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USA & Israel launch attack on Iran
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Holy Holliday !
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320M citizens of US. 160M individuals file tax returns.
. Individual taxpayer pays approx 80% of taxes in the US.
8T / 320M = 25K
8T / 160M = 50K
50K X 0.8 = 40K
40K / 2 = 20K per taxpayer
20K / 2 = 10K per citizen
Now some may say that this is spread over time it isn't so much, but consider what that money might have been used for at current non-inflated costs, or how it might have been invested etc. It's remains a significant amount to many people...
...but hey, they are just little people. Who cares about them?
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Holy Holliday !
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(Iraqi yellowcake anyone?)
Confusion on whether Iran truly needed only “” to make a nuclear weapon, as President Donald Trump suggested on Monday, hangs over on the Persian Gulf nation. Nuclear experts call this claim unlikely—but the confusion may stem from some basics of atomic chemistry.
“There was no evidence that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon,” says of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the . His comment echoed those of after the war’s start, as well as statements from International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief at that time and and last year’s “” report by U.S. intelligence agencies.
According to an IAEA , as of June 2025, Iran possessed 441 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium, where the percentage refers to the share of the isotope uranium 235 (U 235) found in the material. That would be enough for 10 nuclear weapons if the material could be enriched further to full 90 percent weapons-grade concentrations, according to the IAEA. That further enrichment would take a matter of in a fully functioning Iranian , perhaps explaining the time line within Trump’s declaration.
That step alone doesn’t equal a bomb, however. And Iran’s main enrichment capabilities were “completely and ,” according to Trump himself in June, after the U.S. . The administration’s special envoy to the Middle East nonetheless claimed on March 3, after the start of the current war, that Iran had the capability to make 11 nuclear bombs. Trump administration officials to include nuclear technical experts in their negotiation teams with Iran prior to the war, adding to the uncertainty. If Iran really had rebuilt these facilities, that might have led—over months and not weeks—to the nation resuming its uranium enrichment, Lewis says. “But this is all ‘if,’ ‘maybe’ and ‘later,’” he adds.
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Larry Loungelizard
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Does anyone remember how for a couple of decades Netanyahu claimed that Iran was only 6 months away from getting an operational warhead? Yeah, I really believe him. Book it.
The Prowler
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Reggie_Essent
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Holy Holliday !
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Trust me, Reggie, no one here comes close to despising islam as much as I do. I'm certainly not one who respects it enough to capitalize the word as you do. Why do you respect islam, Reggie?
The Prowler
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Reggie_Essent
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I usually follow the AP style book. Bad habit, I know.
Holy Holliday !
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Holy Holliday !
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Key takeaways
- Today’s oil shock is largest in history.
- The United States probably can’t clear the Strait of Hormuz without ending its war with Iran.
- Rising oil prices will slow industrial activity and raise food costs.
- Markets may be too optimistic about how quickly the war’s impacts can be reversed.
In terms of barrels taken off the market, this is the largest supply shock in history by at least a factor of two. The only one that comes close is the 1979 shock, which also involved Iran, and which caused oil prices to more than double. But the current disruption — 20 million barrels a day unable to flow for over a week — is twice that size in real terms.
So, we’re very much in an unprecedented situation. Which is part of why markets have struggled to interpret it. For years, Iran has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz and it never happened. On some level, I think traders came to believe that Iran would never really do it. Now, many believe that it’s a situation that won’t last much longer despite the fact that we’re in the second week and it doesn’t show any signs of ending.
Reggie_Essent
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Fixed it for you.
The Question
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Leftists: "How DURRR you stop funding our USAID money-laundering to save taxpayer money!"
Leftists nine months later: "How DURRR you spend taxpayer money to eliminate a theocratic dictatorship that threatens American interests!"
It's never about what they're yelling about, which is why their yelling is never coherent or consistent.
Leftists nine months later: "How DURRR you spend taxpayer money to eliminate a theocratic dictatorship that threatens American interests!"
It's never about what they're yelling about, which is why their yelling is never coherent or consistent.
