So its okay to threaten violence against women

[Joe]

I sigh with a sense of relief that I was born in another decade when life & society was more normal @Dove. Whomever is born now will live in a society much different to the one we came into.

I'm glad I'm not young growing up now.

Must be rough for parents too.

 

[LotusBud]

M2f trannies combine man's rage with women's emotional instability...very dangerous. Just look at "sindy "

Going the other way is probably better...unless you are the starving child they are trying to breastfeed.

Nothing about that depraved and hateful violent talk is womanly. Women are not violent like this.

Angry males are. That's toxic masculinity. When men respond with rage and violence to not getting their way.

Not saying women never do this....but it's a common thing with men. When women respond like this, it's a masculine trait.

They claim to be the same as all women.....yet they are still very masculine.

I'm definately not insulting you guys. I know there are good men who use self control and do not have these outbursts....so please dont take what I'm saying as a personal insult or anything. It's so not.

Women often take up too much time in lineups @Dove y. Just when I wanna pay the bill, the woman ahead of me starts socializing with the cashier and holds up the lune for another 5 minutes eh.

You would hate Portugal. Everyone here does that, men included, and mayeb even especially. It is considered very rude to abruptly end a conversation, so everyone, and I mean everone, waits patiently in lines while people talk.

 

[Dove]

@LotusBud can you explain how this isnt patriarchal abuse of women and just shows the amount of power and privilege MEN have where they can help themselves to OUR spaces, make us feel unsafe, and if we complain WE get banned?

How is this different from women being punished for rape?

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Years ago I dated a man who turned out to be very narcissistic and entitled. I broke up with him because over time I realized these things, and he became more rude and started asking for sexual acts I was not comfortable doing.




We live in a small Canadian town with 1 women’s shelter. I know several women who have used the home over the years. They have a confidentiality agreement, but of course when something happens that they need to talk about, there’s no stopping it.




I found out from 2 separate women that my ex-boyfriend now identies as a woman and lived in the women’s shelter for months. He made so many women uncomfortable by being loud with his deep voice, constantly talking about himself and his planned transition (he was still entirely, obviously, male), and talking about how “nowhere in town would do a bikini wax on male genitals.” One of the women said that his story didn’t sound like he even needed the women’s shelter; it sounded like he was there for the convenience of not paying rent and using their resources. There were likely other behaviours I never heard about.




Any women who complained would be called problematic and kicked out of the “women’s” shelter for transphobia. No woman could refuse to share a bedroom with him.




There was zero support from staff because they had to side with the 1 male over all the women. To do otherwise meant they would lose their job. They never asked any of the women how this impacted their experience at the shelter. Some women were worried their abusive ex-boyfriends would start identifying as women to get access to them; there was no safeguarding policy against this, and anyone using the shelter did not have to provide ID.




I, and many other women who heard about this, decided to never use our women’s shelter. It’s no longer safe for women"

 

[Lokmar]

Why the fuck do these MEN get so aggresive performing these tropes on how they THINK women are and how they THINK we speak.

Like we all sit around discussing our clothes and make up and bashing other women. We dont do that.

They will NEVER be women. Ever.

^^^ Hate Speech! LOL!

 

[Lokmar]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

 

[Joe]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

In that case You could join the fun & git raped too Lokmeer!

 

[Dove]

"For the past 8 months my college has been allowing men to just use the women's shower whenever they feel like it, which forces me to wait until almost 1.30-2.00am to avoid them, or use my friend's private room almost on the other end of campus. Most of the time the men aren't even using the restroom, they are just in there "hanging out what's the big deal I'm gender neutral I swear". I've repeatedly complained to community living and title IX but all that happened is I was required to meet with the equal opportunity advisor about how I should be more inclusive. I can't do it anymore and I'm actively pursuing how to live off campus next year as a sophmore, but I'm afraid I won't be able to"

 

[deport_liberals]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

If I ever go to prison, it will be as a woman...that I can tell you.

 

[Lokmar]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

In that case You could join the fun & git raped too Lokmeer!

Oh, is that how it works in your neck of the woods josephine?

 

[Dove]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

You don't even have to do that much. You just need to say you identify as a woman.

It's that easy.

