If you could go back and talk to your 18 year old self, what 3 words would you utter?

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.
 
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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
 

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That's what I'd say to my 18yo self... (see thread title)
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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.

That's it.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored
 
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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

I can't hear her for the roar of Oak in her. She's hooked.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

You know it's the typical dating narrative.

I've always enjoyed trolling relationship venues ranging from "casual dating" to marriage and to affairs.

Past several years since the "red pill"/mgtow shit started up, the narrative around dating has become very dehumanizing and transactional. And it goes kinda both ways.

Going on all that.....I'm completely disqualified from dating. I'm past 35. I have kids. Been divorced. I have mental illness. I'm all kinds of fucked up and have no "market value" lol.

And to hear these guys talk, I may as well go curl up and die because of it. Like my life is completely devoid of value now because I'm old as fuck and "damaged goods". Its really incredible the sociopathic level of entitlement you see today. They should just go directly to jail order brides.

My single friends are exhausting in their dating pursuits and their need to discuss and analyze the fuck of it.

People are crazy.

Freud isnt like this at all. He trolls much like I do regarding the whole market value shit.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

I can't hear her for the roar of Oak in her. She's hooked.

OK, then, lilroar.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

Ah, cute. Did you and Oak bury the hatchet?
 
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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

Ah, cute. Did you and Oak bury the hatchet?

Everything about you is Oak. You're a troubled person.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

Ah, cute. Did you and Oak bury the hatchet?

Everything about you is Oak. You're a troubled person.

LMAO
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Everyone and everything has a market value...

I could sell you to a glue factory for at least 2 bits.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I hate the game AND the peple who are willing to play it. It's barbaric.
 

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It's such a bummer how it's so normalized for people to dehumanize eachother right down to things like body parts and earning potential.

No one wants partners. They want servants.

I would tell myself to not get married as well.

My marriage isn't like that. We're actual partners and discuss all major decisions with one another. We don't micromanage the minor decisions each other makes either. I would say I feel blessed, but I didn't settle down until I found a man that didn't need his ego stroked constantly or feel threatened by my intellect. A man that saw the benefit to having a like-minded partner and how it benefits the family.

So, he's free to watch Fox?

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, what? I guess you're bored and have nothing of any value to post.
she doesn't have anything of value to post even when she's not bored

Ah, cute. Did you and Oak bury the hatchet?

Everything about you is Oak. You're a troubled person.

Spoken like a true narcissist. No, Oak. It's only about you when I am talking to you or about you. 99.999% of my time has absolutely nothing to do with you, but all you can think about is me/me/me, so you think everyone else is doing the same.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I can easily tell which men do not have their shit together by which ones come sniffing around my trainwreck ass.

No joke.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I can easily tell which men do not have their shit together by which ones come sniffing around my trainwreck ass.

No joke.

***sniff***

Sorry.. ;)
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I can easily tell which men do not have their shit together by which ones come sniffing around my trainwreck ass.

No joke.

***sniff***

Sorry.. ;)

We are compatible levels of trainwreck though ♡
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.



I’ve never been attracted to younger men. I have a son in his twenties so that would be gross.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I can easily tell which men do not have their shit together by which ones come sniffing around my trainwreck ass.

No joke.

***sniff***

Sorry.. ;)

We are compatible levels of trainwreck though ♡


We have the same upbringing...

Ted Nugent, Kid Rock... dunes, and a helluva after party and headache...
 

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I teach my daughters to stay away from older men EVEN when they enter adulthood.

Men in their 40s want women in their 20s for selfish, superficial reasons. They like the young, inexperienced malleable mind that hasnt been jaded by exactly those men in their 40s that targeted women in their 20s.

You guys helped make us what we are today - I'm just sayin.

My mother had this much older sugar daddy. He had money. He started hanging around her family when I was 14. We called him Mr. Slick. When I was 14 mom was 32......but the women of my family always look young. It's actually a sort of cumbersome curse.

