Should Joe Manchin succeed/take over from 'the other Joe'?

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...you know the other Joe.

Democrats need to move back to what is considered the the political center in the United States & quick if they want any hope of retaining 'market share'.

Who they have at the helm now doesn't appear ta cut the mustard. Its not just Biden either but the leadership of the Democratic Party too.

Anyways they better do something quick if they are to avoid political oblivion.

Any thoughts on this?
 

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The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.
 
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The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.

In some ways, the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in the US is further left than the Liberal Party of Canada.

Even the Liberals in Canada wanted the Keystone pipeline and more hydro power shipped to the States.
But both measures were rejected flat out by the Progressives in the US. So because of that...no jobs created in either Canada or the US.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are gonna pay the political price for letting that group run their economic policies.

If the Progressive Wing were Canadians they'd be called New Democrats or the Socialist Party of Canada.

This is their leader:

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And since they chose him. they went from being #2 in seats to 4th n the legislature.
 
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...you know the other Joe.

Democrats need to move back to what is considered the the political center in the United States & quick if they want any hope of retaining 'market share'.

Who they have at the helm now doesn't appear ta cut the mustard. Its not just Biden either but the leadership of the Democratic Party too.

Anyways they better do something quick if they are to avoid political oblivion.

Any thoughts on this?

No. No one voted for Joe Manchin, the massive corporate whore, to be president.

Going more corporate is not the equivalent of being more centrist, imo. It means being more on the take.
 
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...you know the other Joe.

Democrats need to move back to what is considered the the political center in the United States & quick if they want any hope of retaining 'market share'.

Who they have at the helm now doesn't appear ta cut the mustard. Its not just Biden either but the leadership of the Democratic Party too.

Anyways they better do something quick if they are to avoid political oblivion.

Any thoughts on this?

No. No one voted for Joe Manchin, the massive corporate whore, to be president.

Going more corporate is not the equivalent of being more centrist, imo. It means being more on the take.

Virginia elected a governor who's a product of corporate America.
MBA Harvard, Mergers Acquisitions.
 

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The "progressive wing" is n
The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.

In some ways, the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in the US is further left than the Liberal Party of Canada.

Even the Liberals in Canada wanted the Keystone pipeline and more hydro power shipped to the States.
But both measures were rejected flat out by the Progressives in the US. So because of that...no jobs created in either Canada or the US.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are gonna pay the political price for letting that group run their economic policies.

If the Progressive Wing were Canadians they'd be called New Democrats or the Socialist Party of Canada.

This is their leader:

5f6e68dd280000b61f9d360a.jpeg


And since they chose him. they went from being #2 in seats to 4th n the legislature.
The "progressive wing," whatever that is, so NOT running Democratic economic policy. The majority of Democrats are corporate Dems. The are very far from being progressive.
 

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...you know the other Joe.

Democrats need to move back to what is considered the the political center in the United States & quick if they want any hope of retaining 'market share'.

Who they have at the helm now doesn't appear ta cut the mustard. Its not just Biden either but the leadership of the Democratic Party too.

Anyways they better do something quick if they are to avoid political oblivion.

Any thoughts on this?

No. No one voted for Joe Manchin, the massive corporate whore, to be president.

Going more corporate is not the equivalent of being more centrist, imo. It means being more on the take.

Virginia elected a governor who's a product of corporate America.
MBA Harvard, Mergers Acquisitions.

Well, that'll just be more of the same corruption.
 
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The "progressive wing," whatever that is, so NOT running Democratic economic policy. The majority of Democrats are corporate Dems. The are very far from being progressive.

...if that be the case, they're still fretting about the ominous shadow of Trump and that he could come back.

He's like the Barbarian Horde to a lot of them or something.

The Center-Center Left msm seem very feaful these days.

so if corporate Democrats are bad, Corporate Republicans seem even worse.
 

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The "progressive wing," whatever that is, so NOT running Democratic economic policy. The majority of Democrats are corporate Dems. The are very far from being progressive.

...if that be the case, they're still fretting about the ominous shadow of Trump and that he could come back.

He's like the Barbarian Horde to a lot of them or something.

The Center-Center Left msm seem very feaful these days.

so if corporate Democrats are bad, Corporate Republicans seem even worse.

Yeah, they don't like Trump, but that does not make them progressives. They also hate Bernie, who is an actual progressive. They completely disempowered Bernie, they despise progressives so much.

Monetary policy for corporate Dems and corporate Cons is pretty much the same. They both take money from almost the exact same donors, and thus they vote for bills that benefit the same corporatins and people. Cons are just socially meaner people. Hence things like the Texass abortion law.
 
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I read now that the US Supreme court is stacked with Catholic anti-abortionists, that they're set to overturn Roe vs. Wade pretty soon.
 

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The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.

In some ways, the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in the US is further left than the Liberal Party of Canada.

Even the Liberals in Canada wanted the Keystone pipeline and more hydro power shipped to the States.
But both measures were rejected flat out by the Progressives in the US. So because of that...no jobs created in either Canada or the US.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are gonna pay the political price for letting that group run their economic policies.

If the Progressive Wing were Canadians they'd be called New Democrats or the Socialist Party of Canada.

This is their leader:

5f6e68dd280000b61f9d360a.jpeg


And since they chose him. they went from being #2 in seats to 4th n the legislature.

Progs are in no way liberal. These are authoritarians.
 

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The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.

In some ways, the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in the US is further left than the Liberal Party of Canada.

Even the Liberals in Canada wanted the Keystone pipeline and more hydro power shipped to the States.
But both measures were rejected flat out by the Progressives in the US. So because of that...no jobs created in either Canada or the US.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are gonna pay the political price for letting that group run their economic policies.

If the Progressive Wing were Canadians they'd be called New Democrats or the Socialist Party of Canada.

This is their leader:

5f6e68dd280000b61f9d360a.jpeg


And since they chose him. they went from being #2 in seats to 4th n the legislature.

Progs are in no way liberal. These are authoritarians.
 

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The only person who would take over if the potato got removed would be unlikable and lying Kamala. Manchin is a very intelligent politician, he knows his state, he knows what those voters want, and he is unwilling to end his political career by giving into the far left and thus offending most of his voting base in West Virginia.

In short, his "crime" is doing what the voters in his state want him to do. How terrible.

In some ways, the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in the US is further left than the Liberal Party of Canada.

Even the Liberals in Canada wanted the Keystone pipeline and more hydro power shipped to the States.
But both measures were rejected flat out by the Progressives in the US. So because of that...no jobs created in either Canada or the US.

Unfortunately, the Democrats are gonna pay the political price for letting that group run their economic policies.

If the Progressive Wing were Canadians they'd be called New Democrats or the Socialist Party of Canada.

This is their leader:

5f6e68dd280000b61f9d360a.jpeg


And since they chose him. they went from being #2 in seats to 4th n the legislature.

Progs are in no way liberal. These are authoritarians.

The person who has made it her life mission to deny women the right to an abortion is calling others authoritarian. :LOL3: