Tesla Self-Driving Car Crashes into a Tree, Killing 2 in Texas

[Joe]

I'm grateful they didn't kill any innocent bystanders. Self-driving cars are a menace to society.

How would you know? There literally are no self driving cars on the road.

There have been plenty of self-driving cars on the road. Did you just wake up from a long nap?

How did a self-driving car crash if there are literally none on the road?

They were testing them all over LA, and there were quite a few crashes. Do you think Musk has suddenly stopped doing that? Do you live under a rock?

You are a stupid person. I repeat, a stupid person. Indeed if there are no self driving cars how did a supposedly "self driving car" crash. Logic would lead you to the correct answer yet you seem unable to make the connection. The answer, my mentally limited friend, is that care was not full self driving, the fool over road the safety features and tried to act like it was self driving when it was not. Thus the crash. It was neither advertised as self driving nor promoted as self driving. Someone had to turn off the you have to sit in the driver's seat and touch the steering wheel once a minute feature so that the tard could get out of the driver's seat and go to sleep in the back seat.

None of which the manufacturer said was safe to do. Not that modern fake "journalists" ever give a shit about facts. They are selling click bait to poorly informed low information people like you though so they get away with it.

The fool over road the safety features? What does that even mean? LMAO Did he drive over them over the road? Or did the road roll over the safety features? Or what?

Oh, did you mean overrode? Yeah, don't tell me that was a typo, too.

Yeah. It's still driverless car technology, and that is still Musk's wet dream, and why those cars exist at all. You are all a bunch of tools.

Yeah, perhaps the driverless autopilot feature should be stripped out of non-commercial consumer vehicles altogether.

But things being as they may while machines are predictable, humans/human behaviour is not.
Comoputer technology doesn't always account for human error.

I can see this technology being useful when it's deployed for certain commercial applications such as heavy industry. ie - a truck picking up and loading/unloading heavy loads, construction materials. Mining trucks. Moon landings.

Anyways, I remember seeing these advertisments with people reclining in driiverless vehicles, so that's likely where the 2 deceased got their idea from.

 

[Oerdin]

Tesla is the only one which is even close and even it requires a human to be in the seat and to periodically touch the steering wheel. The sole exception is in valet mod which is limited to five mph and not being on a public street (so you need to be in a private parking lot). Trust me, I have lots of friends and neighbors with Teslas though I will never buy one.

I prefer to invest in assets which go up in value instead of down in value and cars, at least in general, go down, classics are really the only ones which go up and it is impossible to tell which ones will explode in popularity. 10 years ago you could buy a vintage Jeep Grand Wagooneer for $5000 for a mint restore and now they are $75,000 but that is a fluke.

‘95 Maserati appreciates in value! Yeeeeeeah baby!

eeww so thats a mazerati? i thought they were all cool and sporty :/

how many needle-dicked dorky homosexuals can fit in it?

Maserati us a company that has had many ups and downs. In the post war years it was a rival for Ferrari in racing wins and performance, its heyday was the 1960's where they produced some very good looking cars with advanced engineering but the company never really had the resources or production volume to pay for the testing and quality control to really sort any of it out so that it was reliable. By the 1970's they were in steep decline going from owner to owner each failing to turn it around. They essentially produced just one new car in the 1980's and some how managed to not go completely bust still selling that same badly out dated car all through the 1990's (but only just so). In the very late 1990's they got saved by FIAT and merged with Ferrari who provided engines and technology while FIAT funded two new cars.

They had a slight Renaissance in the early 00's selling part FIAT part Ferrari but not really any Maserati cars which had a front grill on it which said Maserati. It's now in a funk again and struggling for life. They promised five new cars between 2015-2025 but not one actually appeared. The newly merged Fiat-Chrysler and PSA (PSA is a shity French car company merged with a shity Italian-American company which probably won't survive ten years because when you merge three shity companies you just get a slightly bigger shity company) says they will do great things with the brand but again nothing has actually been produced much less sold.

What was your assessment on the Leyland P76? I did a case-study on the beauty during my business studies...

I much prefer a Rover P6 which was sold in the US as a Rover 3500. The 3.5L ex Buick aluminum V-8 was highly reliable and equipped with the proper engine management technology even fuel efficient, thus why Land Rover sold a 4L version into the 00's and MGB RV8 had it until around the same time. Growing up a neighbor, a high school kid, had a Rover 3500 with the same five speed manual used in Triumph TR8s so it was nice to see yet, in reality, less than 1500 were sold in the US so they were rare as he's teeth.

 

[Breakfall]

Tesla is the only one which is even close and even it requires a human to be in the seat and to periodically touch the steering wheel. The sole exception is in valet mod which is limited to five mph and not being on a public street (so you need to be in a private parking lot). Trust me, I have lots of friends and neighbors with Teslas though I will never buy one.