 

[Lokmar]

So, I'm actually seeing a path back towards Biblical Living with all this crazy shit. Virginity may once again be a womans most cherished prize and any man that rapes another mans wife will be beaten to death by the husband.

 

[Lokmar]

What I'm hearing here is pussy is real fukin easy to score/rape/whatever if I'm just willing to throw on a dress and act like a faggit. I guess life is all about compromises.

You don't even have to do that much. You just need to say you identify as a woman.

It's that easy.

Sweet Jeebus. Did I ever tell you we need to start killing people, 30 million for a good start?

 

[Dove]

Look at this one.

And yeah if you DO raise a fuss.....as Dr Stabby showed us....you could be risking your fucking safety.

"
For background, I have cancer and therefore have extensive experience being a patient in public and private hospitals.




In 2020 I was admitted to the Acute Medial Unit at Royal Melbourne Hospital due to an extreme allergic reaction to an anti-epileptic drug that caused me to break out in hives and a horrible rash all over my body. And I mean all over. I had two female doctors have to come in (one supervising the other because of the intimate nature of the examination) and inspect the rash and symptoms (it was bad- I was delirious and my blood counts were very low, I could have died).




They put me on supervision and due to the pain of the allergic reaction I could hardly move, so my nurse had to apply steroid cream all over my body. The nurse was a trans-identified male. Don’t get me wrong - he was very nice, actually one of the nicest nurses I’ve had (too nice? He reprieved himself by smuggling me hair ties) but I was so deeply uncomfortable having a male see and touch my body. I couldn’t say anything - the public health system is nothing to fuck with, and I wasn’t going to risk my treatment being further relegated to the “too hard” basket by complaining about a male nurse applying ointment to my naked breasts etc.




I was in so much pain and general delirium that I just tolerated it. Looking back, I see another incident that has contributed to my medical PTSD and general mistrust of the medical system. I’ve had non-trans male nurses many times and they ALWAYS ask if I would prefer a female nurse before doing anything even remotely intimate. But because this nurse had long hair and a name tag that said “[female name]” or something like that, I just had to suck it up and let him see me naked.




[Moderator's note: I omitted the name, in case it was the nurse's real name, to preserve anonymity and avoid targeting any individuals. The story here is not the specific nurse, but the fact that the usual sensitivity about male nurses performing intimate care on female patients is abandoned when the nurse claims a 'gender identity'.]

 

[LotusBud]

If you're born with a dick, you're a male and if you're born with a snatch, you're a female. PERIOD!

It boggles belief that in today's fucked up clown world *HONK HONK* this fact is being challenged.

It's almost as if the ruling elite is trolling society...

You don't know much about the reality of all this, do you? Not eeryone is born straight up XX or XY. It's just a fact that you need to get through your fat and flabby head. There's so much fat there, you've got no room for brain matter. It's sad.

 

[Dove]

"
The current state of affairs has been in the making for some decades. About 20 years ago I acted pro bono for an Order of nuns who ran, among other charitable programs, a refuge for women and children who had been forced to leave their homes due to domestic violence. A claim was brought against the Order by a trans person, of quite notable size and stature, because they had been refused a place in the refuge. The accomodation provided for the women and children at that time consisted of dormitory style rooms accomodating up to 10 beds. Bathrooms were shared. Despite the fear of many of the women I spoke to living there at the time, the Order was forced into mediation and into allowing trans people to live at the refuge. I doubt very much that the claimant had a need of protection from domestic violence or accommodation in the refuge but was simply aiming to make a test case for others to follow. I was appalled at this outcome and still get annoyed thinking about it to this day. How has it come to the point that biological women and their children who are escaping a violent household should be subject to a male person clearly not biologically female, but merely self-identifying as a 'woman', being allowed by law to live in a facility designed to keep women safe from the fear of male violence?"

This is okay and you are a transphobe "desperate for hate and division" if you advocate for yourself as a woman.

Unreal.

 

[Dove]

If you're born with a dick, you're a male and if you're born with a snatch, you're a female. PERIOD!

It boggles belief that in today's fucked up clown world *HONK HONK* this fact is being challenged.

It's almost as if the ruling elite is trolling society...

You don't know much about the reality of all this, do you? Not eeryone is born straight up XX or XY. It's just a fact that you need to get through your fat and flabby head. There's so much fat there, you've got no room for brain matter. It's sad.

