Kudos to JD Vance!

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At this point, Vance probably doesn't care if Trump loses.

This election campaign gave him exposure and has helped him raise his profile.

I suspect his real aspiration is to wield power as a Senator & graduate to a Senior role in the Senate. LIke Mitt Romney.

If not that, then a seat on the USSC.

This VP running mate role is probably just a stepping stone for him.

Vance doesn't particularly like being the VP running mate, he's just in there for the ride. And if Trump loses, Vance can claim the guy was a nut job anyways.
 
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What im really saying @Lily is that unlike Trump, Vance doesn't have anything to lose by losing this election. Because he can always go back to being Senator. But of course in Trump's situation he has a lot of legal troubles among them, staying outta jail.

I'm not making a value judgment about him whether I like the guy or not.

Just looking at the election from his standpoint.
 
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What im really saying @Lily is that unlike Trump, Vance doesn't have anything to lose by losing this election. Because he can always go back to being Senator.

I'm not making a value judgment about him whether I like the guy or not.

Just looking at the election from his standpoint.
Yes, he does.

He only took this position on the campaign to be able to get into the WH himself in 4 years.

I'm not worried, he is incredibly unlikeable.
 

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Yes, he does.

He only took this position on the campaign to be able to get into the WH himself in 4 years.

I'm not worried, he is incredibly unlikeable.
Whether a person likes or dislikes Vance apart from lack of appeal, he's just not a natural leader.

People trash Kamala and yet I cant see him being able to hold the US together. I think he wouldn't do well in a major crisis.
 

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Whether a person likes or dislikes Vance apart from lack of appeal, he's just not a natural leader.

People trash Kamala and yet I cant see him being able to hold the US together. I think he wouldn't do well in a major crisis.
People trash Kamala because she's a woman.

I really think JD Vance is closeted myself.
 

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People trash Kamala because she's a woman.

I really think JD Vance is closeted myself.
Not sure.

But I think she would do better than Vance as President.

Aside from leadership qualities any leader be it man or woman needs to have sufficient appeal and empathy to connect with their citizens

Vance just does not connect that well.

I know a lot of people dont like him but in a way I kinda feel sorry for him because he reminds me of the shy kid in high school who runs for class President but nobody likes him. He tries real hard but he just doesn't have it.

While Kamala certainly has her share of haters, she also has a significant following who genuinely like her.

Even Trump said the other day that she was nice to him on the phone after the latest assassination attempt on his life.
 

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Not sure.

But I think she would do better than Vance as President.

Aside from leadership qualities any leader be it man or woman needs to have sufficient appeal and empathy to connect with their citizens

Vance just does not connect that well.

I know a lot of people dont like him but in a way I kinda feel sorry for him because he reminds me of the shy kid in high school who runs for class President but nobody likes him. He tries real hard but he just doesn't have it.

While Kamala certainly has her share of haters, she also has a significant following who genuinely like her.

Even Trump said the other day that she was nice to him on the phone after the latest assassination attempt on his life.

He's not liked because he's an extremist and clearly despises women. He also says God awful things and lies. He says he'll make things up.
 

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He's not liked because he's an extremist and clearly despises women. He also says God awful things and lies. He says he'll make things up.
Well so is Trump.

But his followers genuinely love him.
Heck he even has a groupie in Laura Loomer who adores him.

The same cannot be said for Vance.
Hes just not popular or loved...by anyone.

That's why he shouldn't ever be President. Otherwise he'll end up becoming the Herbert Hoover of his time.

Incidentally Hoover actually tried hard to improve the conditions of the Great Depression and he began a New Deal of his own. But like Vance he had negative personality traits which made him unsuitable for office.