Vaccine is bad juju

[Blazor]

That's not legal in the US.....you have to consent to the possibility of placebo. Plus we passed that double blind stage quick because we had SO many willing people to get it.

Either way, I know we got the real deal because me and the kid feel like shit today lol. Sore throat, body aches. Just yuck lol.

I was hoping to skip this but eh. At least we know it excited our immune systems lol

I tried to tell y'all not to get it

 

[Dove]

That's not legal in the US.....you have to consent to the possibility of placebo. Plus we passed that double blind stage quick because we had SO many willing people to get it.

Either way, I know we got the real deal because me and the kid feel like shit today lol. Sore throat, body aches. Just yuck lol.

I was hoping to skip this but eh. At least we know it excited our immune systems lol

I tried to tell y'all not to get it

I'm not worried at all, Blaze! I had Covid, we probably all had it, so I knew we would probably feel like shit lol.

I just wanted to hold off until we had more data and thanks to Florida.....we got enough data for me to feel comfortable doing it.

I really didnt want the Pfizer or Moderna. I think the technology is awesome and I hope it shows to be reliable.

It's normal to feel rough after a vaccine, and it's actually a good thing because you know it excited your immune system. All the uncomfortable symptoms we get from an infection, are a result of our immune response. Fever, all of it. That's your body fighting it off. So since a vaccine is exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of live or synthetic virus(J&J contains no corona virus but it introduces your immune system to the protein), you would expect to have some symptoms.

If I dont feel at least icky after a shot, I worry if it worked.

 

[Blazor]

That's not legal in the US.....you have to consent to the possibility of placebo. Plus we passed that double blind stage quick because we had SO many willing people to get it.

Either way, I know we got the real deal because me and the kid feel like shit today lol. Sore throat, body aches. Just yuck lol.

I was hoping to skip this but eh. At least we know it excited our immune systems lol

I tried to tell y'all not to get it

I'm not worried at all, Blaze! I had Covid, we probably all had it, so I knew we would probably feel like shit lol.

I just wanted to hold off until we had more data and thanks to Florida.....we got enough data for me to feel comfortable doing it.

I really didnt want the Pfizer or Moderna. I think the technology is awesome and I hope it shows to be reliable.

It's normal to feel rough after a vaccine, and it's actually a good thing because you know it excited your immune system. All the uncomfortable symptoms we get from an infection, are a result of our immune response. Fever, all of it. That's your body fighting it off. So since a vaccine is exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of live or synthetic virus(J&J contains no corona virus but it introduces your immune system to the protein), you would expect to have some symptoms.

If I dont feel at least icky after a shot, I worry if it worked.

You and your family were to suppose to avoid the death jab

 

[Adam Hitler]

Dove seriously WTF?

Were you pressured into this decision or something?

 

[Blazor]

After ALLLLLL the videos and info I have posted.

 

[Adam Hitler]

Sad meATs. :(

 

[Dove]

That's not legal in the US.....you have to consent to the possibility of placebo. Plus we passed that double blind stage quick because we had SO many willing people to get it.

Either way, I know we got the real deal because me and the kid feel like shit today lol. Sore throat, body aches. Just yuck lol.

I was hoping to skip this but eh. At least we know it excited our immune systems lol

I tried to tell y'all not to get it

I'm not worried at all, Blaze! I had Covid, we probably all had it, so I knew we would probably feel like shit lol.

I just wanted to hold off until we had more data and thanks to Florida.....we got enough data for me to feel comfortable doing it.

I really didnt want the Pfizer or Moderna. I think the technology is awesome and I hope it shows to be reliable.

It's normal to feel rough after a vaccine, and it's actually a good thing because you know it excited your immune system. All the uncomfortable symptoms we get from an infection, are a result of our immune response. Fever, all of it. That's your body fighting it off. So since a vaccine is exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of live or synthetic virus(J&J contains no corona virus but it introduces your immune system to the protein), you would expect to have some symptoms.

If I dont feel at least icky after a shot, I worry if it worked.

You and your family were to suppose to avoid the death jab

It's not a death jab, Blazer. It really isnt.

I totally understand why people do not trust this and are very hesitant and I'm firmly in the CHOICE camp. I absolutely do NOT agree with the government coercing or bribing citizens into getting this vaccine... or ANY medical intervention.

In fact I blame them for the anxiety and rejection people have and i really wish they would back the fuck off people.

Pfizer and Moderna are using a newer to the public MRNA technology, so people are freaking out over those the most. J&J uses tried and true regular one shot done. It's more like the flu shot.

I promise you, we are not gonna die. At least not from this vaccine lol.

