Lily
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The Senate passes the bill to take Courier 6’s social safety net away, sorry bro just grab your bootstraps and pull yourself up buddy!
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A true Conservative would pay down a nation's debts first before embarking on ambitious spending programs @Courier 6
That's like running up a massive credit card debt before the old debt has been paid off.
But I suppose your hero Trump has no intention of paying down America's National debt.
Just like he bankrupted all those companies he'll bankrupt your country too.
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Maybe government should GTFO of meddling with healthcare so that providers are forced to be competitive with their pricing, then.
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Yeah, let's not be like other first world nations and spend our tax dollars on Americans. Never that.
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So many people are afraid to manage their own finances.
They would rather pay high taxes and have the government control everything.
Other people enjoy freedom.
They would rather pay high taxes and have the government control everything.
Other people enjoy freedom.
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Wow! You did it! Your post made healthcare providers compete, which drove down prices! Well done!
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I like how you deflected completely from an easy solution to this problem.
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Why, yes, yes he is. He is only capable of parroting what his betters tell him to parrot I think it has something to do with the conditioning process he underwent to overcome his gag reflex when deep throating a Hobo Cock.
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Lardo Lily is okay with having a million doctors over-charging regular Americans for $100 TRILLION...
But she loses her shit over a couple of billionaire CEOs.
But she loses her shit over a couple of billionaire CEOs.
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Oh.
I was under the impression that the old style Conservatives were very frugal & hated debt.
"A penny saved is a penny earned."
But Trump is running up your nation's National Debt & annual budget deficits @Courier 6
Personally I would pay down the National debt to avoid greater pain later on.
You know how come I know this?
I almost went broke 'liberally' running up my credit cards. at one point my credit score was 420 out of 850 or 900
I never went broke nor required a debt settlement .
But I almost went bankrupt. so I def learned my lesson. I was practically living off of canned soup.
Mind you I've known others not so fortunate. theyve declared bankruptcy and they never fully recovered.
BTW I'm not a Conservative but even I know that fiscal frugality is part of traditional Conservativism.
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And I like how you obliviously ignored an alternative, equally easy solution to the problem. Well done!
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You're delusional if you think that is a solution to anything.
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I was much younger then Lex @The Prowler
Luckily I had time to make up for that deficit.
It's like being behind 3-0 in the 2nd period of hockey. A person's got the 3rd period to catch, tie & beat the other team.
So I caught up & even the score Prowler.
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Yeah, it's totally delusional to propose that competitors try to undercut each others' prices.
I blame that delusion on reality where that's exactly what happens every time. Damn reality!
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Yeah, it's totally delusional to propose that competitors try to undercut each others' prices.
I blame that delusion on reality where that's exactly what happens every time. Damn reality!
You come up with simplistic solutions to complex problems. It's a shame really. You seem capable of more. But a trolls gotta troll, why actually discuss a problem in real terms?
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I come up with solutions to problems people want to muddy the fuck out of the water about so that no solution is ever forthcoming.
"It's dark in here."
"So turn the light on."
"It's not that simple! We need to form a committee to form a committee to form an advisory panel to commission a 10 year study about the ethics and social dynamics of illumination levels, and then --"
*click*
Simple problems have simple solutions. Overcomplicating simple problems is a tactic used to prevent the emergence of solutions, and it's almost invariably done by people who are actively profiting from the persistence of the problem.
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Nope. Our healthcare system is one of the most dysfunctional and complicated, in the world, by government bureaucracy, corporate bureaucracy both at the insurance and employer level...it's a shit show.
Thinking that we can just do one thing and it's magically better, is delusional and escapism.
There's no use discussing this any further, however. You live in your delusional world. It's what some people do best.
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Just for funsicles, here's Friday's take:
Well now, Boss, that's a rather pointed exchange, isn't it? Let's break it down, shall we?
Analysis of the Exchange
Person 1 starts with an accusation: "You come up with simplistic solutions to complex problems." This is a classic move, often used to dismiss an idea without actually engaging with its merits. It implies a lack of depth or understanding on the part of Person 2.
Person 2, however, doesn't take the bait. They retort with: "I come up with solutions to problems people want to muddy the f* out of the water about so that no solution is ever forthcoming."** This is a strong counter-argument. Person 2 isn't denying simplicity, but rather reframing it as a virtue in the face of deliberate obfuscation. They're basically saying, "My solutions are simple because the problem is simple, and you're just making it complicated to avoid solving it."
The anecdote about turning on the light perfectly illustrates Person 2's point. The "committee to form a committee" scenario is a spot-on caricature of bureaucratic inaction and over-analysis, often employed to maintain the status quo. The simple solution, click, is presented as the obvious and effective response to a perceived complexity.
Underlying Argument
The core argument being made by Person 2 and reinforced by the anecdote is that some problems are intentionally made to appear complex when they are, in fact, simple. The implication is that this overcomplication serves a purpose: to prevent solutions from emerging. And, most importantly, the final sentence lays bare the cynical motivation: "It's almost invariably done by people who are actively profiting from the persistence of the problem."
This isn't just about different approaches to problem-solving; it's an accusation of self-serving motives. It suggests that those who insist on "complexity" are often doing so because the problem itself is financially or politically advantageous to them.
My Take
Honestly, Boss, I find Person 2's argument to be quite compelling. There's a real tendency in the world to intellectualize problems to the point of paralysis. Sometimes, the most effective solution is the most straightforward one, and the resistance to it often comes from those who benefit from the existing disarray. It's not always about finding the most intricate solution; sometimes it's about having the courage to implement the obvious one, even if it disrupts the comfortable chaos some have created.
It's a reminder that not every "complex" problem is inherently so; sometimes, the complexity is a smokescreen.
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That's actually exactly the same basis for my point, you goofy-ass balloon. Eliminate 'government' as a customer so that healthcare providers have to reduce their prices to affordability by people instead.
Lily
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There's no need for name calling. There really isn't.
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ARM THE POOR
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Jesus, you dizzy fuckers want to 'eat the rich' -- but if it means breaking up Corporatism, you don't even want to mildly inconvenience the rich.
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Gas light much? Don’t flatter yourself thinking you know my thoughts welfare daddy
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Sounds reasonable until you realize in a predatory capitalist system what the oligarchs and their apologists mean by "turn on the light" is setting 90% of the people in the room on fire.
That 'warm glow' favored by the parasitic classes isn't illumination; it's incineration.
It is known.
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And yet you sit there blindly telling libruls what they think. Logically inconsistent much?
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I comment on what you post. Do the math.
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The "poor" in America are already armed, you fuckwit.
ARM THE POOR
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That's corporatism. That's a system where the moneyed elite select public officials, who then select the market's winners and losers.
I'm suggesting ending that. And Lily (et al.,) objects to ending it, on the excuse that it's "simplifying" -- when, really, it's just not overcomplicating it.
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