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Another , but I'll wager you think you just innovated it.
Wait...Trump is NOT Racist!??!?!?!?
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Educate us.
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Read the link, foo'.
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Is this where you explain what a traitor is?
Or why a dumpster is not the same as a bin?
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Classic.
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I enjoy your tender touch laddie, and how you gently exhale when I fuck you up da arse, but even I am lighting a cigarillo before I have even got my grundies on.
Is this fucking it, Courier trying to deliver a killer blow while being blown out by a slight breeze and uncomplimentary intercourse?
Is this fucking it, Courier trying to deliver a killer blow while being blown out by a slight breeze and uncomplimentary intercourse?
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You really ought to keep your extremely filthy fantasies to yourself. Honestly, nobody needed to read that putrescent dross.
Oh, don't misunderstand; I don't begrudge you harboring such vile desires. I am, after all, a sexual dynamo, irresistible to women, men, and industrial machinery of all makes and descriptions.
But I don't need to hear about those desires. Keep that between you and your compact, pink leather bound diary.
Oh, don't misunderstand; I don't begrudge you harboring such vile desires. I am, after all, a sexual dynamo, irresistible to women, men, and industrial machinery of all makes and descriptions.
But I don't need to hear about those desires. Keep that between you and your compact, pink leather bound diary.
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And yet you did, and for the benefit of no-one else felt compelled to respond.
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You see where you are going wiff diss?
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Well, such a tender confession as yours; it would have been unseemly of me to refuse to at least acknowledge your disgusting carnal love, even if it will never be requited.
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To the Consonant Factory to buy you several sets of the 'th-' consonant pair? Honestly, the fact that you speak like a drunken hobo with nary a tooth in his mouth doesn't mean you're obligated to write that way.
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Why is dat?
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Because it's a phoneticized 'Stupid' sign around your ne...ck...
Y'know, disregard what I said; go right on writing like that.
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Certainly. Do you?
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Now why is Donald J.Trump not a traitor?
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Haha!!
I already pointed one out, and you ignored it.
So start there, Blandy.
Explain how the "many sides" statement was racist.
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Because:
1. We aren't in a formally declared war.
2. He hasn't provided aid or comfort to the enemy in a formally declared war.
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So what you are saying is Trump never declared war on his own VP and his country on the 6th. I agree. He started the war when he lost in November.
Americas Mayor is bankrupt, Georgian democracy stood firm against a claim for 12,000 votes and he will go to jail when he loses another election.
Americas Mayor is bankrupt, Georgian democracy stood firm against a claim for 12,000 votes and he will go to jail when he loses another election.
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Oh, you already tried!!!
Hahaha!!!
Let us see what you quoted her saying:
Okay, so your contention that "She was there" would mean her recollection of seeing someone hit by a car might be accurate. Sure. Nobody is arguing that someone was not hit by a car. That does prove that Trump is racist.
Then she says Trump "explicitly stating that you can be a white supremacist or a Nazi or a neo-Confederate and still be a good person" which is an outright lie. Saying that Trump said something that he did not say does not prove that Trump is racist.
You are supposed to be providing evidence that Trump is racist.
Not whether or not someone was struck by a car.
And lies do not count as evidence either.
So provide your evidence, Blandy.
Do you want me to do your job and look up the entire statement by Trump in response to the Charlottesville incident? Because that is where you should have started.
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Laddie, I cannot remind you why you are in a cult, I can only remind you you were always the cults target audience.
Read the whole thing (if dat is not enough fur ye), and get back to us when you feel comfortable reminding yourself just how disabled you are.
You never read it did ye!
Ha ha ha and ha, I suppose.
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Blah Blah Blah
The onus is on you to demonstrate that Trump is a racist.
You picked one subject that you think is proof of his racism. You used someone else's words as proof. The only evidence that Trump is a racist in those words is a blatant lie.
That puts you no further ahead in proving that Trump is racist.
I am willing to give you a shot in providing some evidence that Trump did or said something about the Charlottesville incident that would indicate that he is racist.
Provide some evidence.
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Evidence Jim?
If you ask President Donald Trump, he isn’t racist. To the contrary, he’s repeatedly that he’s “the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered.”
Trump’s actual record, however, tells a very different story.