The fact you want gas lines like the 70s to justify your total hatred of Trump is all I need to see.
To you Trump is the greatest threat to democacy who should be disposed while Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei is the greatest threat to democracy whom should be left alone is again all I need to see.
The very fact you want to decry change through the the kaleidoscope of fear means you don't feel confident. The right saying illegals is no different than you saying the price of gas
Disgusting.
Defend your position. Or fall back.
Holy Holliday !
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You certainly are.
What's this war about?
Nukes?
Helping the oppressed in Iran?
Oil?
It really reminds of the Iraq war - yellowcake, regime change, oil. Take yer pick. What appeals to you most?
Let's see, There is zero evidence that Iran has nuke grade uranium or the means to make it...ZERO.
No one on the right ever expressed any concern over repression in Iran. Actually, and of course you can look it up, I was the only person here to write about it. It's convenient for contards to preach righteously now and they will because the Trump Ministry of Truth has told them to.
..and hey, this is all great for American oil companies. BIGLY big profits to come.
..but is any of that really what is going on, or is it something else I have already mentioned?
Holy Holliday !
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From Quora:
Dan Razin Caine, the chairman of Chiefs of Staff, warned Trump that a war against Iran could lead to a broader conflict dragging other great powers such as Russia and China to the scene. The general advised Trump to keep the military action as short as possible and without prolonging it beyond a week or so. But Donald Trump refused as he promised Netanyahu a more broader and fierce action.
As social media was abuzz with such narrations of General Caine, Trump didn’t make it late to respond via his truth social handle. He admired the General and said he would do exactly as he would say, he would lead the pack whenever he would order to. The status Trump gave in response was more of an assertion rather than a friendly complement we think. Exactly how politicians typically warn their subordinates in a polite & elegant way!
General Caine argued that USA's munitions were already depleted, especially interceptors and defence munitions which it largely supplied to Ukraine and Israel. Caine also believed the situation was a bit of puzzling as Iran is demonstrating resilience against all odds stacked upon it. The general thinks that allies may not help US forces there if things get chaotic and if Russia or China backs Iran up with technologies which US is not aware of, things can get pretty bad. He mainly referred to the possibility of Iran acquiring anti-ship missiles from Russia, or perhaps any other sophisticated techs from anti-US alliances.
Trump however has reiterated his previous claim that nothing could stop USA from achieving its goals. President is adamant to make Iran submit.
Holy Holliday !
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Reggie_Essent
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Since when do you care what any General has to say about anything?
Oh wait! Wasn't the Wesley Clark faggot a Leftist lollipop a few years back?
Breakfall
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Oi fuckwit… stop being stupid and see this war was an imperative necessity for our civilised future. You’re a fucking dipstick …keep sucking on woke penises and stay out of our lane. Conservatives are working here…
Holy Holliday !
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You know, the one nice thing about Brainfail is that you don't have to wind him up.
.. He comes pre-wound. LoLz
.. He comes pre-wound. LoLz
The Prowler
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Holiday just likes to whine.
He agrees with attacking Iran.
The first thing he has been right about in a long time.
He agrees with attacking Iran.
The first thing he has been right about in a long time.
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Joe
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So really...it was better to gradually destabilize Iran over time as the sanctions were actually working @Holy Holliday ! Iranians were rioting in the streets against the regime even thinking the USA was on THEIR side. But now that Trump killed all those ordinary Iranian citizens he destroyed that perception. Plus he didn't build an alliance with the Kurds in Iran who could have waged a proxy war against the regime.
Regardless of whether they are evil or not, now the regime will never leave & they will be more determined to build or obtain a nuclear bomb. They have nothing to lose by continuing to fight otherwise they end up in some prison camp like Maduro. If I were them I wouldn't stop fighting either.
Trump didn't play this right. He used his trump card & your taxpayer money to wage this war too soon Holliday
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Trump has handed the keys over to the Democrats at the end of the year. He's as sharp as many of the conservative minds here at this fine establishment.
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4 more dead @Reggie_Essent
Ahhh, what's a few dead Americans when there's school kids to be bombed, right?
