Trump continues to prove what a Great Human Being he is

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Some of us have been saying that for literally years or even decades but the rest of ya have done this to ourselves anyway.

We have the government we deserve and no amount of red/vs/blue politics is going to fundamentally change anything.
Yes. I have been saying this for years, also, as some posters on here can attest. I think the DNC is a shitstain, and I know virtually all members of Congress are corporate tools. I am not a Dem, as I have explained over and over here.

But the havoc Trump is wreaking is simply unacceptable. The man doesn't have one single redeeming quality, and the brain-deadedness of his base is absolutely terrifying. He needs to be OUT of the WH, ASAP. This is not going to end well for any part of the planet.

Once we get rid of him, hopefully we can get enough Americans working to eliminate the two-party system for some real change to be made.
 

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"Now is not the time"
"Okay but first..."
"We have to keep our powder dry"
"It's a two-party system and that's just all there is to it"
"You have to vote for (X) because (Y) is even worse"

That shit is how we got here.

Anything other than abandoning the duopoly PERIOD is only going to result in further decline and inevitably more Trump-like figures or more Biden-like figures and back and forth ad nauseam. If you find yourself in a pit the most important thing is to STOP FUCKING DIGGING and *then* decide how you're going to climb out.
 

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We have the same problem here with the 2 party/uni-party crap. It's either Labour or Conservative, no other party has a chance thanks to the outdated first past the post voting system. A party can receive millions of votes but still only gain a handful of seats in parliament.
 

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"Now is not the time"
"Okay but first..."
"We have to keep our powder dry"
"It's a two-party system and that's just all there is to it"
"You have to vote for (X) because (Y) is even worse"

That shit is how we got here.

Anything other than abandoning the duopoly PERIOD is only going to result in further decline and inevitably more Trump-like figures or more Biden-like figures and back and forth ad nauseam. If you find yourself in a pit the most important thing is to STOP FUCKING DIGGING and *then* decide how you're going to climb out.

I'd go with more Bush like figures or more Biden like figures instead.

Trump is more of a centrist wild card or really old school Democrat. He offends both sides equally well.

There are alternatives to the two party system but none of those won't and sometimes shouldn't be available to the voters.

....not unless secession, state by state is palatable.

I think it is... I think it's already been happening and has never stopped since the 1850's.

Abraham Lincoln broke the US and poisoned the well in order to maintain borders at any cost.

I don't hate the man but I want to spit when I hear his name.
 

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I'd go with more Bush like figures or more Biden like figures instead.

Trump is more of a centrist wild card or really old school Democrat. He offends both sides equally well.

There are alternatives to the two party system but none of those won't and sometimes shouldn't be available to the voters.

....not unless secession, state by state is palatable.

I think it is... I think it's already been happening and has never stopped since the 1850's.

Abraham Lincoln broke the US and poisoned the well in order to maintain borders at any cost.

I don't hate the man but I want to spit when I hear his name.
Since you’ve exiled your sorry self, what good is fatso to ya? Cool how you fuck your self over
 

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There! That's my fill of unhinged TDS mental cases for the day.

Can't wait for the "revolution" to see all the cool videos of shrieking obese childless cat ladies and effeminate latte soy boys wearing their kaffiyas as they cosplay.
 

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There! That's my fill of unhinged TDS mental cases for the day.

Can't wait for the "revolution" to see all the cool videos of shrieking obese childless cat ladies and effeminate latte soy boys wearing their kaffiyas as they cosplay.
Today, you are a breath of fresh air.

It seems you, I believe, don't believe that I hate you because your politics are shit. Lol
 

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There! That's my fill of unhinged TDS mental cases for the day.

Can't wait for the "revolution" to see all the cool videos of shrieking obese childless cat ladies and effeminate latte soy boys wearing their kaffiyas as they cosplay.
Easy to see youre stuck in your freezer box. Do you share it with other tenants?
 

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Well, in all honesty, Lily, you're not as insane of some of your fellow Democrats. ;)

I was a poli sci major as an undergrad, I shared the story in another thread. I had big debates in classes with my fellow poli sci classmate who was the president of the College Republicans. But, we would leave our class and then discuss assignments, papers, exams...we were friendly and if we saw each other on campus we'd chit chat or wave hello.

Politics shouldn't be personal. Also, I have debates most days with my partner about politics. Often quite passionate disagreements...but then we will revert to regular discussion.

One time we got into a rather heated debate in front of some acquaintances, he's not always as good as I am about separating politics from other things in life, and one of them asked "How do you guys make it work?" I looked at her inability to understand that debate doesn't equate to hate as fairly narrow minded, so I did what I do best and answered:

"We consider it foreplay." She turned beet red because my partner, and hers, found it both funny and roared in laughter.

I still smile when I remember that story. You just can't hate people for thinking differently, you've lost the plot if you have. It's about persuasion and not control, imho.