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Don't make me responsible for your inability to conceive and articulate multiple points that you are too invested in... to rage against!

Let me handle this in a way you can understand, I am driving a car, a Dodge Challenger, actually this is my fantasy, it's a Ferrari Dino, 1974. It's red. Ferrari Red.

You have pressed the button on a Charlottesville crossing just as I am slowing down, and then while attempting to cross me you produce from no-where, a White Lives Matter banner with a half tone photocopied photo of my mother having sex with several well endowed black men, who in turn in the photo are holding up a banner that says Black Lives Matter. While this unfolds like a Stephen King novella, a Mexican and two native American stereotypes appear from a man hole cover wearing chaps and headdresses on the right side of a crossing that has already insulted me. I am driving a Ferrari Dino.

I run everyone down. Of course I ahum do.

At least I know I am good people.

I also know that true victimhood can be claimed if you have been shot in the ear, but simply moaning about being mown down by a Ferrari Dino provokes as much sympathy as a white cop taking the knee on a black mans neck.
 

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So what you are saying is Trump never declared war on his own VP and his country on the 6th. I agree. He started the war when he lost in November.

Americas Mayor is bankrupt, Georgian democracy stood firm against a claim for 12,000 votes and he will go to jail when he loses another election.
Okay, well, you can't use "war" in the colloquial sense to declare somebody guilty of treason, which is a legal term.

Are you too thick to understand that? Not every conflict is a war, in the same way that not every toothless drunk is technically Scottish. See the principle at work?
 

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Don't make me responsible for your inability to conceive and articulate multiple points that you are too invested in... to rage against!

Let me handle this in a way you can understand, I am driving a car, a Dodge Challenger, actually this is my fantasy, it's a Ferrari Dino, 1974. It's red. Ferrari Red.

You have pressed the button on a Charlottesville crossing just as I am slowing down, and then while attempting to cross me you produce from no-where, a White Lives Matter banner with a half tone photocopied photo of my mother having sex with several well endowed black men, who in turn in the photo are holding up a banner that says Black Lives Matter. While this unfolds like a Stephen King novella, a Mexican and two native American stereotypes appear from a man hole cover wearing chaps and headdresses on the right side of a crossing that has already insulted me. I am driving a Ferrari Dino.

I run everyone down. Of course I ahum do.

At least I know I am good people.

I also know that true victimhood can be claimed if you have been shot in the ear, but simply moaning about being mown down by a Ferrari Dino provokes as much sympathy as a white cop taking the knee on a black mans neck.
Might I suggest you set aside the Buckfast while listening to The Village People.
 
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Don't make me responsible for your inability to conceive and articulate multiple points

Not reading past that.

You have been unable to articulate a good argument about a single subject: Charlottesville.

Either prove your point, even present a good argument, or concede that you not only cannot do that, but you attempted to use blatant lies to support your claim.

Then we can move onto the next topic.
 

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Look, the Marxists have to declare that Trump is a 'racist' -- despite the fact that he obviously isn't one.

Why? Because they can't defend what he's against.

Totally uncontrolled migration? (Not immigration, that's a legal process. Jumping the neighbor's fence doesn't make you a homeowner on his property, and swimming the Rio Grande doesn't make you an immigrant -- it makes you an invader.) The Marxists want that. Why? Because Americans won't vote for their policies -- but illegal aliens, who are already accustomed to government malfeasance, certainly will.

And since they have no rational argument to address that, all they can do is scream, "RAAAACIIIIIIST!"

It's all they've got.
 
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Look, the Marxists have to declare that Trump is a 'racist' -- despite the fact that he obviously isn't one.

Why? Because they can't defend what he's against.

Totally uncontrolled migration? (Not immigration, that's a legal process. Jumping the neighbor's fence doesn't make you a homeowner on his property, and swimming the Rio Grande doesn't make you an immigrant -- it makes you an invader.) The Marxists want that. Why? Because Americans won't vote for their policies -- but illegal aliens, who are already accustomed to government malfeasance, certainly will.

And since they have no rational argument to address that, all they can do is scream, "RAAAACIIIIIIST!"

It's all they've got.

It is one thing to declare it.

It is quite another to provide a good argument to support it.

Blandy is no different than most of them.

He panics when his nonsense is challenged.
 

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It is one thing to declare it.

It is quite another to provide a good argument to support it.

Blandy is no different than most of them.

