I Could Not Agree More With Mr Carville

[Holliday1881]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Please show me a time and a group that was "liberal" and shared power in the US. Thanks.

 

[Joe]

Speaking of wokeness... The mother of the transvestite rapist in Loudoun County, Virginia tries to blame the two different girls for getting raped instead of her mentally ill transvestite son who raped them.

...and yet we're not teaching kids about the possible dangers of the World anymore & so when they get older they become susceptible & sucked in by predators like that. Other cultures are much less trusting yanno.

 

[Dove]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

 

[Dove]

Speaking of wokeness... The mother of the transvestite rapist in Loudoun County, Virginia tries to blame the two different girls for getting raped instead of her mentally ill transvestite son who raped them.

...and yet we're not teaching kids about the possible dangers of the World anymore & so when they get older they become susceptible & sucked in by predators like that. Other cultures are much less trusting yanno.

People most certainly do teach thier kids about predators

Joe the school literally tried to rug sweep that student anally raping the other.

 

[Holliday1881]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Please show me a time and a group that was "liberal" and shared power in the US. Thanks.

People at this time aren't in anything but small groups able to live by the pure ideals - so there are always elements of conservatism.
But let's abandoned the goals of the US Constitution because the founders themselves were flawed men and couldn't even live fully by the principles agreed upon.

. Work in progress, Oak.
Maybe let's agree that pure self interest, selfishness (conservatism) is the bane of human existence.

 

[Lily]

Speaking of wokeness... The mother of the transvestite rapist in Loudoun County, Virginia tries to blame the two different girls for getting raped instead of her mentally ill transvestite son who raped them.

...and yet we're not teaching kids about the possible dangers of the World anymore & so when they get older they become susceptible & sucked in by predators like that. Other cultures are much less trusting yanno.

Perhaps a topic for another thread. I hope you can be more focused than Overdone. He's just a fuckhead.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Please show me a time and a group that was "liberal" and shared power in the US. Thanks.

People at this time aren't in anything but small groups able to live by the pure ideals.
But let's abandoned the goals of the US Constitution because the founders themselves were flawed men and couldn't even live fully by the principles agreed upon.

. Work in progress, Oak.
Maybe let's agree that pure self interest, selfishness (conservatism) is the bane of human existence.

The founders were flawed, but I'm not talking about the founders.

I'm talking about the 250 years since then. When exactly were/are the PEOPLE, ALL the people going to benefit from these ideals? If you haven't noticed, some groups, especially black Americans are continuously disenfranchised and marginalized. Yes, it is a work in progress, but we can't ask people to keep waiting while the majority, catches up, can we?

I don't think saying "I'm tired of this shit" makes them the selfish and greedy. How about those that have held the power for 250 years and refuse to share? What does that make them?

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

 

[Lokmar]

Speaking of wokeness... The mother of the transvestite rapist in Loudoun County, Virginia tries to blame the two different girls for getting raped instead of her mentally ill transvestite son who raped them.

That cunt should be burned at the stake along with her kid.

Is that an example of the charity, tolerance and cooperation you preach?

Always interesting to hear the violent ravings of the religious-right.

WTF? I've preached no such thing. God says execute people like this. Oh, and people like you to teach good is evil and evil is good.

 

[Holliday1881]

I'm talking about the 250 years since then. When exactly were/are the PEOPLE, ALL the people going to benefit from these ideals?

You want me to guess - I'd say at least 100K years - probably longer.

How about those that have held the power for 250 years and refuse to share? What does that make them?

Selfish, greedy mutherfuckers aka conservatives.

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

Nah - that's happened so many times and when they get there, show me where they haven't ultimately become the non-power sharer.
Again - the true motivator is selfishness and greed - conservatism.

I've writ it before:
One fine day conservatism will be swept away, and there will be a new Heaven, and a new Earth.

 

[Lily]

I'm talking about the 250 years since then. When exactly were/are the PEOPLE, ALL the people going to benefit from these ideals?

You want me to guess - I'd say at least 100K years - probably longer.

How about those that have held the power for 250 years and refuse to share? What does that make them?

Selfish, greedy mutherfuckers aka conservatives.

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

Nah - that's happened so many times and when they get there, show me where they haven't ultimately become the non-power sharer.
Again - the true motivator is selfishness and greed - conservatism.

