Let's Play A Game! Is this a man or a woman?

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Everyone, other than slaveholders, is opposed to slavery. Wanting to be free is universal.

Not everyone is opposed to the things that make your bunghole twitch.

Again, not the same.
And, once again, you either fail to grasp (or simply dodge) the underlying principle:

An objectionable thing doesn't have to happen directly to you in order to be objectionable.

Compulsory speech is objectionable. Using threat or force in order to make someone say what you want them to say is wrong.
 

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And, once again, you either fail to grasp (or simply dodge) the underlying principle:

An objectionable thing doesn't have to happen directly to you in order to be objectionable.

Compulsory speech is objectionable. Using threat or force in order to make someone say what you want them to say is wrong.
Be very careful with words around @Courier Six He is a very sensitive lad.

 

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Be very careful with words around @Courier Six He is a very sensitive lad.
Just a guy with a moral compass.

We'll see whether you suddenly pretend to have one, too, if the Christ-shouters get their way and put prayer back in schools. Bet you'll have a problem with compulsory speech, then, won'tcha.
 

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And, once again, you either fail to grasp (or simply dodge) the underlying principle:

An objectionable thing doesn't have to happen directly to you in order to be objectionable.

Compulsory speech is objectionable. Using threat or force in order to make someone say what you want them to say is wrong.

Well, if you're referring to your OPINION, sure, that's correct. You can have any opinion you like.

I am looking at this from a policy perspective.

There has to be a scale of urgency/importance about policy that is taken into consideration.

Now what you're not addressing is how often you try to move the goal posts. I would suggest you get wheels that are motorized, you're going to put your back out.

The thread is simply about addressing a set of pictures that jack was going to post and have people pick out whether they are women or transwomen.
 

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Yes I did.

I just thought I'd take a moment to shock you a bit - I happen to agree on some points re: transgenderism.
.Not entirely for the same reasons as you have necessarily, you being quite a superficial non-thinky person, and not that I would make prohibitions, but you did make me chuckle a little there.
 
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Since you refused to play the game, fuck right off with that bullshit.
 

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Well, if you're referring to your OPINION, sure, that's correct. You can have any opinion you like.

I am looking at this from a policy perspective.

There has to be a scale of urgency/importance about policy that is taken into consideration.

Now what you're not addressing is how often you try to move the goal posts. I would suggest you get wheels that are motorized, you're going to put your back out.

The thread is simply about addressing a set of pictures that jack was going to post and have people pick out whether they are women or transwomen.
Using different examples to explain a single principle doesn't shift the goalposts one millimeter. If you don't like the use of multiple example scenarios, quit pretending you didn't get the point the first time.
 

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Using different examples to explain a single principle doesn't shift the goalposts one millimeter. If you don't like the use of multiple example scenarios, quit pretending you didn't get the point the first time.

I didn't pretend not to understand. I was seeking out clarification. You can be opposed to the moon, for all I care...

What you don't get to decide, for everyone else, is whether or not we return to the moon.
 
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Clearly, I'm goofing on Anjelica Huston 'cause she's got a face like a horse. :LOL3:
Clearly the idea of a man transitioning into a woman and living her life as one offends you for some reason. With real transwomen (as opposed to obvious crossdressers like Loktar, for example) you really would never know. What if you met a woman you really liked and hung out with? That liked you as well? What if she was a man that transitioned successfully and never told you? That would suit your definition of "not putting it in your face". The point is gender is not biological sex, and when it comes to gender you often can't "tell".
 

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Clearly the idea of a man transitioning into a woman and living her life as one offends you for some reason. With real transwomen (as opposed to obvious crossdressers like Loktar, for example) you really would never know.
I've demonstrated, with multiple photographic examples, that that's wishful thinking. Your 'example' was an actual woman.
 
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I've demonstrated, with multiple photographic examples, that that's wishful thinking. Your 'example' was an actual woman.
That was one of 15 pictures I was going to post. Stop bullshitting me already. You wouldn't play honestly, you don't get to play deceptively.
 

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It seems to me that an unstated, yet clearly embedded argument, is that if I can't tell...then she's a woman, and I would probably fuck her given the chance.
Projecting your own wishful thinking onto someone else is just one more in the many flavors of dishonest rhetoric you rely on, isn't it.

One thing you can't credibly accuse me of is subtlety. If I mean it, I say it. So if I didn't say it, your yearning to say it 'for me' resides with you alone.
 

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Projecting your own wishful thinking onto someone else is just one more in the many flavors of dishonest rhetoric you rely on, isn't it.

One thing you can't credibly accuse me of is subtlety. If I mean it, I say it. So if I didn't say it, your yearning to say it 'for me' resides with you alone.

My wishful thinking?

Why would I wish that? In your answer, make it make sense. You've been flailing all morning. Here's your chance to redeem yourself.