I've always been pro vaccine guys, I've said this lol. In fact I got into it with Lotus when she was arguing against traditional established vaccines.. so I'm really surprised how fast she not only got this one, but berated people not comfortable with it.

And guys I was gonna HAVE to get it anyway because of what I do .....if I ever want to work again. You know I work in the medical feild.

 

[Lokmar]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

 

[Blazor]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

 

[Dove]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

Well as I said, its the MRNA technology people are freaking out over.

I'm not freaking out about it really. I know how it's supposed to work and if it pans out well that's a great thing!

I opted for J&J because it's not the new technology and it's a type of vaccine I know is tried and true. I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

You do really want to be careful with the information you get because hard anti vaxxers can be very very predatory and like to play to peoples fears. But "Big Nature" pulls in a ton of money as well....helpful to keep that in mind.

If you cant sue them, that's a good way to decide if you should listen to them. You can sue your doctor, you know?

It's so unfortunate how political it has become. Smart people dont trust the government.

 

[Lokmar]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

Well as I said, its the MRNA technology people are freaking out over.

I'm not freaking out about it really. I know how it's supposed to work and if it pans out well that's a great thing!

I opted for J&J because it's not the new technology and it's a type of vaccine I know is tried and true. I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

My wife was sick for a week with the Pfizer vax. We've heard that women can start their period after menopause with the second dose.

 

[Dove]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

Well as I said, its the MRNA technology people are freaking out over.

I'm not freaking out about it really. I know how it's supposed to work and if it pans out well that's a great thing!

I opted for J&J because it's not the new technology and it's a type of vaccine I know is tried and true. I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

My wife was sick for a week with the Pfizer vax. We've heard that women can start their period after menopause with the second dose.

It knocked my husband out of commission for nearly 4 days. And he NEVER gets laid out. He had to take sick days at work.....something else he never does.

He got it months ago because he also works in the medical feild. He actually forbid us to get this one until there was more data.

When J&J started getting offered at the pharmacy... we were good to go with that one and my oldest just turned 18, so we went together.

 

[Joe]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

Well as I said, its the MRNA technology people are freaking out over.

I'm not freaking out about it really. I know how it's supposed to work and if it pans out well that's a great thing!

I opted for J&J because it's not the new technology and it's a type of vaccine I know is tried and true. I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

My wife was sick for a week with the Pfizer vax. We've heard that women can start their period after menopause with the second dose.

Do did you make 'er preganant, Lokmeer?

Yer kinda old to becomin' a Dad agin.

But thatz the the way the cookie crumbles, Bud!

 

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[Dove]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

The one we got is showing to give the most protection against the variants.

I wish I could give it to my 15 year old, she wants to get vaccinated pretty badly but the only one approved for those under 18 is fucking Pfizer.

 

[Lokmar]

I agree with Aryan, sad meatz.

So how come more have died from this "vax", than all vax combined in the past 30 years. More have died from it than died in the Hiroshima bomb.

Its not even a vax, they calling it a vax cause people are use to the flu "vax". Its Experimental Gene Therapy that is not even FDA approved.

Well as I said, its the MRNA technology people are freaking out over.

I'm not freaking out about it really. I know how it's supposed to work and if it pans out well that's a great thing!

I opted for J&J because it's not the new technology and it's a type of vaccine I know is tried and true. I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

My wife was sick for a week with the Pfizer vax. We've heard that women can start their period after menopause with the second dose.

Do did you make 'er preganant, Lokmeer?

Yer kinda old to becomin' a Dad agin.

But thatz the the way the cookie crumbles, Bud!

Well josephine, if I got her knocked up, she wouldnt get a scrape like some degenerate lib. I never pull out BTW.

 

[Dove]

Even the medical feild is starting to hate you people.

Doctors could petition to have you people STFU and stop making it worse and you guys would STILL run your mouths, stating media bullshit and falsehoods about this vaccine.

If you guys were telling people the truth rather than pretending it's as safe as any vaccine, and not jumping down peoples throats JUST because they are nervous and have VERY reasonable concerns.....that would be different.

But you guys just cause every fucking one on your own damn side who is hesitant to just LIE and say they got it.....and never fucking bring up their concerns.

Politicizing the virus and the vaccine has accomplished NOTHING good for anyone. I wish all the adverse events and break through infections and all the people who are contradictory was just smug idiotic leftists.

 

[Joe]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

The one we got is showing to give the most protection against the variants.

I wish I could give it to my 15 year old, she wants to get vaccinated pretty badly but the only one approved for those under 18 is fucking Pfizer.

I gets the feeling the alternative vaccines will get the shaft, Dovey.

