Not Enough Migrants Arriving To The Uk To Keep Pay Down!!

[Holliday1881]

. A Liberal is not anything like a commie.

They're both leftists dumb ass, it's just that one is more extreme and radical than the other.

I see - So a system that affords freedoms and liberties to individuals,
representative government through democracy (one person one vote)
private ownership of property and business is like communism?

Really?

 

[Holliday1881]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

 

[Adam Hitler]

. A Liberal is not anything like a commie.

They're both leftists dumb ass, it's just that one is more extreme and radical than the other.

I see - So a system that affords freedoms and liberties to individuals,
representative government through democracy (one person one vote)
private ownership of property and business is like communism?

Really?

Both ideologies are rooted in Marxism and oppose Capitalism. Communism is more authoritarian than liberalism, but modern day Communists and liberals still share a similar worldview.

 

[Adam Hitler]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

 

[Holliday1881]

Both ideologies are rooted in Marxism and oppose Capitalism

Liberalism gave birth to capitalism, FairyAnn.
Please learn to read.
Never heard of John Locke apparently.

Every word of The Declaration of Independence and The US Constitution is Liberalism,
and opposed to communism - which really is just another form of monarchy as practiced.

 

[Holliday1881]

So you're implying

Link?

 

[Adam Hitler]

Oh ok, is it time for your obtuse, willful ignorance routine already?

 

[Omnipotent]

Holiday supports the workers.

Except when the government forces them out of business with lock downs or when BLM burns them down, and job squashing regulations are good. Over taxing is good. And that 15 an hour minimum wage that will put workers out of business is good.

Other than that.....he totally supports the small percent of workers that hate Donald Trump(the guy who directly supported the workers).

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

The categories are, big business (like a banks and department stores), small business, (like an electrical repair shop and pharmacy) wage slaves that work in those businesses which tradional leftists concern themselves with, supporting with workers rights... once upon a time, wage slaves worked 16 hour days and only got Sunday off.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Both ideologies are rooted in Marxism and oppose Capitalism

Liberalism gave birth to capitalism, FairyAnn.
Please learn to read.
Never heard of John Locke apparently.

Every word of The Declaration of Independence and The US Constitution is Liberalism.

Liberalism in a traditional sense no longer exists, the purple haired SJW crowd hijacked the term years ago.

 

[Holliday1881]

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

There are worker owned businesses.
Bob's Red Mill, for example. Wonderful products.

Holiday supports the workers.

Except when the government forces them out of business with lock downs or when BLM burns them down, and job squashing regulations are good. Over taxing is good. And that 15 an hour minimum wage that will put workers out of business is good.

Other than that.....he totally supports the small percent of workers that hate Donald Trump(the guy who directly supported the workers).

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

The categories are, big business (like a banks and department stores), small business, (like an electrical repair shop and pharmacy) wage slaves that work in those businesses which tradional leftists concern themselves with, supporting with workers rights... once upon a time, wage slaves worked 16 hour days and only got Sunday off.

...and child labor - but horrible Liberals changed that.

 

[Holliday1881]

Both ideologies are rooted in Marxism and oppose Capitalism

Liberalism gave birth to capitalism, FairyAnn.
Please learn to read.
Never heard of John Locke apparently.

Every word of The Declaration of Independence and The US Constitution is Liberalism.

Liberalism in a traditional sense no longer exists, the purple haired SJW crowd hijacked the term years ago.

I disagree - you can not simply redefine terms/word meanings.
When people do things that are selfish/self serving and have no value to community (as trumptards do) then you could not simply call it Liberalism.
but - explain to me how dyeing your hair purple is like communism, or
freedom to choose a lifestyle which harms none of your countrymen is anti-Liberal.
Regulating and disallowing these things, demanding conformity, is what communism, and conservatism does.

 

[Joe]

This too yet they won't accept white workers from US and Canada!!! People need to wake the fuck up!

I'd give ya a hand ta make up the shortfall.

'cept yer Pandemic aint over yet, Shampain.

Canadians are still welcome, aren't they?

We have a Free Trade Agreement with you guys and the EU.

 

[Omnipotent]

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

There are worker owned businesses.
Bob's Red Mill, for example. Wonderful products.

Sub contractors like my husband who worked in the building industry for the better part of 40 yrs is a worker in their own business but don't have unions. No one cares if they work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.... or gets public paid holidays.