Four of six crew members died after a U.S. military KC-135 refueling aircraft that was part of the American war against Iran crashed in neighboring Iraq, United States Central Command on Friday.
In a statement, it said that rescue efforts were continuing and that the circumstances of the crash were under investigation, but added that “the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.”
The deaths brought the number of U.S. service members in operations related to the Iran conflict to at least 11.
Central Command did not immediately identify the four crew members who were killed, pending notification to their families.
It said on Thursday that an incident involving two aircraft had “occurred in friendly airspace,” and one aircraft went down, while the other landed safely.
The last American occurred in 2013. In that incident, a K-135, taking part in refueling missions over Afghanistan, crashed soon after departure from the Manas airport in the Central Asian state of Kyrgyzstan. Three airmen died in the incident.
The KC-135s are among the most heavily used aircraft in the Air Force’s arsenal, and among its oldest airframes. The planes are used to refuel all kinds of aircraft to include fighter jets, surveillance planes and cargo aircraft.
A U.S. official said that the other plane involved in the collision was also a KC-135, which landed safely.
Air-to-air refueling missions are performed regularly by Air Force pilots and mishaps are rare. But the maneuver is still challenging, especially in bad weather or high winds. Investigators suspect a midair collision may have caused the crash, but details are still murky, Air Force officials said. The inquiry is still going on along with a search and rescue effort to locate the downed crew.
The western Iraq region where the plane crashed consists mostly of isolated desert.
This is the fourth manned aircraft to be downed since Operation Epic Fury began in late February, though none of the crashes were caused by hostile Iranian fire. Three Air Force fighters were shot down by in early March.
Ahhh, what's a few dead Americans when there's school kids to be bombed, right?
Four of six crew members died after a U.S. military KC-135 refueling aircraft that was part of the American war against Iran crashed in neighboring Iraq, United States Central Command on Friday.
In a statement, it said that rescue efforts were continuing and that the circumstances of the crash were under investigation, but added that “the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire or friendly fire.”
The deaths brought the number of U.S. service members in operations related to the Iran conflict to at least 11.
Central Command did not immediately identify the four crew members who were killed, pending notification to their families.
It said on Thursday that an incident involving two aircraft had “occurred in friendly airspace,” and one aircraft went down, while the other landed safely.
The last American occurred in 2013. In that incident, a K-135, taking part in refueling missions over Afghanistan, crashed soon after departure from the Manas airport in the Central Asian state of Kyrgyzstan. Three airmen died in the incident.
The KC-135s are among the most heavily used aircraft in the Air Force’s arsenal, and among its oldest airframes. The planes are used to refuel all kinds of aircraft to include fighter jets, surveillance planes and cargo aircraft.
A U.S. official said that the other plane involved in the collision was also a KC-135, which landed safely.
Air-to-air refueling missions are performed regularly by Air Force pilots and mishaps are rare. But the maneuver is still challenging, especially in bad weather or high winds. Investigators suspect a midair collision may have caused the crash, but details are still murky, Air Force officials said. The inquiry is still going on along with a search and rescue effort to locate the downed crew.
The western Iraq region where the plane crashed consists mostly of isolated desert.
This is the fourth manned aircraft to be downed since Operation Epic Fury began in late February, though none of the crashes were caused by hostile Iranian fire. Three Air Force fighters were shot down by in early March.
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Holy Holliday !
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Another islamist attack in the US - Michigan.
. Thanks Trump. Keeping Americans safe.
You want an omelette, a few eggs gonna get broke.
. Thanks Trump. Keeping Americans safe.
You want an omelette, a few eggs gonna get broke.
Reggie_Essent
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Midair refueling operations are inherently dangerous. It appears in this case the plane being refueled clipped the tanker. That plane landed safely but the tanker went down, killing four crewman.
Is that Trump's fault?
So a Jihadi doing Jihadi stuff is Trump's fault too?
So, who let the Jihadi in here in the first place? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Trump.
The Prowler
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The Prowler
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This could have happened anywhere at anytime. Military personnel die during training exercises regularly.
