The fucking carnival barker is selling perfume now

[X]

Trump's companies have filed for bankruptcy at least

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. This is no exaggeration. Digital World noted this in its SEC filings. This excludes additional business failures that might not have declared bankruptcy, but closed owing vendors, employees and others.

For the record, here are some of Trump's noteworthy business failures.

1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.
15. Truth Social — This existing Trump business owes big money, and may well be breathing its last.

Fail Bigly Watch for Trump Wigs coming soon

All part of the game, the end product of all that you posted equals a very rich man

 

[Jack]

All part of the game, the end product of all that you posted equals a very rich man

So rich he begged the judge to reduce the bond on his guilty judgement?

That rich?

 

[X]

So rich he begged the judge to reduce the bond on his guilty judgement?

That rich?

Rich people are always thinking of ways to save $$ , it’s how they stay rich don’t hate

 

[oldslowandugly]

Well, he's going to need a shitload of money. NY State is NOT dropping the fraud and other cases that he was found GUILTY of. They said that even though he may get a temporary time out being president, they are happy to wait. The $454 million judgement will probably be in the $500 million range by then due to interest. And don't forget the part about banning his companies from doing business in NY. You can hide in Flori-duh, but you can't make money like in NY. He was already caught trying to shift his assets to Flori-duh, nice try. And it is a bit hard to hide buildings with your name plastered all over them. Yeah, sure, he's a 'billionaire'. And the idiots that posted bonds so he could appeal all the monetary verdicts, are also charging interest. Way before he is out of office, those appeals are all going to be played out, the verdicts upheld, and the penalties will all be waiting.

 

[AnnaConda]

Well, he's going to need a shitload of money. NY State is NOT dropping the fraud and other cases that he was found GUILTY of. They said that even though he may get a temporary time out being president, they are happy to wait. The $454 million judgement will probably be in the $500 million range by then due to interest. And don't forget the part about banning his companies from doing business in NY. You can hide in Flori-duh, but you can't make money like in NY. He was already caught trying to shift his assets to Flori-duh, nice try. And it is a bit hard to hide buildings with your name plastered all over them. Yeah, sure, he's a 'billionaire'. And the idiots that posted bonds so he could appeal all the monetary verdicts, are also charging interest. Way before he is out of office, those appeals are all going to be played out, the verdicts upheld, and the penalties will all be waiting.

That’s going to require a LOT of perfume and wig sales Or maybe his new bestie “Leon” can “loan” him some money

 

[Lily]

That’s going to require a LOT of perfume and wig sales Or maybe his new bestie “Leon” can “loan” him some money

It would be hilarious if he called him Elmo.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

 

[Murdy]

Well, he's going to need a shitload of money. NY State is NOT dropping the fraud and other cases that he was found GUILTY of. They said that even though he may get a temporary time out being president, they are happy to wait. The $454 million judgement will probably be in the $500 million range by then due to interest. And don't forget the part about banning his companies from doing business in NY. You can hide in Flori-duh, but you can't make money like in NY. He was already caught trying to shift his assets to Flori-duh, nice try. And it is a bit hard to hide buildings with your name plastered all over them. Yeah, sure, he's a 'billionaire'. And the idiots that posted bonds so he could appeal all the monetary verdicts, are also charging interest. Way before he is out of office, those appeals are all going to be played out, the verdicts upheld, and the penalties will all be waiting.

Interest on judgments are statutory and accrue at 9% annually in NY

 

[Admin.]

 

[Lily]

Interest on judgments are statutory and accrue at 9% annually in NY.

Imagine all the money Russians and others are going to put into accounts for him offshore.

 

[Murdy]

Imagine all the money Russians and others are going to put into accounts for him offshore.

I wouldn’t trust anything offshore tbh.

I did the maths…. $163,440,000 interest on the judgment for 4 years.

 

[Lily]

I wouldn’t trust anything offshore tbh.

I did the maths…. $163,440,000 interest on the judgment for 4 years.

$163 million on how much? Fuuck...that's crazy high.

 

[Murdy]

$163 million on how much? Fuuck...that's crazy high.

$454,000,000 for 4 years

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets tossed due to Engeron's judicial malpractice in the case.

 

[Murdy]

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets tossed due to Engeron's judicial malpractice in the case.

I call tactical move by his defense, who will have to prove the ruling was egregious to get the judgment vacated. That’s not easy to do in my experience.

 

[Jack]

I call tactical move by his defense, who will have to prove the ruling was egregious to get the judgment vacated. That’s not easy to do in my experience.

it's completely impossible after the fact. Wishful thinking otherwise

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

I call tactical move by his defense, who will have to prove the ruling was egregious to get the judgment vacated. That’s not easy to do in my experience.

I wouldn't be surprised if they fight it all the way up to SCOTUS, who then vacate the judgment on procedural grounds. Not saying that's going to happen -- only saying that, if it does go down that way, I won't be surprised.

 

[Murdy]

I wouldn't be surprised if they fight it all the way up to SCOTUS, who then vacate the judgment on procedural grounds. Not saying that's going to happen -- only saying that, if it does go down that way, I won't be surprised.

