get real help.

Safe injection sites literally put nurses right out there with street junkies.... They will be right out there with junkies helping them shoot up. When they get junkies who have blown veins, theyll probably get punched in the face if they cant hit one. I dont see how having nurses working directly with junkies in a setting where the goal is continued "safe" use would protect them from risk.....this multiplies their risk of disease and violence from addicts.

I also dont see how this protects the community either.

Decriminalizing drug addiction and treating it as a health crisis and allowing doctors to be doctors instead of creating a dynamic where more addicts are made and pushed onto streets would be a good step.

This is just gonna keep people using longer as well as help people BECOME addicted because now they have the option of trying it safely. And yeah people are gonna do that. I cannot tell you how many people have asked me what it felt like and confessed they always wanted to try it but couldnt get past the fear of injecting themselves and overdose.

 

[Omnipotent]

Well basically he said junkies are lowlife pieces of shit. He said NOTHING kind whatsoever.

When nurses have to nurse junkies with AIDS its very ugly and they are at risk of developing AIDS from needlestick injuries... Dr do too, of course.

I'm more into prevention than cure. We know better now...or we should do.

Dovey, I don't care if people become addicted. I really don't. I have zero compassion for them. It's like all the young run off to concerts and dummies take drugs and die (like silly 15 yr olds) I don't care about them.

They try to cheat death and lose,...

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

I wish women would walk around naked in my town it ain't fair

 

[Omnipotent]

I wish women would walk around naked in my town it ain't fair

Apparently it's the best birth control...

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Apparently it's the best birth control...

How so?

 

[Dove]

I've never seen Brand say junkies are low life pieces of shit. He was an addict and he does A LOT in the recovery communities and has a lot of pro recovery content. He has reached and helped a lot of addicts. He is all about reforming the addict and promoting recovery.

The comments on his content are full of people talking about their recovery and clean time and encouraging others.





He doesnt cater to the disordered addict thinking and doesnt cosign the bullshit addicts tell themselves .....but that's a big part of recovery.

Regardless how people feel about addicts, using tax payer funds to have "safe injection sites" where people can just continue being junkies.....or take the step to become a junkie....by protecting them from the consequences of using IV street drugs isnt any real harm reduction. It just stops them from overdosing.

Its bizzare to see people who admittedly have no compassion for addicts ....and saying "try to cheat death and lose" would argue to protect addicts from exactly that.

If that's your stance Cascur why do you support the government funding places where junkies can safely shoot up with the fear of overdose eliminated?

Think about it this way. These safe injection sites not only require nurses to be a higher risk of violence and disease from shooting up heroin addicts, but now we will have junkies on the streets LONGER. They wont get help and they wont die. See what I'm saying? That's more crime, too....because as long as they are out there using "safety" they have no incentive to recover and will live longer on the streets and rob more people and commit more crime.

So why would you want to enable them to use more safely and continue on the path longer? I mean they are no longer trying to cheat death and losing. They are able to have their cake and eat it because now they can go to a shoot up site and bang all the dope they want because there are nurses ready with the narcan to save them.

This is just weird to me because I'm taking the position where I'm saying they need to be left to the risks they are taking.....dont remove the consequences of their choices, and you are arguing to protect them from the consequences.

You sure you know what they are doing at these sites?

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

You snort a line I'll snort a line honey

 

[Dove]

Here is a good one from Brand where he is addressing those struggling with addictions.

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

I'm an addict

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

I'm addicted to BOOBS!!!!!

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

I also fancy a fat lady butt

 

[Seamajor]

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[Dove]

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You told me you weren't going to share that!

:D

 

[Admin.]

I'm sick and tired of all these motherfucking Trannies!

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

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Dang it Gaymajor that's too big an ass

 

[Seamajor]

You told me you weren't going to share that!

:D

Dovey you are way prettier than that hog

 

[Seamajor]

Dang it Gaymajor that's too big an ass

No fat ass this big posts here.

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Dovey you are way prettier than that hog

Look at ya putting on that classic charm I bet Dove done dropped her panties

 

[Seamajor]

Dovey has too much class amigo

 

[Oliver Shagnasty]

Dovey has too much class amigo

But you're a classy fellow

 

[Dove]

Dovey has too much class amigo

Well......dont go ruining my good reputation now lol.

Thank you Sea :)

 

[Adam Hitler]

Do you have a small penis? You sound like someone God cheated you in that department...

Small dick... big gob!~

People would say on other forums... who is that character who blames the lefties for everything and I would return,... Oh, that is Aryan, you'll have to forgive him. His family jewels didn't develop very well and his gob is too big for his pink slippers!~

Don't you start obsessing over my cawk aswell, it's bad enough having Flynn and Aidsman doing it.

 

[Adam Hitler]

I wish women would walk around naked in my town it ain't fair

From what I've seen, it's usually gay men.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Fewer degenerates of your ilk, which is a very good thing.

Yes yes, we all know you would much prefer to live in a city with streets covered in human shit, HIV infected syringes and garbage, while grown men prance around naked in front of young children at weekly fag pride parades, than live somewhere clean, safe and full of *shock GASP* right wing Conservative White folks.

Although it's interesting to note that you chose to flee the far left utopia of Commiefornia and claim asylum in Portugal.

A tad hypocritical to say the least...

Same applies to Semenmajor. Supposedly San Fagdisco is amazing, yet he hasn't lived there in years. LOL

 

[Adam Hitler]

I'm sick and tired of all these motherfucking Trannies!

Don't let your, errr "wife" hear that, you'll hurt his feelings.

 

[Admin.]

Don't let your, errr "wife" hear that, you'll hurt his feelings.

Since you've worn out your old one, this might be a good replacement

You're so much calmer when you're plugged.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Only in Oregon.....

 

[Lily]

Since you've worn out your old one, this might be a good replacement

You're so much calmer when you're plugged.

"Hardly used"...lmao...and ewwwwwwwwwwwww at the same time.