I prefer to invest in assets which go up in value instead of down in value and cars, at least in general, go down, classics are really the only ones which go up and it is impossible to tell which ones will explode in popularity. 10 years ago you could buy a vintage Jeep Grand Wagooneer for $5000 for a mint restore and now they are $75,000 but that is a fluke.

‘95 Maserati appreciates in value! Yeeeeeeah baby!

eeww so thats a mazerati? i thought they were all cool and sporty :/

how many needle-dicked dorky homosexuals can fit in it?

Maserati us a company that has had many ups and downs. In the post war years it was a rival for Ferrari in racing wins and performance, its heyday was the 1960's where they produced some very good looking cars with advanced engineering but the company never really had the resources or production volume to pay for the testing and quality control to really sort any of it out so that it was reliable. By the 1970's they were in steep decline going from owner to owner each failing to turn it around. They essentially produced just one new car in the 1980's and some how managed to not go completely bust still selling that same badly out dated car all through the 1990's (but only just so). In the very late 1990's they got saved by FIAT and merged with Ferrari who provided engines and technology while FIAT funded two new cars.

They had a slight Renaissance in the early 00's selling part FIAT part Ferrari but not really any Maserati cars which had a front grill on it which said Maserati. It's now in a funk again and struggling for life. They promised five new cars between 2015-2025 but not one actually appeared. The newly merged Fiat-Chrysler and PSA (PSA is a shity French car company merged with a shity Italian-American company which probably won't survive ten years because when you merge three shity companies you just get a slightly bigger shity company) says they will do great things with the brand but again nothing has actually been produced much less sold.

What was your assessment on the Leyland P76? I did a case-study on the beauty during my business studies...

I much prefer a Rover P6 which was sold in the US as a Rover 3500. The 3.5L ex Buick aluminum V-8 was highly reliable and equipped with the proper engine management technology even fuel efficient, thus why Land Rover sold a 4L version into the 00's and MGB RV8 had it until around the same time. Growing up a neighbor, a high school kid, had a Rover 3500 with the same five speed manual used in Triumph TR8s so it was nice to see yet, in reality, less than 1500 were sold in the US so they were rare as he's teeth.

The P76 was quite ahead of it’s time. Biggest boot space ever, one could even fit a 44 gal drum in there. All wheel disc brakes, comes in a V8, superb suspension and marketed and released during a fuel shortage basically. Aussie Icon...

 

[Breakfall]

Whhhhaaaaaat!?

 

[Breakfall]

 

[Oerdin]

My dad taught me how to drive a manual on a car like this one. The one my dad had didn't have e a roll bar and it was missing the convertable top but that didn't matter much in San Diego.

 

[Oerdin]

The driver's assistant known as auto pilot was not even engaged at the time of the crash and no one was sitting in the driver's seat. That would explain why the safety features didn't engage because the whole system was turned off.

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[Holliday Unchained]

Self driving cars? No thanks.

its okay if touching the controls over-rides it

Then what's the point?
My car has a driver - me.
I have to take over at a moment's notice when the computer can't handle a situation?

The technology is infant.
It relies on markers like divider lines etc
which are obscured in snow etc.

Fuck these things - I will drive.
How fucking lazy are people?
How often does your computer fuck up?
and you're telling me these cars are not going to crash?

 

[Breakfall]

Yeah I agree. I enjoy driving and speeding when I have the road to myself. There is no way in hell that I’d get into a self-driving vehicle, particularly when technology is so prone to glitching.

 

[Frood]

Besides....self driving cars will be programmed to limit and tattle on their owners....

 

[Oerdin]

Besides....self driving cars will be programmed to limit and tattle on their owners....

You know insurance companies want that part.

 

[Holliday Unchained]

Yeah I agree. I enjoy driving and speeding when I have the road to myself. There is no way in hell that I’d get into a self-driving vehicle, particularly when technology is so prone to glitching.

I enjoy driving - I mean it's one of the few times in life we are in charge of things.
..and these fucks want to take that away from us?!

Fuck them.

 

[Oerdin]

It turns out there are two self driving cars on the road.

 

[Frood]

Yeah I agree. I enjoy driving and speeding when I have the road to myself. There is no way in hell that I’d get into a self-driving vehicle, particularly when technology is so prone to glitching.

I enjoy driving - I mean it's one of the few times in life we are in charge of things.
..and these fucks want to take that away from us?!

Fuck them.

You'll do as your told like a good little leftist...

 

[LotusBud]

I flip off Tesla drivers and Prius drivers...