I've writ it before:
One fine day conservatism will be swept away, and there will be a new Heaven, and a new Earth.

We'll have to agree to disagree on all of it. Until power is shared, it is an illiberal illusion this place we call the US. Not so united at all...

 

[Holliday1881]

Until power is shared, it is an illiberal illusion this place

I wasn't kidding. 100K years when conservatism is swept aside...
..a new heaven and earth, and those who refuse, or are incapable of maturing out of it
will be consigned (along with lokmerde) to the mythical Lake of Fire.

 

[Lokmar]

Until power is shared, it is an illiberal illusion this place

I wasn't kidding. 100K years when conservatism is swept aside...
..a new heaven and earth, and those who refuse, or are incapable of maturing out of it
will be consigned (along with lokmerde) to the mythical Lake of Fire.

enjoy hell, faggit lover.

 

[Joe]

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

I think the Neoconservatives under George W Bush tried to do exactly that. But the US economy just about imploded during the 2008 financial crisis.

They can't starve the bottom 90% of the population to the point where there's no liquidity left in the economy otherwise it will collapse.

Even a free market/free enterprise economy has to give the lower classes some marbles to play with. Otherwise there is no game.

 

[Lily]

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

I think the Neoconservatives under George W Bush tried to do exactly that. But the US economy just about imploded during the 2008 financial crisis.

They can't starve the bottom 90% of the population to the point where there's no liquidity left in the economy otherwise it will collapse.

Even a free market/free enterprise economy has to give the lower classes some marbles to play with. Otherwise there is no game.

And how is Trumpism any different?

 

[Oerdin]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

No, I don't, idiot.

 

[Holliday1881]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

Oh, btw - haven't you heard?
It isn't a democracy.....
it's.......a reeePUBlick. LoLz.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

Oh, btw - haven't you heard?
It isn't a democracy.....
it's.......a reeePUBlick. LoLz.

Score!

 

[Holliday1881]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

Oh, btw - haven't you heard?
It isn't a democracy.....
it's.......a reeePUBlick. LoLz.

Score!

"Score!" - You're pal, TheBigDog

Most wouldn't know with whom that originated.
Strange thing I had only last week thought about that and there is was...forget who had used it.

 

[Dove]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

Oh, btw - haven't you heard?
It isn't a democracy.....
it's.......a reeePUBlick. LoLz.

You really are an idiot.

O knows we are a Republic. Do you even know what these words mean?

 

[Holliday1881]

LoLz.....

 

[Dove]

I'm talking about the 250 years since then. When exactly were/are the PEOPLE, ALL the people going to benefit from these ideals?

You want me to guess - I'd say at least 100K years - probably longer.

How about those that have held the power for 250 years and refuse to share? What does that make them?

Selfish, greedy mutherfuckers aka conservatives.

It makes for the extremists that want to grab the power away.

Nah - that's happened so many times and when they get there, show me where they haven't ultimately become the non-power sharer.
Again - the true motivator is selfishness and greed - conservatism.

I've writ it before:
One fine day conservatism will be swept away, and there will be a new Heaven, and a new Earth.

You dont even know what conservatives ARE. You think its some default for all religious people. That's why you are dumb enough to think Muslims are conservative JUST on the basis of being Muslim.

You are absolutely not a liberal. You are just an anti religious bigot who wants to see those who do not see the world your way wiped out. You are an authoritarian. Much like the same sort of anti religious dictators through history.

If you dont want to share a country with people who are not like you, go move to China where they imprison and murder Christian's and Muslims. And where they force medical interventions and where the punish dissent.

Stop trying to turn a free country into your secular left wing one party authoritarian state. I don't need your fucking permission to live. Or your fucking approval. Stop supporting government over reach into peoples lives and destroying the country with your smug and myopic useful idiot shit where if someone had the nerve to leave thier house....they lose thier RIGHT to defend themselves cuz "they shoulda stayed home".

 

[Dove]

LoLz.....

That's a no.

 

[Joe]

If you are okay with coercion and force of a vaccine, go sit in the corner with your Mengele cap on and stop pretending to be liberal.....Mr. "if I don't think you belong in a certain location, you dont have a right to defend yourself from attackers cuz you shoulda stayed home" authoritarian.

Interesting you should mention these vaccine mandates.

Ever since Merck announced the release of its COVID pill, Pfizer & Moderna's share prices dropped & now they're frantically pressuring governments to push a 3rd booster shot for their populations without adequate testing for safety.