Canada has talked about getting its own homegrown vaccine (Medicago) which had good reviews/promising results & then yesterday, the government come out with announcment that Moderna will be manufacturing vaccines in Canada.




...so the more the mainstream Big Players became the vaccines of choice, the less we hear about the others.

And Novavax was supposed to be released in the US soon as a safer alternative to Pfizer/Modeern, but they've backtracked too.




It's looking more like 'It's My Way or the Highway, and if you don't like, tough shit!'

 

[The Prowler]

And just to be clear.....just because I got the vaccine, doesnt mean I'm going play along with "show me your vaccine record" to do things like shop or eat or live.

That bullshit has to be resisted.

So which shot did you get? Johnson and Johnson?

Yep!

And I feel fine. My mom had hers yesterday and shes pretty sure today but not too badly.

My oldest daughter went with me and got it and shes all curled up next to me asking if it's okay her body feels "fuzzy" lmao.

We are all hyper aware of our bodies tonight :D my 16 year old wants to get the Pfizer since it's the only one approved for kids under 18....but I'd prefer she waited until J and J gets approved for her age.

How are you feeling?

Good! All is well.

You feeling better? Really?

Did you get the 2nd dose or pass on that?

If you passed on that 2nd pfizer dose, the J&J would probably be better for you.

Feeling better, most of the inflammation has gone away.
Still a little bit in the fingers.
So...if it goes away, I might go for a 2nd shot.
Wait and see.
Seemed to linger in the system for a helluva long time tho.

I don't think they offer J and J in Canada.
Maybe they had a fw doses in the beginning, but the government never ordered any more.
The government is really pushing Moderna and announced a facility is being built to manufacture the vaccine in Canada.

YOu seem to have more choice in the States of vaccines and treatments available.
I don't know if we can get Ivermectin here.

There is a Made In Canada product, but we may never see it and might only be available in other countries.

If the the first shot had this dire reaction, the second might be even worse. That’s the way allergies go. This same experience happened to an associate of mine. The second round almost killed him. Get some advice from your doctor Joe. Be careful.

Yeah, Thanks for the info.

Just as I thought the inflammation was going away, this morning I noticed it was coming back.

So...if it doesn't go away entirely then I may forgo the 2nd shot.

Actually, I'm not against vaccinations.

However, if they have side effects like this one, then perhaps they're not safe.

I'd like to get vaccinated against COVID, but I prefer a safer alternative to the current products they have out on the market

Anyways, I find I'm taking ALEVE to bring the swelling down every couple days or week..

Pretty good chance that you are going to be fucked over the long term.

You should be asking "What exactly is going on in my body on a cellular level?"

Just because your body is able to get it under control for a period of time, it doesn't mean that you aren't dealing with a ticking time bomb.

Take that second jab at the risk of increasing the odds that you are fucked.

 

[The Prowler]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

I think it is somewhat effective at preventing a serious Covid-19 infection.

But it might be highly effective at creating serious long term health problems.

Time will tell. We'll see in the years to come.

 

[The Prowler]

I also dont like how Pfizer is already pushing boosters.

Moderna too.

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[The Prowler]

Step 1: Identify the problem. (Overpopulation)
Step 2: Define goal. (Lower population)
Step 3: Determine solution. (Reduce population)
Step 4: Agree on strategy. (Kill a shitload of people)

They have known for decades that the spike protein in some viruses will cause long term health problems. mRNA vaccines are a great way to have your body actually produce the spike protein. So now we need a reason to distribute mRNA vaccines that produce the spike protein. The obvious reason is a pandemic of a virus that contains the spike protein. Well, then let's use the Wuhan Institute of Virology; they've done good work before.

Time will tell.

Tick.

Tick.

Tick.

 

[Joe]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

I think it is somewhat effective at preventing a serious Covid-19 infection.

But it might be highly effective at creating serious long term health problems.

Time will tell. We'll see in the years to come.

There may be conventional vaccines already in wide which may provide some cross-protection from the coronavirus, but this knowledge is either intentionally suppressed or not widely shared.

Registered board physicians have been stating the possible benefits of Ivermectin, but then we aren't allowed to have access to it.

I don't think that Ivermectin or Hydroxichloroquiniine are cures, but it seems they can act a '1st Reponsiders' like a band-aid/bandage in a first aid kit.That their purpose is to prevent the virus from inflicting serious damage until the patient can be administered with more effective treatments.

 

[The Prowler]

BTW, I believe there are several organizations using the "plandemic" to their advantage.

The Elite have certain goals.

China has certain goals.

Big Pharma has certain goals.

