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Is it possible to be reinfected? That’s what my boss said but I don’t know if he heard it from an actual doctor.

If that’s the case, put us on lockdown. Cuz everyone has this crap.
Yes, it’s very likely that one will be reinfected. However if one has natural immunisation, you may not show symptoms or even realise that you are experiencing another bout of Covid. I’m always here to help with the bigger questions. I am your BF rock!
 

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Ivermectin not approved for use in Japan.
Unproven and considered unsafe for the treatment of Covid 19.

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"Japan still does NOT allow Ivermectin to be used to treat or prevent COVID-19."

Oh and PS: Ivermectin still not the same as Pfizer and Merck remedies as cons here have claimed..

There was a lot of bad info in that link, H.

I think I've said a few times that it's not approved as a treatment for Covid by any governments because there just isnt enough data to support that.

That does not mean absolutely no doctors are using it in early/mild covid infections.

What part of my statement is confusing? And WHY is this such a political thing for you? You are literally treating this topic like its some partisan platform and that medicine is handled by government and doctors dont actually practice medicine, they just follow gov orders.

Anyway here is this part(a few parts were just bad info, claiming ivermectin isnt 100 percent safe and acting like there isnt adequate safety info on the drug is false and misleading. There isnt a single pharmaceutical on the planet that is 100 percent safe. None of is 100 percent safe....literally nothing a doctor does is free of risk. This is individuals should have the final say in their care)

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"On 21 February 2021, the Japanese Health Ministry
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against importing ivermectin for use against COVID-19.

The Health Ministry warned that even if people are taking ivermectin at their own risks, its side effects may not be covered by government relief"

Kinda odd to have that position if no one is getting and taking ivermectin. Its definately not over the counter. If you have it, it's because a doctor gave it to you.

They havent approved it is as treatment for Covid, and they "warn" against it because evidently they dont have the same info on this pharmaceutical that has been on the W.H.Os list of essential meds for a few decades. But that doesnt mean doctors are not giving it to anyone.

You guys really need to try to remove your political biases from this topic. Most treatment advancements were discovered via off label use of already existing meds. Its fucked up how fast you guys decide a med is garbage because your media slammed it and told you to associate it with your political opposition.

Doctors should be the ones practicing medicine and be supported as they do it. Js.

The only reason you guys are touchy and bitchy about this is because you've politicized this. And you should be ashamed of that....not be tripling down on it trying to prove people wrong because you think this is some politcs argument.

It's all fun and games until you are the one on the receiving end of politicized medical care and you learn the hard way why the government and politics do not belong in medicine.
 

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Look what Mexico and India are giving out to citizens.



It's ridiculous how US dems/progs approach this, isnt it? And how they talk about "the science" as if science is some bible and not a process. Science is a tool, a process. Medicine is constantly changing. That's why it's called a "practice".

I've watched them slam possible treatments on the basis that "there isnt enough data, so that shouldnt be used"

Like are they insane? It's a novel virus....its only been infecting humans for a few years. Nothing has a ton of data yet. We get that data by using the meds.

We should be using every single possible treatment. Politcs are just hateful and have no regard for humanity and have no compassion. People with a political motive wont admit when they are wrong even. It just doesnt belong in medicine. A lot of harm is done when politcs enmeshes with anything medical.

When my mother in law was given ivermectin....AND the hydroxy combo....along with a bunch of vitamins and supplements, her doctor explained to her that it wasnt yet well established that it works. So she knew that. Doctors will tell you this when they offer it to you. You are free to reject it. She was also given monoclonal antibodies.

What these partisan hacks do not understand about medicine and treating sick and frightened people is the humanity. Why wouldnt you offer something that has good and established safety data(that is safe for that patient) and MAY help?

With everything else, doctors will often give meds and shift them around until they find the right combo and dosage of meds for THAT patient. And they use off label all the time. Like the use of atarax for anxiety when it's a anti histamine....or the use of viagra for erectile dysfunction when it's a cardiac med.

But all of a sudden medicine is now partisan and these people have ignorant and partisan expectations about meds. Dems/progs will slam a med way too soon because of their media and than as a result others on the other end decide that med must be a miracle "cure" for Covid and will only go for that if they get sick.

