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Transitioning is real, that's why the word exists, derp, derpy, derp.
You hold onto those derps, because:

If gender is only a social construct, then it's unalterable by chemical injections and elective surgery.

So either gender is not a social construct, in which case physical alteration can change it, or:

It is a social construct, in which case those alterations have no effect, and transitioning isn't real.
 

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You hold onto those derps, because:

If gender is only a social construct, then it's unalterable by chemical injections and elective surgery.

So either gender is not a social construct, in which case physical alteration can change it, or:

It is a social construct, in which case those alterations have no effect, and transitioning isn't real.

What makes it "not real"?
 

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In order to 'transition' -- look up the word and follow along -- something goes from one state to another state.

But if gender isn't physical, then a physical alteration has no effect on it.

Huh? The whole concept of gender is that it is a social construct. If an individual sees themselves as a woman, they're already meeting the criteria.

They physical transition is simply an attempt to align the way the individual sees themselves with physical characteristics.
 

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@Courier Six , do you think that a man can transition into a woman?

No more than I think a mammal can transition into a reptile.

Unlike all the participants in this thread who are susceptible to falling for Young Earth Creationism, I actually do accept the theory of evolution.

Well, you did okay at first.

But then you mentioned the Theory of Evolution which is clearly irrelevant as The Theory of Evolution does not suggest that any one species can change into a different species in one generation. And we are talking about an individual transitioning in their lifetime from a man into a woman.

Saying something that is irrelevant just clouds discussions.


I will leave you people to "debate" this topic very poorly and illogically. None of you even seem to know what you are arguing.
 

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Huh? The whole concept of gender is that it is a social construct. If an individual sees themselves as a woman, they're already meeting the criteria.

They physical transition is simply an attempt to align the way the individual sees themselves with physical characteristics.
And you don't see how that's contradictory, do you. Why "align themselves with physical characteristics" if the physical characteristics have nothing to do with gender?

This is where your brain shorts out and you refuse to answer that question, of course.
 
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Huh? The whole concept of gender is that it is a social construct. If an individual sees themselves as a woman, they're already meeting the criteria.

They physical transition is simply an attempt to align the way the individual sees themselves with physical characteristics.
As opposed to "I know I'm a man, but if I pretend to be a woman than I can go into their bathrooms and changing rooms and molest them and assault them."

In any iteration that's more than a stretch, yet that's all the argument has been right along.
 

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But then you mentioned the Theory of Evolution which is clearly irrelevant as The Theory of Evolution does not suggest that any one species can change into a different species in one generation. And we are talking about an individual transitioning in their lifetime from a man into a woman.
And that was the point of mentioning it. Evolutionary biology doesn't allow for the transition from one species to another -- or from one sex to another.

Claims that either is possible are anti-scientific bullshit.
 

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But then you mentioned the Theory of Evolution which is clearly irrelevant as The Theory of Evolution does not suggest that any one species can change into a different species in one generation. And we are talking about an individual transitioning in their lifetime
Whuuudt? You transitioned from a little behbeh with a whole life of hope and possibilities ahead to a dullardly failure.
...and all in one lifetime.
 

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And you don't see how that's contradictory, do you. Why "align themselves with physical characteristics" if the physical characteristics have nothing to do with gender?

This is where your brain shorts out and you refuse to answer that question, of course.
@Courier Six I just want to apologize if I somehow inadvertently compelled you to say a discouraging word that triggers your deepest anxieties
 

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And that was the point of mentioning it. Evolutionary biology doesn't allow for the transition from one species to another -- or from one sex to another.

Claims that either is possible are anti-scientific bullshit.

Who here has claimed that upon transitioning that individuals born as males are becoming "women". I call them "transwomen", and will continue to do so, for a reason.

And most sane people aren't objecting to transwomen using a women's restroom.
 

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Well, you did okay at first.

But then you mentioned the Theory of Evolution which is clearly irrelevant as The Theory of Evolution does not suggest that any one species can change into a different species in one generation. And we are talking about an individual transitioning in their lifetime from a man into a woman.

Saying something that is irrelevant just clouds discussions.


I will leave you people to "debate" this topic very poorly and illogically. None of you even seem to know what you are arguing.
Christmas is right around the corner buddy. You don't want to run the risk of Santa putting you on the naughty list for being cheap do you? A small donation would go a long way with the old man.

 
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And that was the point of mentioning it. Evolutionary biology doesn't allow for the transition from one species to another -- or from one sex to another.

Claims that either is possible are anti-scientific bullshit.
Evolutionary biology has nothing to do with gender. That has nothing to do with this argument which is supposedly transwomen are sex criminals or whatever the fuck was stated. What the fuck is wrong with you?
 

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And that was the point of mentioning it. Evolutionary biology doesn't allow for the transition from one species to another -- or from one sex to another.

Claims that either is possible are anti-scientific bullshit.
So now your contention is males are a different species from females?

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