He panics when his nonsense is challenged.
The inevitable result of prioritizing emotion over reason is that the emotional are easily manipulated -- and those among them who fancy themselves 'clever' believe that they can exert the same manipulation over others.

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Okay, well, you can't use "war" in the colloquial sense to declare somebody guilty of treason, which is a legal term.

Are you too thick to understand that? Not every conflict is a war, in the same way that not every toothless drunk is technically Scottish. See the principle at work?

Why can't I use "war" as a finger-licking lollipop sucking colloquia-jism?

Americans declare war on everything to justify their own imperialism, a war on drugs, a war on terrorism, a civil war, a war on hate, a war on hope, a war on profit margins, a war on socialism, a war on communism, a war on the left, a war on the right, a war on other people's expansionism, a war on contras, a war on contradiction, a war on grammatical dictatorships, a war on how many litres a toilet flush requires, a war on its own judicial institutions, a war on votes cast, a war on elections lost and most importantly of all... a war on common sense.

Of course I must be fick laddie, I am here reduced to traducing you.

If only I could think of this as a protracted war Courier (there might have bee sum profit in it, innit), and just not me invading your foreign shores and steamrollering over every point you make - like an incel in a Abrahams tank in the River Island ladies lingerie department in the run up to Christmas.
 
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Charlottesville

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This is what you need to find, Blandy.

It is called evidence.

It is called The Truth.


Can you face The Truth, Blandy?




Reporter: "Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?"

Trump: "I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long."

Reporter: "Forty-eight hours."

Trump: "I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct -- not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don’t make statements that direct unless you know the facts. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it’s a very, very important process to me, and it’s a very important statement.

"So I don’t want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts. If you go back to --

Reporter: "So you had to (inaudible) white supremacists?"

Trump: "I brought it. I brought it. I brought it."

Reporter: "Was it terrorism, in your opinion, what happened?"

Trump: "As I said on -- remember, Saturday -- we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America. And then it went on from there. Now, here’s the thing --"

Reporter: (Inaudible)

Trump: "Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing: When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened.

"Before I make a statement, I need the facts. So I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman, who I hear was a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC -- her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine -- really, actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother, on Twitter, thanked me for what I said.

"And honestly, if the press were not fake, and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. But unlike you, and unlike -- excuse me, unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts."

(crosstalk)
 
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Not without giggling and losing control of my pisser sphincter while being bent double laughing at you wielding words like truth. Or the!

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Did you have to do a Fact Check, Blandy?


Keep reading The Truth Blandy.


I know you are struggling with cognitive dissonance...but if we take it really slowly...maybe you can cope.


Reporter: "The CEO of Walmart said you missed a critical opportunity to help bring the country together. Did you?"

Trump: "Not at all. I think the country -- look, you take a look. I’ve created over a million jobs since I’m President. The country is booming. The stock market is setting records. We have the highest employment numbers we’ve ever had in the history of our country. We’re doing record business. We have the highest levels of enthusiasm. So the head of Walmart, who I know -- who’s a very nice guy -- was making a political statement. I mean -- I’d do it the same way. And you know why? Because I want to make sure, when I make a statement, that the statement is correct. And there was no way -- there was no way of making a correct statement that early. I had to see the facts, unlike a lot of reporters. Unlike a lot of reporters --

Reporter: "Nazis were there."

Reporter: "David Duke was there."

Trump: "I didn’t know David Duke was there. I wanted to see the facts. And the facts, as they started coming out, were very well stated. In fact, everybody said, ‘His statement was beautiful. If he would have made it sooner, that would have been good.’ I couldn’t have made it sooner because I didn’t know all of the facts. Frankly, people still don’t know all of the facts.

"It was very important -- excuse me, excuse me -- it was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly. Because if I would have made a fast statement -- and the first statement was made without knowing much, other than what we were seeing. The second statement was made after, with knowledge, with great knowledge. There are still things -- excuse me -- there are still things that people don’t know. I want to make a statement with knowledge. I wanted to know the facts."

Reporter: "Two questions. Was this terrorism? And can you tell us how you’re feeling about your chief strategist, Stephen Bannon?"

Trump: "Well, I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family, and this country. And that is -- you can call it terrorism. You can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. That’s what I’d call it. Because there is a question: Is it murder? Is it terrorism? And then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer. And what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.

(crosstalk)
 
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Reporter: "Can you tell us broadly what your -- do you still have confidence in Steve?"