The Elite have been using forced immigration and other vehicles to bring conflict to developed nations. Nukes are fast and effective, but they leave a lot of pollution. Small arms civil wars take longer, but they leave the planet in a healthier state. It is also safer for them. So this is why we've seen a lot of forcing incompatible cultures to try to co-exist over the past few years.

It is very involved and there are more groups with their own interests. The muslims want to spread their filthy religion across the planet (as always). The globalists want one big authoritarian government. The list goes on.

But Covid-19 is designed to kill. And while the virus itself can be deadly, the vaccine is by far the deadlier weapon.

 

[Dove]

I say get it, dont get it. YOU CHOOSE! However, the effectiveness of it is in doubt.

I think it is somewhat effective at preventing a serious Covid-19 infection.

But it might be highly effective at creating serious long term health problems.

Time will tell. We'll see in the years to come.

There may be conventional vaccines already in wide which may provide some cross-protection from the coronavirus, but this knowledge is either intentionally suppressed or widely shared.

Registered board physicians have been stating the possible benefits of Ivermectin, but then we aren't allowed to have access to it.

I don't think that Ivermectin or Hydroxichloroquiniine are cures, but it seems they can act a '1st Reponsiders' like a band-aid/bandage in a first aid kit.That their purpose is to prevent the virus from inflicting serious damage until the patient can be administered with more effective treatments.

If you treat early symptoms with those, its said to lower your risk of severe illness.

But as of now.....they dont know for certain if these people would have gotten better anyway without the meds.

Many doctors here are giving it. I had the hydroxy combo.....but I honestly cant say for certain it did anything. I never got severely ill

 

[Joe]

And just to be clear.....just because I got the vaccine, doesnt mean I'm going play along with "show me your vaccine record" to do things like shop or eat or live.

That bullshit has to be resisted.

So which shot did you get? Johnson and Johnson?

Yep!

And I feel fine. My mom had hers yesterday and shes pretty sure today but not too badly.

My oldest daughter went with me and got it and shes all curled up next to me asking if it's okay her body feels "fuzzy" lmao.

We are all hyper aware of our bodies tonight :D my 16 year old wants to get the Pfizer since it's the only one approved for kids under 18....but I'd prefer she waited until J and J gets approved for her age.

How are you feeling?

Good! All is well.

You feeling better? Really?

Did you get the 2nd dose or pass on that?

If you passed on that 2nd pfizer dose, the J&J would probably be better for you.

Feeling better, most of the inflammation has gone away.
Still a little bit in the fingers.
So...if it goes away, I might go for a 2nd shot.
Wait and see.
Seemed to linger in the system for a helluva long time tho.

I don't think they offer J and J in Canada.
Maybe they had a fw doses in the beginning, but the government never ordered any more.
The government is really pushing Moderna and announced a facility is being built to manufacture the vaccine in Canada.

YOu seem to have more choice in the States of vaccines and treatments available.
I don't know if we can get Ivermectin here.

There is a Made In Canada product, but we may never see it and might only be available in other countries.

If the the first shot had this dire reaction, the second might be even worse. That’s the way allergies go. This same experience happened to an associate of mine. The second round almost killed him. Get some advice from your doctor Joe. Be careful.

Yeah, Thanks for the info.

Just as I thought the inflammation was going away, this morning I noticed it was coming back.

So...if it doesn't go away entirely then I may forgo the 2nd shot.

Actually, I'm not against vaccinations.

However, if they have side effects like this one, then perhaps they're not safe.

I'd like to get vaccinated against COVID, but I prefer a safer alternative to the current products they have out on the market

Anyways, I find I'm taking ALEVE to bring the swelling down every couple days or week..

Pretty good chance that you are going to be fucked over the long term.

You should be asking "What exactly is going on in my body on a cellular level?"

Just because your body is able to get it under control for a period of time, it doesn't mean that you aren't dealing with a ticking time bomb.

Take that second jab at the risk of increasing the odds that you are fucked.

Not sure.

However, even authorities from the Medical Establishment such as the CDC have stated with the increased vaccine dosage, may also come increased possibility of side effects.




And that's from Official PRO-Vaxxer sources.

So you annti-vaxxers may have a point about what a person is willng to allow into their bodies and about vaxxing too much.

Got the first shot and I'm stil alive.

But still weighing my options about he 2nd shot.

 

[The Prowler]

you annti-vaxxers

I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

I'm an anti-drugs-that-do-moe-damage-than-gooder.

 

[Admin.]

Trumpsylvania the land of the luddites.

 

[Blazor]

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Trumpsylvania the land of the luddites.

Has science discovered why you like to suck cock so much?