On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From to after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to , Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, “kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
This is nothing new for Trump. In fact, the Trump appeared in the pages of the New York Times, back in the 1970s, was when the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination. Since then, he has repeatedly appeared in newspaper pages across the world as he inspired more similar controversies.
For many people, none of these incidents, individually, may be damning: One of these alone might suggest that Trump is simply a bad speaker and perhaps racially insensitive (“politically incorrect,” as he would put it), but not overtly racist.
And, of course, there’s everything that’s happened through and since his presidential campaign.
If you ask President Donald Trump, he isn’t racist. To the contrary, he’s repeatedly that he’s “the least racist person that you’ve ever encountered.”
Trump’s actual record, however, tells a very different story.
On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From to after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to , Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, “kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
This is nothing new for Trump. In fact, the Trump appeared in the pages of the New York Times, back in the 1970s, was when the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination. Since then, he has repeatedly appeared in newspaper pages across the world as he inspired more similar controversies.
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Trump has a long history of racist controversies
Here’s a breakdown of Trump’s history, taken largely from and an :- 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
- 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown . “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
- 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent , and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
- 1991: A by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
- 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
- 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
- 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
- 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
- 2005: Trump what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
- 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump , referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
- 2011: Trump played a in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to . Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “.” The has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
- 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump , “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
For many people, none of these incidents, individually, may be damning: One of these alone might suggest that Trump is simply a bad speaker and perhaps racially insensitive (“politically incorrect,” as he would put it), but not overtly racist.
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And, of course, there’s everything that’s happened through and since his presidential campaign.
As a candidate and president, Trump has made many more racist comments
On top of all that history, Trump has repeatedly made racist — often explicitly so — remarks on the campaign trail and as president:- Trump launched his campaign in 2015 by Mexican immigrants “rapists” who are “bringing crime” and “bringing drugs” to the US. His campaign was largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.
- As a candidate in 2015, Trump for a ban on all Muslims coming into the US. His administration eventually implemented a .
- When asked at a 2016 Republican debate whether all 1.6 billion Muslims hate the US, Trump , “I mean a lot of them. I mean a lot of them.”
- He in 2016 that Judge Gonzalo Curiel — who was overseeing — should recuse himself from the case because of his Mexican heritage and membership in a Latino lawyers association. House Speaker Paul Ryan, who endorsed Trump, later such comments “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”
- Trump has been to condemn white supremacists who endorse him, and he messages from white supremacists and neo-Nazis during his presidential campaign.
- He an image that showed Hillary Clinton in front of a pile of money and by a Jewish Star of David that said, “Most Corrupt Candidate Ever!” The tweet had some very obvious anti-Semitic imagery, but Trump that the star was a sheriff’s badge, and his campaign shouldn’t have deleted it.
- Trump has to Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) as “Pocahontas,” using her controversial — and — claims to Native American heritage as a punchline.
- At the 2016 Republican convention, Trump officially seized the mantle of — an obvious playing to white fears of Black crime, even though crime in the US is . His after he took office have continued this line of messaging.
- In a in 2016, Trump , “You’re living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, 58 percent of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose?”
- Trump a Black reporter at a press conference in February 2017. When April Ryan asked him if he plans to meet and work with the Congressional Black Caucus, he repeatedly asked her to set up the meeting — even as she insisted that she’s “just a reporter.”
- In the week after , in August 2017, Trump that “many sides” and “both sides” were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued — suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters who stood against racism. He also said that there were “some very fine people” among the white supremacists. All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists — and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer Trump for “defending the truth.”
- Throughout 2017, Trump NFL players who, by kneeling or otherwise silently protesting during the national anthem, demonstrated against systemic racism in America.
- Trump in 2017 that people who came to the US from Haiti “all have AIDS,” and he lamented that people who came to the US from Nigeria would never “go back to their huts” once they saw America. The White House that Trump ever made these comments.
- Speaking about immigration in a bipartisan meeting in January 2018, Trump , in reference to Haiti and African countries, “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” He then reportedly suggested that the US should take more people from countries like Norway. The implication: Immigrants from predominantly white countries are good, while immigrants from predominantly Black countries are bad.
- Trump making the “shithole” comments, although some senators present at the meeting they happened. The White House, meanwhile, that the comments, like Trump’s remarks about the NFL protests, will play well to his base. The only connection between Trump’s remarks about the NFL protests and his “shithole” comments is race.