Trump: "Well, we’ll see. Look, look -- I like Mr. Bannon. He’s a friend of mine. But Mr. Bannon came on very late. You know that. I went through 17 senators, governors, and I won all the primaries. Mr. Bannon came on very much later than that. And I like him, he’s a good man. He is not a racist, I can tell you that. He’s a good person. He actually gets very unfair press in that regard. But we’ll see what happens with Mr. Bannon. But he’s a good person, and I think the press treats him, frankly, very unfairly."

(crosstalk)

Reporter: "Sen. (John) McCain said that the alt-right is behind these attacks, and he linked that same group to those who perpetrated the attack in Charlottesville."

Trump: "Well, I don’t know. I can’t tell you. I’m sure Senator McCain must know what he’s talking about. But when you say the alt-right, define alt-right to me. You define it. Go ahead."

Reporter: "Well, I’m saying, as Senator --"

Trump: "No, define it for me. Come on, let’s go. Define it for me."

Reporter: "Senator McCain defined them as the same group --"

Trump: "Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at -- excuse me, what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?

"Let me ask you this: What about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. As far as I’m concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. Wait a minute. I’m not finished. I’m not finished, fake news. That was a horrible day --

" I will tell you something. I watched those very closely -- much more closely than you people watched it. And you have -- you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group -- you had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very, very violent."
 

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Luckily Senator McCain never lived to live through your idea of Republicanism Jim...although he did get a glimpse. And he didn't like it.

Please read this again and explain to us all what is wrong with this statement, not just in terms of American law, and the rectitude that the right seems to envelop;

" I will tell you something. I watched those very closely -- much more closely than you people watched it. And you have -- you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group -- you had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very, very violent."
 
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Luckily Senator McCain never lived to live through your idea of Republicanism Jim...although he did get a glimpse. And he didn't like it.

Please read this again and explain to us all what is wrong with this statement, not just in terms of American law, and the rectitude that the right seems to envelop;

" I will tell you something. I watched those very closely -- much more closely than you people watched it. And you have -- you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group -- you had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very, very violent."

You are trying to prove that Trump is racist. Racist.

Focus.
 
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Whit side was bad, and which was violent Jim...let's make it simple for you!

You are trying to prove that Trump is racist, Blandy. Discussing which "side" was "violent" does nothing to prove racism, Blandy.

Focus.

First we are dealing with Charlottesville and what Trump said. You claim the "many sides" statement proves that Trump is racist. So we are going to examine what Trump actually said. In full. In context. And we will see that the "many sides" statement was, in fact, NOT racist and NOT supportive of the white supremacists. As you falsely claimed.

Then we can more onto more points that you made that I will dismantle.

But for now.

Try to focus on Charlottesville.


Reporter: "Do you think that what you call the alt-left is the same as neo-Nazis?"

Trump: "Those people -- all of those people – excuse me, I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of Robert E. Lee."

Reporter: "Should that statue be taken down?"

Trump: "Excuse me. If you take a look at some of the groups, and you see -- and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not -- but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.

"So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?

"But they were there to protest -- excuse me, if you take a look, the night before they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. Infrastructure question. Go ahead."

Reporter: "Should the statues of Robert E. Lee stay up?"

Trump: "I would say that’s up to a local town, community, or the federal government, depending on where it is located."

Reporter: "How concerned are you about race relations in America? And do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office?"

Trump: "I think they’ve gotten better or the same. Look, they’ve been frayed for a long time. And you can ask President Obama about that, because he’d make speeches about it. But I believe that the fact that I brought in -- it will be soon -- millions of jobs -- you see where companies are moving back into our country -- I think that’s going to have a tremendous, positive impact on race relations.

"We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced. We have Foxconn in Wisconsin just announced. We have many companies, I say, pouring back into the country. I think that’s going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It’s jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay, and when they have that, you watch how race relations will be.

"And I’ll tell you, we’re spending a lot of money on the inner cities. We’re fixing the inner cities. We’re doing far more than anybody has done with respect to the inner cities. It’s a priority for me, and it’s very important."
 

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Not reading past that.

You have been unable to articulate a good argument about a single subject: Charlottesville.

Either prove your point, even present a good argument, or concede that you not only cannot do that, but you attempted to use blatant lies to support your claim.

Then we can move onto the next topic.

He cant do that, he just strings together a run of verbs and adverbs with barely a noun in sight. His posts have no anchor in reality which is why I call him unhinged.

Once you realise that you know what you are dealing with.
 
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Hey @Blandscape , are you ready for the KILL SHOT?