Its fucking ridiculous. All the same people yammering about "teh right" not listening to "experts" are the same people that will post leftwing opinion articles that are every bit as garbage as any right wing one claiming the opposite. I wonder how many people made their treatment decisions based on politcs and refused meds because of it.

I would bet even the most leftiest dem/prog would take the iver if they were diagnosed and offered it and still slam it on the internet. They are that level assholes.

These people want the government in control....on a federal level....of the medical feild. Dictating how your doctor can treat you.
 
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Okay, so let's recap, with apologies to the OP for wrecking her thread which should have ended with my fine answer to the question she posed in reply (post)#3.

1) I answered the question re: can a person be reinfected with Covid19.
Answer - Yes.

2) certain propaganda loving conservatives started off topic discussions fraught with bs and lies - below listed.
2a) Ivermectin is routinely used to treat Covid19 in Japan. No - it isn't. No one said it isn't used, but that the use is unsanctioned. I suppose like here in the States any drug on the market can be used to treat any ailment, but that does not mean that it is widely (routinely) used, simply because some people prescribe/treat with it, or self medicate using it. I suppose one might say Fish Tablet Hydroxychloroquine, and orally administered bleach are also routinely used, just not in any reputable medical setting.
..and as far as I'm concerned people are free to experiment with and in their own bodies as they choose.
I am a proponent of physicians healing themselves, not that one can not recount stories of researchers gulping down Cobalt solutions and killing themselves outright.
Those who know my views know how much and for how long - and why (@Joe)* I have despised the medical establishment (AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma - and their government allies and enablers), yet that is not to say they are always wrong about everything in their recommendations to allopathic medical professionals, or that the judicious use of recommended pharmaceuticals is always a poor choice.

3) John Campbell is not a Medical Dr, retired or otherwise. He's a nurse, and I gather at least one who can hold a job and actually has professional standing. He is not a retired DR as one local contardian laughably claimed - unless he retired from philosophizing.

4) The OSHA Temporary Standard shot down by the SCOTUS was not a mandate (as claimed by local contard liars) that all employees in large businesses MUST be vaccinated. The proposed was a choice (why do conservative hate choice?) to iyther vaxx or to mask and test.



PS: * @Joe - I know how much you love the topic and didn't want you to miss out on an opportunity to comment.
 
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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"
So you're a racist porn addict? What's that like?
I just knew you fools would start your shit in this thread, wise up or your comments will go...

As if you fools don't do the same thing in every single thread that could ever remotely be politicized. Give me a break.
 

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Gee Oerdin, you are flailing most desperately this morning!


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You know - it is totally remarkable that these conservatives ranted and raved that vaccines were not properly trialed, and no one should take the poison, but they are willing to take a drug on which no conclusive study has been performed.
I will restate my opinion that if they want to take it, take it - but any claim that it is safe and effective is bullshit on the evidence.
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"
So you're a racist porn addict? What's that like?
I just knew you fools would start your shit in this thread, wise up or your comments will go...

As if you fools don't do the same thing in every single thread that could ever remotely be politicized. Give me a break.
Post proof or STFU I NEVER start politics in general, NEVER! Skudbook!
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"
So you're a racist porn addict? What's that like?
I just knew you fools would start your shit in this thread, wise up or your comments will go...

As if you fools don't do the same thing in every single thread that could ever remotely be politicized. Give me a break.
Post proof or STFU I NEVER start politics in general, NEVER! Skudbook!
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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"
So you're a racist porn addict? What's that like?
I just knew you fools would start your shit in this thread, wise up or your comments will go...

As if you fools don't do the same thing in every single thread that could ever remotely be politicized. Give me a break.
Post proof or STFU I NEVER start politics in general, NEVER! Skudbook!

I don't know whether you do or not (I don't really know what you mean by "start"), but I do know Dove, Odorous, Strapon, McCrackhead, Lokbrain, Aryana, Reggie, and many others do it all the damn time.
 

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"home"??? He's not fuckin welcome here and he knows it yet the weasel's still sniffing around, won't last long though... If you think that a PLEASE ASS BOX ME! net cop who cost people image host accounts due to his cry baby revenge tactics deserves to be welcomed back anywhere then you're completely delusional... Hey, let's just forget about all that since he says fuck Trump... He was CAUGHT on websites with reports of kiddie porn before any of you start and that is a FACT that you cannot change...
 