So Mr. Slick kinda swooned over us. It was a family of goofy women. My grandma and her sister(my great aunt) who provided me with stability and care and my mother who was in and out and had her issues. Her and I were always more like sisters with me taking the roll of the mother hen big sister.

So this guy would take me out with him and my mom frequently. Started taking a sort of fatherly roll. I didn't know at the time he was paying for my ballet training and giving my grandmother money to take care of me and extra for herself. My grandma was a proud woman but accepted this believing the man wanted to take a father roll in my life and she SO BADLY wanted me to have that. He did teach me a lot of stuff.

Well when I turned 18 and I graduated HS, he wanted to take me out just me and him to dinner to celebrate my graduation. He always went to upscale restaurants and wanted me to dress up. So I did.

So he gave me alcohol and started propositioning me. Not for sex. But just for being some sort of eye candy but he did tell me he wanted my "ass". He offered to provide me with my own unfettered access to a bank account, a car, and to pay for me to get a degree in business(it had to be a business degree).

It was so awkward. I kept bringing up my mom....he told me he would "handle" that. It was awful. I did my best to get through the dinner and get home.

I was honestly devastated. And I learned real quick at that men are not friends. I had a very negative view of men for a long time because of him AND my mothers disgusting husband.

So when I read or hear men talk about "market value" or being able to "get" younger women.....it really just makes me sad for my daughters and I hope they never are made to feel as devalued and worthless as I was made to feel when the older men I looked up to and trusted changed when I became "legal".

It's almost a relief to get older and it's easier to weed out the people who really care about you as a human being and those who not looking at you as some form of goods they want to use to serve themselves. I get really put off and creeped out by people preoccupied with something like youth. I think its gross for women, as well.

To me it's a sure sign of a person who wants someone easier to manipulate and control. And make themselves look like hot shit.

I know there age gap relationships that happen organically and genuinely. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people fixated on age. It's a dehumanizing mindset. I also think its selfish because people in their 20s are gonna want to build a life with someone and have a family. Something that people in their 40s are typically passed. By the 40s most people have kids already and been divorced at least once.
 

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Don’t get married

Probably the worst advice ever for a woman. Truly a woman has diminishing market value the older she gets. Her best chance is to nab a quality guy when she is young, beautiful, and has fertility. If she fails this she is in for a lifetime of sorrow and regrete.

O .....my friend.

Marriage is more beneficial for men. Unmarried women actually do better. Mentally.....emotionally....physically.

And the fact men look at us and see "goods" and "market value" just MIGHT be one of the reasons why, yanno.

I mean that's trafficking language.

If I need "market value" to be appealing.....meh fuck that. A man worthy of my mental and emotional health will be totally fine with my tube sock tits and various other signs of perfectly natural aging and my mouthiness.

Yeah, that "market value" comment could not be more misogynistic with serious overtones of the sex trafficking industry. But, I have always said that Arms Dealer Brat is a lowlife, haven't I? That post is a prime example. So incredibly creepy.

Sorry that the truth hurts but it is still the truth. The reality is guys who have it together are in short supply so women want them. That is why men in their 30's and 40's have no problems getting women in their 20's. Don't hate the player just hate the game.

I can easily tell which men do not have their shit together by which ones come sniffing around my trainwreck ass.

No joke.

You have a partner so you are well ahead and have something to build on there. Seriously, in the game of life having a good marriage puts someone two steps ahead as well as is a firm foundation to build upon. If you aren't yet where you want to be, no problem, just make a plan on how you are going to work yourself to where you want to be. I am a firm believer that anyone can make it in America if they work hard, have a plan, and set a budget.
 

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For the record my wife and I are the same age and have known each other since we weren19 though we didn't get back together and get married until many years later.

Also, while some men might be predatory or controlling I honestly doubt that describes the majority or anything close to the majority. Most men like younger women simply because they are more beautiful and lmare less likely to have baggage such as children. Most guys are simple on this topic and it just isn't that complex.