I'm posting the reality of this. I've posted multiple cases of male violence against women and then here where women are sharing experiences.

Are all these just bigot right wingers?

And stop using the existence of intersex people as an arguement for men being allowed to deem themselves "women" and destroy all our spaces. And awards. And sports.

Intersex people and genetic abnormalities do not justify this pseudoscience "gender" bullshit that is destroying womens rights and driving homosexuals back in the closet.

How many of these trans identified people have a chromosome abnormality, do you think? Because I'm willing to bet the VAST majority of these people have a basic XY or XX(because girls are getting transed as a socail contagion)

Most of the people and groups who have been opposing this and speaking out for women ARE left of center. Would you really turn on women and homosexuals because of partisanship?

 

[Dove]

More reality. I'm sure this is just right wing propaganda and any woman uncomfortable or trigger is just being stupid and silly. As always....WOMEN must shut the fuck up and stop the silly drama. Right?

THIS kind of hate, gaslighting and bullshit and meddling is WHY I have right wing views.

"
I run group therapy for women who have experienced gendered violence such as domestic violence, rape and sexual abuse, where the perpetrators are more often than not male (and 100% male in the clients I have worked with).




I am very concerned about the mental health and triggering of PTSD symptoms in these women by allowing trans women who have not fully transitioned or are evidently not female in appearance into the group, because of the triggering effect this may have on the mental health of the women in the group when it is supposed to be a safe space for women, free from triggers which in large part include men due to the abuse suffered.




I can’t advertise that this group is for cis-women only, because of the possibility of losing my registration to practice as a psychologist due to gender identity discrimination, however, I am also ethically obligated to “do no harm” to my clients, and my experiences are that this would be harmful to some of my clients and would result in an environment of silence, hyper vigilance and anxiety, rather than a place of growth, sharing and healing.




While I recognise that trans women are also at very high risk of abuse by men, and need spaces to heal also, they don’t seem to have empathy for cis-women in understanding that being a man, whether or not you identify as one, is one of the biggest PTSD triggers for women who have experienced gendered violence and many women who have been through gendered trauma, need a space that is free from men and people who have at any point identified as men, to be able to share their experiences without fear and feel safe to do so.




I feel an ethical responsibility to these women to protect their safe space for trauma treatment, but am conflicted about how to hold a safe space for these women and still have safe spaces for trans and gender non-conforming individuals as a seperate trauma workshop, without being accused of transphobia or being a TERF.




The fact is, both cis-women and trans women have different needs when it comes to safe group therapy spaces for trauma treatment, but how do we achieve this when we aren’t even allowed to discuss it?"

 

[Dove]

"
Five years ago, I was taking my four-year old to the women’s bathroom at the children’s science centre. When I arrived, an older man was in the bathroom washing his hands and talking to two unaccompanied girls (it is a kids’ science museum after all). When I entered, he said “Oh, is this the women’s restroom? I must be confused” and left. I watched him recording children playing in the museum on his phone afterwards and notified the staff.




I question myself about what I would or could do if this man was wearing a wig and presenting as a woman? I would want to protect those unaccompanied girls. But would that make me a target of violence? Would the science centre staff listened to my concerns? Should I tell my teen daughter that she might see someone with a penis openly changing when she goes swimming; how should I even prepare her for this?




Women need single-sex spaces. There are predators that want to access the women and children that use them. It’s impossible for us to know if someone is there for genuine or sinister reasons. As long as people with penises tend to be the overwhelming number of rapists in the world, they shouldn’t have access to the rooms where the vast majority of rape victims go for safety and privacy.




It should be obvious how problematic this is, but somehow these concerns are dismissed and ignored. Women and girls matter."

Boy it's a good thing we have super educated and enlightened leftists to spew abuse at all the stupid bigots who are just dumb and ignorant and have silly and stupid concerns.

You better not have PTSD from a rape and have a physical terror response to any men who say they are women! That's transphobic. Just suffer quietly.

 

[Dove]

@LotusBud you know how "lib fems" love to say that if men could get pregnant, abortion would be free and easy to get?