This is where I expose all the "Good people on both sides" izzz Rwacizzzt!!! people as ill-informed or outright liars....
 
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Here it is @Blandscape .

Read it and then let me know if you concede that the Charlottesville quotes were cherry-picked and taken out of context and do NOT offer any evidence that Trump is a racist.

If you do not concede, I can highlight the words that are relevant to try to help you.


Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?"

Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.

"But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left -- you just called them the left -- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

Reporter: (Inaudible) "… both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the --"

Trump: "Yes, I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say."

Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

Reporter: "George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same."

Trump: "George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down -- excuse me, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him?"

Reporter: "I do love Thomas Jefferson."

Trump: "Okay, good. Are we going to take down the statue? Because he was a major slave owner. Now, are we going to take down his statue?

"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

"Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group."

Reporter: "Sir, I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly? I just don’t understand what you were saying."

Trump: "No, no. There were people in that rally -- and I looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day it looked like they had some rough, bad people -- neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them.

"But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest -- because, I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country -- a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country.

"Does anybody have a final --

Reporter: "What makes you think you can get an infrastructure bill? You didn’t get health care --

Trump: "Well, you know, I’ll tell you. We came very close with health care. Unfortunately, John McCain decided to vote against it at the last minute. You’ll have to ask John McCain why he did that. But we came very close to health care. We will end up getting health care. But we’ll get the infrastructure. And actually, infrastructure is something that I think we’ll have bipartisan support on. I actually think Democrats will go along with the infrastructure."

Reporter: "Mr. President, have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack?"

Trump: "No, I’ll be reaching out. I’ll be reaching out."

Reporter: "When will you be reaching out?"

Trump: "I thought that the statement put out -- the mother’s statement I thought was a beautiful statement. I will tell you, it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific. And, really, under the kind of stress that she’s under and the heartache that she’s under, I thought putting out that statement, to me, was really something. I won’t forget it.

"Thank you, all, very much. Thank you. Thank you."
 

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Here it is @Blandscape .

"So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people -- and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists -- because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
I found it easy.
 
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Wow, I might spend 5 hours and pick that article apart. Which I could do. Easily.

But...why again?

Hahahaha!!!!
You can't do anyfing easily laddie, give it a bash and watch me fucking destroy you.

Do you remember when you said that, @Blandscape ?

Of course you do not. Hahahaha!!!!

You brain-damaged imbecile.


But to get you up to speed, we started with the Charlottesville hoax. I quoted the actual interview and what Trump actually said: In full and in context. And it shows that he spoke out against the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. Which actually is evidence that Trump is not racist, contrary to your initial claim.

That is when you suffered extreme discomfort and decided you needed to leave the forum for a few days and pretend that this thread never happened.

Well, it.....

Happened.

And now this is when you show more fortitude that you have ever shown before in your entire pathetic life, and you admit that you were wrong about the Charlottesville incident and now you have been educated and understand that what Trump said does not support the "Trump is racist." narrative.


Once you do that, we can move on to more points made in that article you posted and I will educate you further.


Do not be a pussy, Blandy.
 

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I left the forum for a few days...because of your post. Really?

Has there ever been a time Jim when you actually wear a crash helmet (or other health and safety equipment), as you charge needlessly head first into a brick troll of your own construction?

Stop wasting your time educating me 2 weeks later laddie, and concentrate on the basics, like should Canadians be allowed to use a waffle iron without a license, and should Justin Bieber sing a duet with Celine Dion for the remake of that 1977 classic, Sex Dens of Saskatoon? These are important questions I fink we can all agree.

Once you do dat, we can all move on and feel as if we have learned nothing.
 

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I left the forum for a few days...because of your post. Really?

Has there ever been a time Jim when you actually wear a crash helmet (or other health and safety equipment), as you charge needlessly head first into a brick troll of your own construction?

Stop wasting your time educating me 2 weeks later laddie, and concentrate on the basics, like should Canadians be allowed to use a waffle iron without a license, and should Justin Bieber sing a duet with Celine Dion for the remake of that 1977 classic, Sex Dens of Saskatoon? These are important questions I fink we can all agree.

Once you do dat, we can all move on and feel as if we have learned nothing.

Bwaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahahahaha

Oh, I needed that laugh this morning.
 
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Did I know @Blandscape would cower when presented with an actual argument?

Yes.

And it was fun to watch.

Thanks for that, Blandy.

I know how much.

It bothers.

You.
 

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