 

[Holliday1881]

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

There are worker owned businesses.
Bob's Red Mill, for example. Wonderful products.

Sub contractors like my husband who worked in the building industry for the better part of 40 yrs is a worker in their own business but don't have unions. No one cares if they work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week.... or gets public paid holidays.

As a business owner that's his choice.
..but can he force his workers to slave 20 hrs a day, 7 days a week for whatever nominal wage he decides is good enough for them, no matter their age?

 

[Admin.]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

You fire enough pellets into the air, some of them are bound to hit something!

 

[Holliday1881]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

You fire enough pellets into the air, some of them are bound to hit something!

He totally missed Bigly and his ilk stuffing gerbils up their ass.

 

[Dove]

Holiday supports the workers.

Except when the government forces them out of business with lock downs or when BLM burns them down, and job squashing regulations are good. Over taxing is good. And that 15 an hour minimum wage that will put workers out of business is good.

Other than that.....he totally supports the small percent of workers that hate Donald Trump(the guy who directly supported the workers).

Workers don't own businesses, they work for businesses.

The categories are, big business (like a banks and department stores), small business, (like an electrical repair shop and pharmacy) wage slaves that work in those businesses which tradional leftists concern themselves with, supporting with workers rights... once upon a time, wage slaves worked 16 hour days and only got Sunday off.

No Caskur. Workers do own businesses. Here in the US at least.

We got all kinds of small and local businesses. Well....had. I dont know what it's like in Austriala but here people start all kinds of businesses.

All the dems/and progs have done is help corporations by squashing loads of small business competition.

I know a lot of working business owners. Tradesman who started their own businesses. Et.

 

[Admin.]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

You fire enough pellets into the air, some of them are bound to hit something!

He totally missed Bigly and his ilk stuffing gerbils up their ass.

I truly believe Big Pudge could afford an 8 Br house, if it wasn't for his out of control Gerbil addiction.

 

[Holliday1881]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

You fire enough pellets into the air, some of them are bound to hit something!

He totally missed Bigly and his ilk stuffing gerbils up their ass.

I truly believe Big Pudge could afford an 8 Br house, if it wasn't for his out of control Gerbil addiction.

You know - he could save a lot if he'd switch to anacondas which he could hunt down for himself in the glades.

 

[Dove]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

He has no clue how the left and right behave. You cant tell him, either.

Home boy lives in his own world.

 

[Dove]

. A Liberal is not anything like a commie.

They're both leftists dumb ass, it's just that one is more extreme and radical than the other.

I see - So a system that affords freedoms and liberties to individuals,
representative government through democracy (one person one vote)
private ownership of property and business is like communism?

Really?

This is OUR positions ^ that's not the left.

Holy fuck. See? Its pointless talking to this idiot.

 

[Admin.]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

He has no clue how the left and right behave. You cant tell him, either.

Home boy lives in his own world.

Listen to Home School, Homes school knows things. (conspiratorial wink smiley)

 

[Dove]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

So you're implying that gender reassignment surgery, open borders, industrial scale levels of racial-mixing, the browning of the US and Europe and just about every other globohomo agenda is all a result of natural evolution, rather than an agenda which has been planned and carefully orchestrated by the ruling elite?

Sorry, but that's nonsense and you sound like a moronic shill.

You fire enough pellets into the air, some of them are bound to hit something!

He totally missed Bigly and his ilk stuffing gerbils up their ass.

I truly believe Big Pudge could afford an 8 Br house, if it wasn't for his out of control Gerbil addiction.

I think it would be hilarious if you and H started discussing your political positions.

The rest of us will just watch and try not to laugh too hard.

 

[Dove]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

He has no clue how the left and right behave. You cant tell him, either.

Home boy lives in his own world.

Listen to Home School, Homes school knows things.

Dont talk while you have dick in your mouth.

Its uncouth.

 

[Holliday1881]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Link?

 

[Dove]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

Can you not read? Please review past posts.
Nobody said anything about multiculturalism, whatever your simple minded def of that may be.
In the broadest sense I am not a fan. As a Liberal I believe common values is what makes a nation, and a nation strong - which also does not mean vilifying all others.
Capeesh?

I hear you exactly. I don't think Dovey hears you.