Turns out you were probably right. Men ARE privileged over women......when they "identify" as women. Women have been fighting for a long time for better benefits and look at that. You just need to be biologically male.

"
Although not space related, I wanted to share another example of how trans rights have displaces women's rights.




In my workplace, trans employees are able to access up to 10 weeks of additional medical leave for physical and mental health appointments relating to their transition. Meanwhile, women with fertility issues, endometriosis, breast cancer and those caring for disabled or chronically ill children receive no additional leave, and you'll find them using all their holiday leave to cover these appointments. Many also don't work full time because of such health concerns leading them to live in more financially challenged circumstances and, of course, earning less superannuation. My argument is that surely such leave should be open to anyone experiencing circumstances that jeopardise their physical or mental wellbeing, not just trans people.




Women have been fighting hard for equality for so long, and now it feels like there is a new challenger - although this time we can't call it out without being considered to be transphobic!"

 

[Dove]

@Admin. You reading these or ignoring it? Is this stuff all right wing Russian disinfo?

"I was a resident at The Delores Project, a women's domestic violence shelter in Denver Colorado that allows transwomen to stay there. I stayed at Delores between 2015 and 2018. While there, I was assaulted by a transwoman who also stayed there. Even though I was covered in bruises, the staff and volunteers at Delores insisted there was nothing they could do about it. They did not evict the transwoman who assaulted me or punish them in any way. In fact, they instructed me to cease discussing the assault, or else they would evict me to the streets. Also during my stay there, there was another man in his early 20s who also claimed to be a transwoman despite dressing like any regular guy and not physically transitioning in any way. This young man slept in the same dorm area as the women residents, where the women undressed and changed clothes. Eventually this young man was evicted after being caught a second time masturbating in the dorm area (from his bed). I remember the women expressing they were uncomfortable with the transwomen being there, but they would whisper these concerns amongst themselves and almost never to staff. We all knew the staff/management would evict women before they would evict the transwomen no matter the situation. Even though I was a transman, I knew I wasn't as protected as the transwomen were at Delores. And I don't know how to explain why I was valued less than a transwomen, other than to conclude it was because of my biological sex (which is female)."

 

[Dove]

@LotusBud and @Admin.

You guys know this is a whole kink and there is an entire genre of porn that is men dressed like women jerking off in public female bathrooms and locker rooms with women and even kids you can see in the back ground?

I can always start posting it. Why do women deserve to be forced to give up our safety?

"I have been impacted by the behaviour of a trans-identified male in the changeroom at my local gym. This person has stood in front of the mirror and used their mobile phone to video-call another male whilst in the changeroom. As a result of the trans-identified male using the front-facing camera and standing in front of me whilst I was putting a bra on, the male they were talking to on the video call would have seen my bent over, half-naked body and chest in the background. I felt like I couldn't tell the trans-identified male person to stop that or get out, because I was worried about being accused of being transphobic and not being able to use the gym anymore. It just felt like there was zero consideration for women's bodies or our right to privacy"

 

[Dove]

More violent hatred.

"
Last summer, at the height of the vicious JK Rowling witch-hunt, our street had a party. Those few of us left at sundown were invited into a neighbouring garden to continue chatting around a fire by the two twenty-something-year-old men who occupied the house. One was a little effeminate (I’ll call him Mr X) and I thought he may be gay, although they were clearly housemates, not a couple.




We were all getting on very well and the atmosphere was fun, until my husband brought up the subject of gendered language, inspired by an interesting literary essay he’d read that day. He is a writer, speaks four languages and has a decent grasp of Latin, so was speaking from a position of a little knowledge. The atmosphere immediately turned frosty and Mr X began disagreeing with my husband, despite being ignorant of linguistics, etymology and the languages under discussion. Mr X argued purely from a gender ideological position.




Now, if I hadn’t had a few beers I would have judged the situation more carefully and, not wanting a whole heap of shit thrown at me, would have policed myself. But, I was feeling the injustice of what was then happening to JK Rowling and before I knew it had joined the conversation with this little opener: “I think JK Rowling has a point…”




Rather mild, no?




It seems not.




