Ukraine is fucked

[Lily]

Oh, now I realize why this board is almost nothing other than thread after thread of vitriolic hatred of Trump, his administration, and Americans generally (in that order). Twitter metastasized, and as per the general aftermath of such things, the cancer just spread -- including to this board.

 

[The Prowler]

Oh, now I realize why this board is almost nothing other than thread after thread of vitriolic hatred of Trump, his administration, and Americans generally (in that order). Twitter metastasized, and as per the general aftermath of such things, the cancer just spread -- including to this board.

It took you a while.

 

[Adam Hitler]

We're making jokes but there are some sick fucks out there who are child predators and some of them post on internet forums.

Who's to say @Adam Hitler isn't one of them?

He sure sounds like it.

Good thing is if he's posting here he's not driving around in his white van.

Sorry, but who the fuck are you?

Admin has years of posting extremely suspect content under his belt.... let me guess, you're another pro-LGBT, MAP-apologist who believes there is 69 different genders?

What I said about Ukraine is factually correct. The country does have a massive problem with CP and human/organ trafficking, along with huge levels of corruption. Its telling how the mere mention of this gets leftoids seething...

 

[Adam Hitler]

I’ve got the tv on CNN

Naturally.

 

[Adam Hitler]

I don't like to talk about this but in fact I'm an icecreamaholic.

If I open the carton sometimes I can't stop until I'm scraping the bottom with the spoon.

Sometimes I've got such a bad stomach ache I miss work the next day and it's affected my social relationships.

If you're the "maaam" with hairy breasts who used to date Admin, you've got worse things to be worrying about than a junk food habit.

 

[Seamajor]

Gotta love the unbridled narcissism. "I don't care about principles or anybody other than myself! It must be that nobody else possibly could, either!"

Try the Ukrainians. Listen, remove the fat diaper wearing ignorant ass, and his lover Arnold Palmer out of your brain. It will be more meaningful

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

Try the Ukrainians.

On what charges?

Listen, remove the most delicious woman I’ve ever laid my eyes on! diaper wearing ignorant ass, and his lover Arnold Palmer out of your brain. It will be more meaningful

Why don't you try doing the same? You, and many others here, have a sort of lens through which all of your perceptions and reactions are being filtered; to wit:

See news: Hate Trump.
Before analyzing news: Hate Trump.
Before reacting: Hate Trump.
To the exclusion of any other thought: Hate Trump.

I've pointed out his flaws. I've made it clear that I don't care much for his character as a person. But I also know when the other guy in the room is exhibiting those same flaws, too. You can't manage that, can you.

You care about the Ukrainians? Fantastic. You should be pulling for the removal of a guy who wants to prolong a war as long as he possibly can, for his own enrichment, with no regard for his people.

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

Zelensky Calls Oval Office Meeting ‘Regrettable,’ Says He Is Ready to Negotiate, Thanks Trump​

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4 Mar 2025351
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Tuesday he was ready to come to the negotiating table to begin peace talks and expressed regret over last week’s meeting at the White House where he sparred with President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance and blew a minerals deal with the U.S.
Zelensky wrote on X:

I would like to reiterate Ukraine’s commitment to peace.
None of us wants an endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer. Nobody wants peace more than Ukrainians. My team and I stand ready to work under President Trump’s strong leadership to get a peace that lasts.

The tone was very different than the last 10 minutes of the meeting in the Oval Office with Trump, Vance, and other members of the cabinet who have worked to get Russia and Ukraine into peace talks, beginning with a U.S.-Ukraine mineral deal.
The meeting began amicably and went on for about 40 minutes without issue, until a Polish reporter asked Trump about being “close” to Putin. Trump initially responded, and Vance jumped in with a response, and then Zelensky challenged Vance.
Zelensky issued a warning that the U.S. would “feel it” if it did not provide security to Ukraine, prompting Trump to jump in. The discussion quickly turned into a row, with Trump booting Zelensky from the White House without a minerals deal meant to give the U.S. access to critical minerals in Ukraine in exchange for economic and possibly military aid.
Trump argued that Zelensky was not ready to negotiate for peace.
In his post, Zelensky said, “We are ready to work fast to end the war,” and laid out possible first steps — the release of prisoners, and an air and sea ceasefire.
“Then we want to move very fast through all next stages and to work with the US to agree a strong final deal,” Zelensky added.
He then expressed gratitude to the U.S., and Trump personally, and expressed regret for the way the Oval Office meeting went.
“We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.
“Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive,” he said.
He said “regarding the agreement on minerals and security” that “Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively.”