- Trump mocked Elizabeth Warren’s presidential campaign, again calling her “Pocahontas” in a 2019 before adding, “See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!” The capitalized “TRAIL” is to the Trail of Tears — a horrific act of ethnic cleansing in the 19th century in which Native Americans were forcibly relocated, causing thousands of deaths.
- Trump later that year that several Black and brown members of Congress — Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Ayanna Pressley (D-MA), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), and Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) — are “from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe” and that they should “go back” to those countries. It’s a common racist trope to say that Black and brown people, particularly immigrants, should go back to their countries of origin. Three of the four members of Congress whom Trump targeted were born in the US.
- Trump has the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “kung flu.” The World Health Organization advises against linking a virus to any particular region, since it can lead to stigma. Trump’s adviser, Kellyanne Conway, the term “kung flu” as “highly offensive.” Meanwhile, Asian Americans have hateful incidents targeting them due to the spread of the coronavirus.
- Trump that Kamala Harris, who’s Black and South Asian, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to be former Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s running mate — yet another example of birtherism.
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Do ye need more facts to rely on Jim?
Surely your burden of proof doesn't rely on one black man insinuating he does not feel racially disqualified?
Surely your burden of proof doesn't rely on one black man insinuating he does not feel racially disqualified?
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This is the Charlottesville stuff in all of that:
" after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville"
Saying something that might have made white supremacists happy does not show that a person is racist.
If I were to say "The white sheet costume that the KKK chose is very fashionable." it might make them happy. It does not mean I share their beliefs.
Pandering is such a weak claim; whether or not Trump was pandering is entirely subjective and is unprovable. Further to that, pandering does not prove racism.
So we have to dismiss that portion of your post.
"Trump that “many sides” and “both sides” were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued — suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters who stood against racism."
Counter protesters were responsible for some of the violence. Stating that fact alone does not imply any kind of "moral equivalency".
"He also said that there were “some very fine people” among the white supremacists."
That is an outright lie. Why do you need outright lies to support your claim?
"All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists — and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer Trump for “defending the truth.”"
Trump cannot control how people take his words. If some people who happen to be racist like what he said, that obviously does not prove that Trump is racist.
This is basic logic.
" after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville"
Saying something that might have made white supremacists happy does not show that a person is racist.
If I were to say "The white sheet costume that the KKK chose is very fashionable." it might make them happy. It does not mean I share their beliefs.
Pandering is such a weak claim; whether or not Trump was pandering is entirely subjective and is unprovable. Further to that, pandering does not prove racism.
So we have to dismiss that portion of your post.
"Trump that “many sides” and “both sides” were to blame for the violence and chaos that ensued — suggesting that the white supremacist protesters were morally equivalent to counterprotesters who stood against racism."
Counter protesters were responsible for some of the violence. Stating that fact alone does not imply any kind of "moral equivalency".
"He also said that there were “some very fine people” among the white supremacists."
That is an outright lie. Why do you need outright lies to support your claim?
"All of this seemed like a dog whistle to white supremacists — and many of them took it as one, with white nationalist Richard Spencer Trump for “defending the truth.”"
Trump cannot control how people take his words. If some people who happen to be racist like what he said, that obviously does not prove that Trump is racist.
This is basic logic.
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Desperate to stay in power, on Jan 6th, Trump was reduced to asking his VP to utilise powers that only one constitutional lawyer agreed with. The very same one who appeared on stage with Giuliani that afternoon.
Trump, waiting in the wings came on stage behind a bullet proof screen to screen him from his own supporters, dared them to storm the Capitol Building, and that he would be right there with them.
He never turned up, and Mike Pence although evacuated from the floor by the Secret Service refused to leave the building.
He came back after the riot that Trump was too afraid to attend, and sanctioned every state vote.
Trump lost. And so did you.
Trump, waiting in the wings came on stage behind a bullet proof screen to screen him from his own supporters, dared them to storm the Capitol Building, and that he would be right there with them.
He never turned up, and Mike Pence although evacuated from the floor by the Secret Service refused to leave the building.
He came back after the riot that Trump was too afraid to attend, and sanctioned every state vote.
Trump lost. And so did you.
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The burden of proof yours.
The black man in the video posted proof that much of the evidence you rely on is false.
Surely you can try to focus on one subject (Charlottesville) and debate that.
We can move onto other subject once you face The Truth regarding Charlottesville.
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