What happened in the next split-second was utterly disorientating. Mr X jumped out of his seat screaming (yes, screaming) at me to get out. His housemate had to restrain him from physically assaulting me. My husband, another neighbour and I left as quickly as we could. I felt shocked and physically shaken for days after. The level of aggression directed at me was off the scale (I note that none was directed at my 6’2” husband for voicing his opinions). If the housemate hadn’t restrained Mr X then I’ve no doubt I would have been injured. Until we moved house recently, I had to walk past his door every day.




I am a woman in my 50s. As well as having been subject to the usual sexual harassment all women have to put up with from puberty onwards, I have experienced rape, serious domestic violence, and the subsequent choking isolation of single parenthood while suffering PTSD.




Now, I’m still not sure if Mr X identifies as a woman, or whether he is simply a trans activist. What I do know is that Mr X works in television. He has worked on documentaries about rape, and, when I’d questioned him earlier in the day, was glibly confident about the way his production company dealt with the subject, and the aftercare it provides.




It disgusts me that this man is let anywhere near women who have been subjected to male violence. It disgusts me that he believes he empathises with womens’ lived experience. And it scares me that he has his foot on the ladder of a career in the media"

 

[Dove]

"I have, on a few occasions, gone to use a public toilet and had to share the space with someone who was obviously a man. On both occasions I not only felt uncomfortable but also highly scrutinised by both males. As though my conduct in the toilet should be under a watchful and suspicious eye. Nothing was said but both times I felt not only uncomfortable but also pushed out of my own space. The looks I got were not friendly or apologetic, not even embarrassed, they were purely hostile. I have sympathy for any mental health issue, but to force my entire sex to lose their safe places, it is not right. I'm disgusted that we are being forced and silenced to go along with this. I want my female privacy back. It is no right of men to take it from us"

 

[Lokmar]

If you're born with a dick, you're a male and if you're born with a snatch, you're a female. PERIOD!

It boggles belief that in today's fucked up clown world *HONK HONK* this fact is being challenged.

It's almost as if the ruling elite is trolling society...

You don't know much about the reality of all this, do you? Not eeryone is born straight up XX or XY. It's just a fact that you need to get through your fat and flabby head. There's so much fat there, you've got no room for brain matter. It's sad.

Yea dipshit, some people are born with Downs.

 

[Joe]

Yea dipshit, some people are born with Downs.

Were you Lokmeer?

 

[Lokmar]

Yea dipshit, some people are born with Downs.

Were you Lokmeer?

Was I what, josephine?

 

[Dove]

I'm going to make sure to go shooting with my daughters at least twice a month.

Make sure they stay in shape and know how to fight. And make sure they understand how vital the 2A to Americans ESPECAILLY women and girls.

Looks like our biggest threat is coming as transwomen and "TRAs".

The left clearly doesnt give a single fuck about anyone.

 

[Lokmar]

I'm going to make sure to go shooting with my daughters at least twice a month.

Make sure they stay in shape and know how to fight. And make sure they understand how vital the 2A to Americans ESPECAILLY women and girls.

Looks like our biggest threat is coming as transwomen and "TRAs".

The left clearly doesnt give a single fuck about anyone.

Some people say I waste ammo but I swear, the best thing you can do is have them shoot A LOT! Its the only way to get over flinching. I've shot so many 44 mags I get passed the flinch after about 10 rounds now. At first, it was terrible even with a 9mm.

 

[Joe]

I'm going to make sure to go shooting with my daughters at least twice a month.

Make sure they stay in shape and know how to fight. And make sure they understand how vital the 2A to Americans ESPECAILLY women and girls.

Looks like our biggest threat is coming as transwomen and "TRAs".

The left clearly doesnt give a single fuck about anyone.

I'm gravitating towards non violence @Dove y.

Hopefully i'll never have ro inflict violence upon anyone for the remainder of my life.

I intend to move outta the city at some point.

 

[Lokmar]

I'm going to make sure to go shooting with my daughters at least twice a month.

Make sure they stay in shape and know how to fight. And make sure they understand how vital the 2A to Americans ESPECAILLY women and girls.

Looks like our biggest threat is coming as transwomen and "TRAs".

The left clearly doesnt give a single fuck about anyone.

I'm gravitating towards non violence @Dove y.

Hopefully i'll never have ro inflict violence upon anyone for the remainder deranged of my life.

I intend to move outta the city at some point.

pussy.