You're an original leftist concerned for workers rights. I get you.

I have tried to have rational and respectful conversations with this guy. He spews hatred, insults and has no grasp on reality.

You'll see how he contradicts himself and gets nasty with anyone who doesnt want the government micromanaging their life.

He is very much a leftists who wants to be seen as "nuetral" but he really isnt.

 

[Admin.]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

Can you not read? Please review past posts.
Nobody said anything about multiculturalism, whatever your simple minded def of that may be.
In the broadest sense I am not a fan. As a Liberal I believe common values is what makes a nation, and a nation strong - which also does not mean vilifying all others.
Capeesh?

I hear you exactly. I don't think Dovey hears you.

You're an original leftist concerned for workers rights. I get you.

I have tried to have rational and respectful conversations with this guy. He spews hatred, insults and has no grasp on reality.

You'll see how he contradicts himself and gets nasty with anyone who doesnt want the government micromanaging their life.

He is very much a leftists who wants to be seen as "nuetral" but he really isnt.

And she's off, watch Chatty Cathy pile on the word count, watcher her go!

 

[Dove]

The left to me is compromised of various different shades of shit. They all basically sing from the same hymn sheet and love immigration, whether it's a Commie, a Marxist, a liberal or whatever.

See - that's why people, thinking people, see you as insufferably stupid, FairyAnn.

Ok, so the kind of people who love open borders, multiculturalism etc aren't 'liberals' according to you? So what are they?

CONS!!!

H is VERY confused and very out of touch with the times.

Yeah, first time he said it I honestly thought he was trolling.

What are you having troubles with, FairyAnn?

Your muddying of the waters when it comes to how the left and right behave.

Left and right again.
Definitions, FairyAnn.
I use the terms conservative and Liberal, (and I coined the term "the One Party System" so people wouldn't be confused into believing that Dems and Repukes were somehow opposites in this)
but those characteristics only translate into politics for those who think everything is politics.
They represent a basic psychological and spiritual type. Conservatives being resistant to human evolution (not meaning Darwin) and Liberals being those who facilitate it.

What you see with trumptardianism is a perfect example - people attempting to hold on to the old order when it is clearly passing.

You support the monoparty.

You cannot name a single policy. You echo the opinions and statements of the monoparty.

Look at you.....trying to be us. Lmao. We see the garbage you have been bleating for over a year.

You are just a propagandized media junkie who goes against your own interests who has a vile hatred of people who dont buy into your bizzare and confused political beliefs.

 

[Dove]

See when I list policies and legislation I support, this asshole starts accusing me of lying and calling me names.

But when I ask him to back any of his hysterical corporate narrative claims about Trump with policies and legislation? He goes into some bizzare rationalizing about how the anti political class movement(maga) made him feel inside.

Or how he was told to feel at least.....since his unsupported opinions are just echoing all the mainstream twisted lies and blather.

If he truly supported workers, and truly cared about this country, he would be able to point to several policies and actions of these elected officials when asked. He doesnt do that. He just starts flinging partisan shit anytime he is pressed to back his position.

And he has no idea what conservatives are. All I got out of him was they didnt like rock or weed back 50 years ago.

H doesn't realize how hard the landscape shifted left, and he is clinging hard to the definitions from decades ago that really do not apply to modern day.

I would definately call myself an authentic, classical liberal. And that's based on what that position WAS. I align with those beliefs. Today that looks more right leaning libertarian.

Hs opinions that he has echoed heard regarding Trump and Trump supporters isnt rooted in reality and is the monoparty corporate smear campaign narrative. If I ever found myself in agreement with establishment Republicans like Bush and Romney or the Democrats.....I'd really have to pull all that apart or assume its monoparty lies and keep a hawk eye on that fine print.

Since H is an "authentic liberal" who values our Constitutional individual rights, he needs to be opposing and highly concerned about the direct attacks on our Ammendments occurring right now. He is way more angry about Trump and cant offer a single substantial reason why.

While the monoparty goes full blown Russia and drops more money into spying on Americans and loosening the definition of domestic terror to "anti government sentiment".....when they jail people from one political side longer for lesser crimes while bailing out left wing rioters....THATS Putanism. And Putan even pointed it out.

We can give direct examples to support our positions. All these wackjobs do is blather and throw insults.