 

[Worksman]

Sorry, but who the fuck are you?

I ask myself that same question sometimes.

It's not an easy answer.

 

[X]

I ask myself that same question sometimes.

It's not an easy answer.

It isn’t?? You’re a faggot!! That wasn’t hard at all

 

[Jack]

Donald Trump is reportedly furious because his latest threats to leave NATO have backfired as European leaders are proposing to replace the US in NATO with Ukraine, start curb stomping Russia all together, and then make Trump utterly irrelevant in all the negotiations.

Zelensky offering his resignation in exchange for peace or NATO membership is such a masterclass in leadership for the world. It's such a shame he has to deal with the 21st Century's stupidest, most blatantly self-interested and corrupt leader,
Donald Trump.

Ukrainians are fighting for independence, liberty, and democracy, and Trump is betraying them. Who knows what he's selling them out for, but whatever Putin is giving is stunningly less than the value of Ukrainians' courage, yearning for freedom, and eagerness to be a US ally.

Trump and MAGA are unfortunately just not very educated about global politics and history. It's easy when you live in

America not to think much about the rest of the world, and I think their

isolationism comes from that ignorance with Trump as their
Dunning-Kruger mascot.

Sadly, though, they're sabotaging America's global power, and wasting the national security opportunity of our generation because of their cheering on Trump's innate compulsion to be a dick to everyone except the dick totalitarian dictators he idolizes and wants to like him.

The unfortunate fact the fascist isolationists can't hide forever is that European peace affects

American peace. America learned that lesson many times over several generations last century leading to a hegemonic triumph over totalitarianism, and now MAGA morons are making us have to learn it again.

Slava Ukraini. Trump and MAGA are wrong and pyrrhically unAmerican. To tell a rhyme with history, Ukraine is this century's Second Spanish Republic, and America flipping to team fascism is a disgrace unparalleled in modern presidential history.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Good. I'm all for withdrawing from NATO and returning all of our military personnel and equipment back home where it belongs.

If whomever scribbled that screed cares about Ukraine so much, why hasn't he gone there to volunteer to fight for the country he loves so much?

THAT'S an Internationalist?Globalist/Leftist, jack. Such people do not put the best interests of the United States first.

 

[Jack]

Good. I'm all for withdrawing from NATO and returning all of our military personnel and equipment back home where it belongs.

If whomever scribbled that screed cares about Ukraine so much, why hasn't he gone there to volunteer to fight for the country he loves so much?

THAT'S an Internationalist?Globalist/Leftist, jack. Such people do not put the best interests of the United States first.

I still dont have an opinion. I'm just interested in perspectives. I hear Trump all day and all mainstream/legacy is now an echo chamber.

I hope everybody figures it out.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

I still dont have an opinion. I'm just interested in perspectives. I hear Trump all day and all mainstream/legacy is now an echo chamber.

I hope everybody figures it out.

We are cursed to live in interesting times. These are historic times and all of us are just along for the ride.

 

[Blandscape]

 

[Reggie_Essent]

 

[Blandscape]

 

[The Prowler]

Donald Trump is reportedly furious because his latest threats to leave NATO have backfired as European leaders are proposing to replace the US in NATO with Ukraine, start curb stomping Russia all together, and then make Trump utterly irrelevant in all the negotiations.

Zelensky offering his resignation in exchange for peace or NATO membership is such a masterclass in leadership for the world. It's such a shame he has to deal with the 21st Century's stupidest, most blatantly self-interested and corrupt leader,
Donald Trump.

Ukrainians are fighting for independence, liberty, and democracy, and Trump is betraying them. Who knows what he's selling them out for, but whatever Putin is giving is stunningly less than the value of Ukrainians' courage, yearning for freedom, and eagerness to be a US ally.

Trump and MAGA are unfortunately just not very educated about global politics and history. It's easy when you live in

America not to think much about the rest of the world, and I think their

isolationism comes from that ignorance with Trump as their
Dunning-Kruger mascot.

Sadly, though, they're sabotaging America's global power, and wasting the national security opportunity of our generation because of their cheering on Trump's innate compulsion to be a dick to everyone except the dick totalitarian dictators he idolizes and wants to like him.

The unfortunate fact the fascist isolationists can't hide forever is that European peace affects

American peace. America learned that lesson many times over several generations last century leading to a hegemonic triumph over totalitarianism, and now MAGA morons are making us have to learn it again.