I suppose they wanna rake in the profits while they can since their vaccines are a 'time sensitive' investment. Just goes to show what a money driven industry pharmaceuticals are.

They dont care about anyone except their profits.

 

[Lily]

Identity politics is the solution

I couldn't disagree more.

"Identity" politics wouldn't be an issue if the "liberals" power shared with all people under the "Big Tent", yanno?

I agree otherwise with James Carville. I don't believe in cancelling from our history, rather I believe in including others, many of whom have always been a part of it, in our history.

It's about including into the coalition rather than maintaining power with the same old group. That was Hillary Clinton's problem. By the time she ran, more was expected of her.

If they were Liberals then they would be sharing power. Since they are not, there's your proof they are conservatives.

Of course this is just mundane political talk, which describes nothing but the shadow of true causes of apparent inequity etc, but since even this rudimentary stuff is taxing for the majority anything more weighty is out of the question.

Wrong.

Worrying about who has and who shares "power" is the problem.

You're wrong. All groups should have a seat at the table because they all have concerns about how this country is run.

So you want to do away with democracy for the sake of wokeness. No, thank you.

Oh, btw - haven't you heard?
It isn't a democracy.....
it's.......a reeePUBlick. LoLz.

Score!

"Score!" - You're pal, TheBigDog

Most wouldn't know with whom that originated.
Strange thing I had only last week thought about that and there is was...forget who had used it.

Yep, he was my buddy, may he rest in eternal peace.

 

[Holliday1881]

If you are okay with coercion and force of a vaccine, go sit in the corner with your Mengele cap on and stop pretending to be liberal.....Mr. "if I don't think you belong in a certain location, you dont have a right to defend yourself from attackers cuz you shoulda stayed home" authoritarian.

Interesting you should mention these vaccine mandates.

Ever since Merck announced the release of its COVID pill, Pfizer & Moderna's share prices dropped & now they're frantically pressuring governments to push a 3rd booster shot for their populations without adequate testing for safety.

I suppose they wanna rake in the profits while they can since their vaccines are a 'time sensitive' investment. Just goes to show what a money driven industry pharmaceuticals are.

They dont care about anyone except their profits.

I think it's a true shame there were no FREEDUMB! fighters around when Smallpox and Polio vaccines were being forced on the public. We could still have those really cool diseases around today.

 

[Lily]

If you are okay with coercion and force of a vaccine, go sit in the corner with your Mengele cap on and stop pretending to be liberal.....Mr. "if I don't think you belong in a certain location, you dont have a right to defend yourself from attackers cuz you shoulda stayed home" authoritarian.

Interesting you should mention these vaccine mandates.

Ever since Merck announced the release of its COVID pill, Pfizer & Moderna's share prices dropped & now they're frantically pressuring governments to push a 3rd booster shot for their populations without adequate testing for safety.

I suppose they wanna rake in the profits while they can since their vaccines are a 'time sensitive' investment. Just goes to show what a money driven industry pharmaceuticals are.

They dont care about anyone except their profits.

I think it's a true shame there were no FREEDUMB! fighters around when Smallpox and Polio vaccines were being forced on the public. We could still have those really cool diseases around today.

nyah...they made us miss out on so much, damn LIBS nyah...

 

[Holliday1881]

If you are okay with coercion and force of a vaccine, go sit in the corner with your Mengele cap on and stop pretending to be liberal.....Mr. "if I don't think you belong in a certain location, you dont have a right to defend yourself from attackers cuz you shoulda stayed home" authoritarian.

Interesting you should mention these vaccine mandates.

Ever since Merck announced the release of its COVID pill, Pfizer & Moderna's share prices dropped & now they're frantically pressuring governments to push a 3rd booster shot for their populations without adequate testing for safety.

I suppose they wanna rake in the profits while they can since their vaccines are a 'time sensitive' investment. Just goes to show what a money driven industry pharmaceuticals are.

They dont care about anyone except their profits.

I think it's a true shame there were no FREEDUMB! fighters around when Smallpox and Polio vaccines were being forced on the public. We could still have those really cool diseases around today.

nyah...they made us miss out on so much, damn LIBS nyah...

What I don't understand though is how those vaccines drove off the evil spirits.
.Perhaps I'll write to the Vatican for answers.