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John Campbell is not a Medical Dr, retired or otherwise. He's a nurse, and I gather at least one who can hold a job and actually has professional standing. He is not a retired DR as one local contardian laughably claimed - unless he retired from philosophizing.

I looked this up.

According to Wiki:

"Campbell received a diploma in nursing from the University of London and Bachelor of Science in biology from the Open University. He subsequently earned a Master of Science in health science from the University of Lancaster and a Ph.D. in nursing education from the University of Bolton"


If true, that MSc makes him more qualified to discuss how chemicals and other compounds interact with human physiology than the vast majority of Medical Doctors. People like him do the research and they share the appropriate results with Medical Doctors who simply apply the knowledge when treating patients.

Medical Doctors do not do low-level research; that is not their area of expertise nor is it in their job description. (It is part of the reason I chuckled when I read the first post in this thread. People are so fuckin' clueless.)

I can give you analogies if you need. An electrical engineer who designs electric guitar pickups might not be able to play guitar, but he has a much deeper understanding of why certain pickups sound a certain way than a great guitarist (who is not an electrical engineer).

What would you say this? ""unless he retired from philosophizing"
 

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Hey, this just in.

Ivermectin not approved for use in Japan.
Unproven and considered unsafe for the treatment of Covid 19.

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"Japan still does NOT allow Ivermectin to be used to treat or prevent COVID-19."
Post needs more rando Youtube Vids, Doc.
I recall an interview with Jason Williams in which Jason went off on a reporter who had written that Jason was mailing it in during a playoff series. When Jason called the guy on the article he say something to the effect of "I have to write something." to which JW said "You don't gotta write nothin, homeboy."
I tried to find it - couldn't. Fuckin hilarious.

But that's these contard propagandists and youtubetards. They got to write something, because that's how they keep their retarded brainwashed audience coming back. The crazier the claim (and they'll believe anything without questioning as has been demonstrated here today) the more they believe it.




Your second paragraph put me in mind of The Perpetual Trump Campaign For The Presidency & Cash Grab.

Read something from Ann Coulter today - remember her, she got the Nosferatu look these days - even she is calling Trump a grifter who sold all his dumb assed supporters a used car with no engine or transmission. Says he's through. But you still got ones here can't see how wrong they were.


She always knew he was a hot mess. I think she thought he was a hot mess people like her could control. That ego cannot be controlled.

Now her attitude is "screw him". But yes, his followers are clueless. They're not even as smart as Coulter.
 

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Gee Oerdin, you are flailing most desperately this morning!


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You know - it is totally remarkable that these conservatives ranted and raved that vaccines were not properly trialed, and no one should take the poison, but they are willing to take a drug on which no conclusive study has been performed.
I will restate my opinion that if they want to take it, take it - but any claim that it is safe and effective is bullshit on the evidence.


Half of us are vaccinated you fucking idiot.
 

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@Bastard Factory - I asked a serious question and these fools are starting their shit in my thread.


I didn’t ask for google results. Did anyone hear it from a fucking doctor. Don’t come in my thread starting your political bullshit.
"I don't trust google, only guys in chat rooms that are racist porn addicts"
So you're a racist porn addict? What's that like?
I just knew you fools would start your shit in this thread, wise up or your comments will go...

As if you fools don't do the same thing in every single thread that could ever remotely be politicized. Give me a break.
Post proof or STFU I NEVER start politics in general, NEVER! Skudbook!
Don't you have a date at the adult bookstore to eat someone's shit?

You Oregon folks are a very strange breed.
 

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White males should only be listened to when they self identify as women and ask to be placed in female prison after they rape children or want access to other female spaces.

Not when they are defending the individual rights and liberties of the people.

Yep.

Dem/prog white males.....good

Other white males? BAD.
 

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The real problem is that CA wont loosen its restrictions so even though covid is going endemic and the variant spreading is omicron and NOT serious, they are still forcing people to take time off work that they cannot afford.

And they just now started offering free home tests.

They could just have people stay home if they are actually sick and otherwise take precautions. Like we have always done with any other virus.

Covid isnt going anywhere, we have to be able to live with this.