Slava Ukraini. Trump and MAGA are wrong and pyrrhically unAmerican. To tell a rhyme with history, Ukraine is this century's Second Spanish Republic, and America flipping to team fascism is a disgrace unparalleled in modern presidential history.

Only 328 problems with that post.

 

[The Prowler]

Good. I'm all for withdrawing from NATO and returning all of our military personnel and equipment back home where it belongs.

What kind of an idiot thinks that is a "backfire"?

That would be the best thing for the USA.

If whomever scribbled that screed cares about Ukraine so much, why hasn't he gone there to volunteer to fight for the country he loves so much?

Because they are all talk and no action.

THAT'S an Internationalist?Globalist/Leftist, jack. Such people do not put the best interests of the United States first.

That is what Trump understands, but he cannot say out loud. Yet.

This is all intended to be just another step by the UN/NATO/EU towards a One World Government.

 

[Joe]

ÒThis is all intended to be just another step by the UN/NATO/EU towards a One World Government.

I don't think that will happen Lex @The Prowler

There's simply too many differences between nations and cultures

Whenever any Empire or nation has tried to do that they have failed.

What's more likely is a multipolar world with 3 or possibly 4 major power blocs

Europe Canada & Australia/NZ might be aligned.

USA/Greater Israel/Latin America

Russia/China/BRICS

...and possibly a Muslim/Islamic bloc

That's what I see comin.

Feel free to agree or disagree.

Just an opinion tho

 

[The Prowler]

Feel free to agree or disagree.

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

 

[Joe]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

I
Well I don't think your projection of a 1 world government is realistic Lex @The Prowler

I've seen it mentioned often but don't think it will happen

 

[The Prowler]

Well I don't think your projection of a 1 world government

And where did I project a One World Government?

Cọrvette

Senile

 

[Joe]

And where did I project a One World Government?

Cọrvette

Senile

You said:

"This is all intended to be just another step by the UN/NATO/EU towards a One World Government."

 

[The Prowler]

You said:

"This is all intended to be just another step by the UN/NATO/EU towards a One World Government."

Yeah.

And in your mind that is a projection?

Remember I told you a long time ago that you need to learn to read, process, and understand?

You did not take my advice.

 

[Joe]

Yeah.

And in your mind that is a projection?

Remember I told you a long time ago that you need to learn to read, process, and understand?

You did not take my advice.

Same time you said that the Trump tariffs would be good for the American economy & Canada Lex @The Prowler

But look it yer stock portfolio Lex.

Its tanking every day since the tarrifs were announced

Do you consider a haircut of 20, 30 % or more 'winning' Lex?

And now I see all these videos of Ontario realtors moaning how the Real Estate market is tanking where you live Lex.

So yer gettin poorer because of Trump.

If your stock portfolio loses value & the value of your home then the net value of your assets have declined at least 25% since last year Lex. Just like your muscle car

But your man got in & now you are 'winning Lex.

That's all that matters even if the ultraconservative mostly Republican money managers on Wall Street are pissed off about the markets tanking Lex

 

[The Prowler]

Same time you said that the Trump tariffs would be good for the American economy & Canada Lex @The Prowler

But look it yer stock portfolio Lex.

Its tanking every day since the tarrifs were announced

Do you consider a haircut of 20, 30 % or more 'winning' Lex?

And now I see all these videos of Ontario realtors moaning how the Real Estate market is tanking where you live Lex.

So yer gettin poorer because of Trump.

If your stock portfolio loses value & the value of your home then the net value of your assets have declined at least 25% since last year Lex. Just like your muscle car

But your man got in & now you are 'winning Lex.

That's all that matters even if the ultraconservative mostly Republican money managers on Wall Street are pissed off about the markets tanking Lex

So you do understand that what I said about a One World Government was not a projection, right?

 

[Joe]

So you do understand that what I said about a One World Government was not a projection, right?

But you appear to suggest that it is a possibility Lex @The Prowler

Im just saying that it could never happen even if its proponents wanted it

Thats why Trump’s dream of a North American Empire & Putin’s Russia’s revived Soviet Empire will fail Lex

Just like 1 world government they are unrealistic Lex

 

[Mr. Wednesday]

I just have to know, Joe

Why do you keep using his name in every line, Joe?

Is it so you don't forget who you're posting to, Joe?

 

[The Prowler]

So you do understand that what I said about a One World Government was not a projection, right?

Blah blah blah

It is a Yes/No question, you goof.