Anything is possible when you have money…. but he would have to win the appeal first.

 

[Murdy]

it's completely impossible after the fact. Wishful thinking otherwise

The Judicial Immunity Doctrine and Judicial Conduct and Disability Act supports this.

 

[Jack]

The Judicial Immunity Doctrine supports this.

That's interesting. In what way?

 

[Murdy]

That's interesting. In what way?

I edited to include the Judicial Conduct and Disability Act while you quoted. Sorry...

give me a few to research

research is my favorite

 

[Murdy]

Trump had 10 days to challenge the order after it was entered, which not appealing would have opened up malpractice against his counsel... so there is that...

Under the law, any person may file a written complaint alleging that a federal judge has engaged in "conduct prejudicial to the effective and expeditious administration of the business of the courts."

A controlling question of law must be included in the interlocutory motion for order (which is either granted or denied upon that hearing inclusive of oral argument from both sides), they must prove there is a substantial ground for difference of opinion (I'll remind everyone now that Judges have a team of law clerks at their disposal who research case law, which they then double check and add to prior to decisions being entered), and the court has 60 days AFTER this motion is filed to rule, which the motion will most likely be denied and THEN they can move onto the appeals round of this game.

His strongest argument in the federal level business fraud case was "there were no victims" - which is an admission to these allegations for all intents and purposes. The argument that the Judge did not properly apply the law and those actions are egregious are null and void due to that omission IMHO.

But he has stacked the deck in his favor...

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

Trump had 10 days to challenge the order after it was entered, which not appealing would have opened up malpractice against his counsel... so there is that...

Under the law, any person may file a written complaint alleging that a federal judge has engaged in "conduct prejudicial to the effective and expeditious administration of the business of the courts."

A controlling question of law must be included in the interlocutory motion for order (which is either granted or denied upon that hearing inclusive of oral argument from both sides), they must prove there is a substantial ground for difference of opinion (I'll remind everyone now that Judges have a team of law clerks at their disposal who research case law, which they then double check and add to prior to decisions being entered), and the court has 60 days AFTER this motion is filed to rule, which the motion will most likely be denied and THEN they can move onto the appeals round of this game.

His strongest argument in the federal level business fraud case was "there were no victims" - which is an admission to these allegations for all intents and purposes. The argument that the Judge did not properly apply the law and those actions are egregious are null and void due to that omission IMHO.

But he has stacked the deck in his favor...

The 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause may be brought up; by rendering a summary judgment before trial, it could be argued that Engoron failed the requirement for impartiality. Maybe; again, I'm not in this to make predictions. This is just an, 'If, then this is How' exploration.

 

[Murdy]

The 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause may be brought up; by rendering a summary judgment before trial, it could be argued that Engeron failed the requirement for impartiality. Maybe; again, I'm not in this to make predictions. This is just an, 'If, then this is How' exploration.

If the prosecution motioned for summary judgment and it was denied then the trial was not delayed, so I don’t see how due process would apply. The summary judgment motion is based on the initial pleading/complaint, which includes all causes of action that need to be addressed by the court. The admission of “there were no victims” appears to be the catalyst for this motion being granted and the prayer for relief aka judgment was ordered.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

The admission of “there were no victims” appears to be the catalyst for this motion being granted and the prayer for relief aka judgment was ordered.

Maybe; might be up for interpretation, though. I'd interpret "there were no victims" as equivalent to, "you have no case."

 

[Murdy]

Maybe; might be up for interpretation, though. I'd interpret "there were no victims" as equivalent to, "you have no case."

in fraud you have to prove there was a victim

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

in fraud you have to prove there was a victim

That's precisely what I'm saying. "There were no victims" = "There is no grounds for a fraud case."

 

[Murdy]

That's precisely what I'm saying. "There were no victims" = "There is no grounds for a fraud case."

The requirement is that the defendant knew the statement was false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

The requirement is that the defendant knew the statement was false or acted with reckless disregard for the truth.

Pretty sure that's the basis for a defamation case, not for a fraud case.

Either way, let me make my position clear on this: Shady business dealings are shady business dealings. Illegal business dealings should be prosecuted -- or not -- regardless of who the target of the prosecution is.

If, as Trump claims, "they all do it", then they should all face civil litigation for doing it. Or none of them should. No case should ever be brought based on who the target of the case is. That's disqualifying bias, in and of itself.

Capricious, politically-expedient prosecutorial selectiveness alone should see this judgment vacated.

 

[Murdy]

Pretty sure that's the basis for a defamation case, not for a fraud case.

Either way, let me make my position clear on this: Shady business dealings are shady business dealings. Illegal business dealings should be prosecuted -- or not -- regardless of who the target of the prosecution is.

If, as Trump claims, "they all do it", then they should all face civil litigation for doing it. Or none of them should. No case should ever be brought based on who the target of the case is. That's disqualifying bias, in and of itself.

Capricious, politically-expedient prosecutorial selectiveness alone should see this judgment vacated.

Google corporate fraud causes of action.