No reason for that as they are nice cars. My brother in law bought a model S and he let me drive it, I also test drove a model 3. There are a good 12 or so in my neighborhood and it is impossible to go to school functions for the kids, or swim lessons, or even just the local mall without running into an owner who gushes about them.

I guess I got burned on expensive cars at age 23 when fresh out of college with my first really good paying job I decided to buy a new BMW. Not only was the car itself too expensive but as soon as the warranty ran out there were really big repair bills. Even the tires cost thousand and lots of plastic parts and sensors failed, all of which had to come from Germany, all of which seemed to cost between $400-$800 each. So I sold it and since then have either owned mostly Japanese cars (the exception was two cheap used Ford Rangers I used for work and beat the shit out of because they cost virtually nothing so who cared?).

I decided it was far better to cut expensive stuff out of my life, get what I needed instead of what I wanted, and invest the difference. 20 years later I am far better off having made that decision.

Electric cars are shit and the owners are deluded wankers.

Die, die, die!

So you missed the part where I chose not to waste my money on expensive cars? Deciding to forgo wants in order to focus on needs and investing the difference is why I have a paid off house and three rental houses in my early 40's. Lotusbud likes to pretend well off people are evil and some how stole what they have where as in reality most of us made decisions to work hard, save money for the future, denying ourselves things we wanted which weren't necessary. By any measure an $85,000 car isn't necessary especially when a Toyota Camry works just as well.

I wish people like Lotusbud would read books like the millionaire next door because that describes the vast majority of millionaires in the US. It is a mind set and anyone can do it but they have to commit themselves to a life style.

You don't understand anything I say, ever. I never said I had an issue with millionaires. You cannot find one post where I said any such thing.

I have an issue with two things: People who think money makes them somehow better than others, and corporations and individuals that exploit the labor pool. I believe people who work for a living should be paid a fair wage and no one should get rich off of exploiting people. I never once said no one should be a millionaire. I do, however, believe no one in the world needs a billion dollars.

Stop being a pea brain and accusing me of things I never said and don't believe.

Kindly kill yourself because you are dishonest to the core. The reality is no one forces anyone to work a job, they voluntary do it, there is no "exploitation " unless people are forced into slavery. If you dislike a job then you walk across the street and you apply for a new job. All the things that you seek to stiffle are ways regular people seek to better themselves. You are your own worst enemy.

I know that is true every time I see liberals pass regulations which make common people worse off, which make the economy less dynamic, and which protect existing players at the expense of new entrepreneurs. In short, you are a lazy and stupid person and everything you support does the exact opposite of what you claim.

That is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever read. Every person is forced to pay bills, and in order to pay bills people take the jobs they can find, so yes, they are forced to have jobs. Most people on the planet do not work in the job they would choose if they could have any job. Most people work shit jobs in order to pay bills. There is no rationale for paying shit wages because "no one forces anyone to work a job." Where the fuck did you learn such gross illogic? Fuck yourself to the core. You're a nasty fuckhead with literally no brain.

 

[SHAMPAIN]

Self driving cars are beyond ridiculous, our brains are programmed to protect ourselves so instinct would kick in and I'd get out or if it was mine (don't see how that would ever happen) I'd be constantly grabbing the steering wheel and pushing the brakes... Take modern computer games that are coded to work right but they have glitch patches almost monthly... Fuck to the NO! I enjoy driving for the most part anyway, we don't need that taken away from us and what for?

 

[LotusBud]

It turns out there are two self driving cars on the road.

But I thought there were no self driving cars on the road.

 

[Oerdin]

As I said, jackass, it turns out there are exactly two on a trial basis. Exactly two copies of the same Waymo van run only in Phoenix on a trial basis and limited to a very small area. You can read, can't you?

Those two are evaluation models. I bet you are so ignorant you still don't know the driver's assist on that Tesla wasn't even engaged. They never turned it on but someone climbed out of the driver's seat and got into the back. What do you think would happen in ANY car where the driver did that? Tard.

 

[Joe]

Yeah I agree. I enjoy driving and speeding when I have the road to myself. There is no way in hell that I’d get into a self-driving vehicle, particularly when technology is so prone to glitching.

I enjoy driving - I mean it's one of the few times in life we are in charge of things.
..and these fucks want to take that away from us?!

Fuck them.

...but that's the idea.
All this new technology is designed to make us Mac-stupid.

 

[Oerdin]

The six levels of self driving to help inform people who want to learn about the facts.

 

[Admin.]

 

[Oerdin]

Tesla only offers level 2 so, nope, no self driving.

 

[Admin.]

May god bless the millions of people that die every year behind the wheel of a KILLER CAMRY!

 

[Oerdin]

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