Such compassion on the right

[Lily]

Then you're well-equipped to fact-check someone else who has perused all the same primary sources.

But I have no faith that you will, because, as you have well established by now: You prioritize claimant over claim. Every time.

False. I simply don't twist history to suit my beliefs, especially not by watching yahoos on the internet, like I suspect you do.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

False.

But then...

...yahoos on the internet...

Claimant.

You should give a little thought to... I dunno... not BTFO'ing your denial in the same post in which you issued it.

 

[Lily]

But then...

Claimant.

You should give a little thought to... I dunno... not BTFO'ing your denial in the same post in which you issued it.

Thank you for acknowledging that nothing you espouse comes from scholars that are challenged before their work is published.

You are a joke.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Thank you for acknowledging that nothing you espouse comes from scholars that are challenged before their work is published.

To the contrary. What I've acknowledged is that you are deliberately narrowly-informed, which is a prerequisite for being narrow-minded.

 

[Lily]

To the contrary. What I've acknowledged is that you are deliberately narrowly-informed, which is a prerequisite for being narrow-minded.

If someone espouses "truths" that are not challenged by their peers, I'm suspect.

Did you have a formal education?

 

[The New Holliday]

We don't personally have a say in anything. That doesn't absolve us of anything as a nation.

Hmmmm. Not to cross threads, but how's that only work here?
We do have some little say as individuals, and no one need be held complicit when opposing government actions for the actions of the government.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

If someone espouses "truths" that are not challenged by their peers, I'm suspect.

You don't even know what the claims are; you're dismissing them sight-unseen, so how do you know whether they're challenged or not?

 

[Lily]

You don't even know what the claims are; you're dismissing them sight-unseen, so how do you know whether they're challenged or not?

I don't, but that's because you fail to provide names of these "scholars".

 

[The New Holliday]

Try explaining that to Holly.

Dude, how did you let me get soooo far under your skin?

 

[Lily]

Hmmmm. Not to cross threads, but how's that only work here?
We do have some little say as individuals, and no one need be held complicit when opposing government actions for the actions of the government.

Our history is ours, whether we agreed or not. We don't get to wash our hands.

What function does that serve? Jesus, the pretzels you conservatives will twist yourselves into to avoid accountability is astounding. Worse, it's disempowering.

 

[The New Holliday]

You don't even know what the claims are; you're dismissing them sight-unseen

Why not put it into your own werdz rather than a video?

 

[Lily]

Dude, how did you let me get soooo far under your skin?

Dude, how do you miss the logic?

 

[The New Holliday]

you conservatives

Um...you are the libtard (Libs - the other conservatives). I am a Liberal, which is why I oppose conservatism while you embrace it.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Jesus, the pretzels you conservatives will twist yourselves into to avoid accountability is astounding. Worse, it's disempowering.

"Sins of the fathers" and "guilt by association" are religious thinking. I don't do religious thinking, as you might have noticed.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Why not put it into your own werdz rather than a video?

What, so I can do days of legwork -- only for that to be ignored, as well, when it's already been done?

 

[The New Holliday]

Dude, how do you miss the logic?

I never miss the logic if it's present. Have I contradicted myself? No. You and another have.

 

[Jack]

Dude, how did you let me get soooo far under your skin?

Dude, how do you let me get soooooooo far under yours?

Now you're following me around. I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago.

Pat yourself on the back as much as you like.

 

[Lily]

"Sins of the fathers" and "guilt by association" are religious thinking. I don't do religious thinking, as you might have noticed.

It's not religious thinking whatsoever.

What parts of American history do you want to pretend aren't American?

Do you have a list? I'd be interested in seeing it.

 

[Jack]

Um...you are the libtard (Libs - the other conservatives). I am a Liberal, which is why I oppose conservatism while you embrace it.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

It's not religious thinking whatsoever.

...American history...

How many centuries old do you think I am?

 

[The New Holliday]

What, so I can do days of legwork -- only for that to be ignored, as well, when it's already been done?

No, so there won't be any opportunity to evade what you want to present.
. I'm sure you can introduce the salient points.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

No, so there won't be any opportunity to evade what you want to present.
. I'm sure you can introduce the salient points.

"Here's a book about it."
"NO! YOU write it!"

 

[The New Holliday]

Dude, how do you let me get soooooooo far under yours?

Now you're following me around. I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago.

Pat yourself on the back as much as you like.

You are mentioning me out of the blue in threads I haven't posted in. LoLz - dude, I spotted you day one and knew what you were about. I've just been waiting for you to hang yourself. And a good job you've done, pedro.

 

[Lily]

How many centuries old do you think I am?

Stop being lame. Either you're an American or you're not.

You have the maturity of an 11 year old boy.

"It's not my fault." Right, but as an American it is YOUR history.

 

[Jack]

You are mentioning me out of the blue in threads I haven't posted in. LoLz - dude, I spotted you day one and knew what you were about. I've just been waiting for you to hang yourself. And a good job you've done, pedro.

Uh huh. Like I said, pat yourself on the back all you like mr "liberal" sir.

 

[Jack]

Uh huh. Like I said, pat yourself on the back all you like mr "liberal" sir.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Stop being lame. Either you're an American or you're not.

Yes, I am a native American.

You have the maturity of an 11 year old boy.

"It's not my fault." Right, but as an American it is YOUR history.

And yours, presumably. How culpable are you for Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How about Dresden, how much of that is on your shoulders?

None. You didn't do it.

So let's dispense with the 'collective guilt' ploy; it's weak tea and irrelevant.

 

[The New Holliday]

Uh huh. Like I said, pat yourself on the back all you like mr "liberal" sir.

Hey, am I afraid to criticize islam and its evil conservative deeds? Nope, but you are. You won't even acknowlege them. Total denial. You even defend islam. Say MAGA, jack. Same shit, different pile.

 

[Lily]

Yes, I am a native American.

And yours, presumably. How culpable are you for Hiroshima and Nagasaki? How about Dresden, how much of that is on your shoulders?

None. You didn't do it.

So let's dispense with the 'collective guilt' ploy; it's weak tea and irrelevant.

I'm not personally responsible, but it is part of my history as an American.

It doesn't harm me. If I avoid feeling bad about things we've done as a nation, it doesn't empwer me to do better as an American.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

If I avoid feeling bad about things we've done as a nation, it doesn't empwer me to do better as an American.

If you avoid feeling bad for things you never did, that's normal. We're not a gestalt creature. We're individuals.

Don't be a guilt thief. Put it down, it doesn't belong to you.