Wannabe Dicktater Praises Putin's Invasion of Ukraine

[Dove]

From an article I posted above

Putin said the existential threat from NATO’s expansion was the main reason for military action:

“Our biggest concerns and worries, [are] the fundamental threats which irresponsible Western politicians created for Russia consistently, rudely and unceremoniously from year to year. I am referring to the eastward expansion of NATO, which is moving its military infrastructure ever closer to the Russian border.
It is a fact that over the past 30 years we have been patiently trying to come to an agreement with the leading NATO countries regarding the principles of equal and indivisible security in Europe. In response to our proposals, we invariably faced either cynical deception and lies or attempts at pressure and blackmail, while the North Atlantic alliance continued to expand despite our protests and concerns. Its military machine is moving and, as I said, is approaching our very border.
Why is this happening? Where did this insolent manner of talking down from the height of their exceptionalism, infallibility and all-permissiveness come from? What is the explanation for this contemptuous and disdainful attitude to our interests and absolutely legitimate demands?”

Putin called the Americans “con-artists” for lying about NATO expansion. He referred to:

“promises not to expand NATO eastwards even by an inch. To reiterate: they have deceived us, or, to put it simply, they have played us. Sure, one often hears that politics is a dirty business. It could be, but it shouldn’t be as dirty as it is now, not to such an extent. This type of con-artist behaviour is contrary not only to the principles of international relations but also and above all to the generally accepted norms of morality and ethics.”

Putin said Russia had long wanted to cooperate with the West. “Those who aspire to global dominance have publicly designated Russia as their enemy. They did so with impunity. Make no mistake, they had no reason to act this way,” he said.

 

[Joe]

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Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In

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on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

"This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."

Trump is a long-standing fan of Putin's. In 2013, he wondered on Twitter if the Russian autocrat would attend his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and whether the two would become "best friends." Putin did not show up. In the following years, Trump

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of Putin's strategic acumen, noted the strongman's intention to "re-build the Russian Empire" and defended Putin's habit of killing dissidents and journalists, arguing that the United States does the same thing.

In Trump's own words...

 

[Lily]

A break from propaganda

From Oliver Stone:

"Amid all the hysteria of Western media, screaming bloody murder at Putin, omitting key facts when inconvenient, it’s most important to understand the full spectrum of what’s happening -- and, above all, to think clearly. With the help of the Internet, I’ve found some helpful and honest analyses. I cite them below in order of importance to me"

1) Pearls and Irritations, a little-known progressive Australian platform, was sent to me by Zach Sklar, my cowriter on “JFK.” Tony Kevin was an Australian senior diplomat who was posted to their Embassy in Moscow. Here, he gets right to the crux of the matter.

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2) Also from Zach is “Understanding Putin’s Narrative…” by Jonathan Steele of the British Guardian.

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3) Joe Lauria, the heir to the late, great Bob Parry on Consortium News:

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4) And Caitlin Johnstone of Australia with “12 Thoughts on Ukraine.”

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Oliver Stone knows nothing of propaganda

 

[Dove]

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

 

[Dove]

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Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In

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on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

"This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."

Trump is a long-standing fan of Putin's. In 2013, he wondered on Twitter if the Russian autocrat would attend his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and whether the two would become "best friends." Putin did not show up. In the following years, Trump

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of Putin's strategic acumen, noted the strongman's intention to "re-build the Russian Empire" and defended Putin's habit of killing dissidents and journalists, arguing that the United States does the same thing.

In Trump's own words...

No not really. It's his words, yes. But it's just clips of his sentences put together to support a certain view of Trump being pushed by propagandists.

Saying Putin was smart isnt the same as approving and praising. This whole manipulative idea that saying anything about reasons and motives on Putins end is the same as being "pro Putin" is total garbage.

You should always....always go and listen to the actual discussion that was had so that you get the proper context and understand what was actually being said. Not just take some media sources version of it that take some of the words and use it to support a narrative. There is lots of propaganda and listening to entire discussions as they were is a great way to avoid the propaganda trap.

 

[1Holliday1]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

 

[Dove]

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

 

[Dove]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

H has decided that anyone who disagrees with him is a conservative and thusly everyone who does things he doesnt like are conservatives.

Islam are all conservatives. PC dems/progs are all conservatives. Dem politicains who are banging the war drum....conservatives.

Just a dishonest anti intellectual who only forms opinions that he thinks allows him to hate conservatives.

He doesnt actually know what conservatism is. He literally defines it as "everyone who disagrees with me".

Conservatives most definately oppose Biden, Pelosi, all that establishment mess. But H here says "No! That's YOUR team! Wah!!" When it clearly isnt. Trying to switch around who is who is pathetic.

 

[Admin.]

When is Kyle going to Ukraine?

 

[1Holliday1]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

PS: I'm having a second round of espresso this morning so don't get me started, okay.

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented. But forgive me if I have misconstrued any of your posts. Please.

 

[Dove]

When is Kyle going to Ukraine?

Why would Kyle go to the Ukraine?

To go fight and die in an establishment war for a government that opposes his rights and the rights of all ordinary people?

No thanks. Fight your own wars.

 

[1Holliday1]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

 

[Dove]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented. But forgive me if I have misconstrued any of your posts. Please.

Lotus you have claimed the dems have their "hearts in the right place" somehow unlike establishment Republicans who are literally the same thing as the dems.

You guys support a lot of the shit theyve done to the people. H himself was all about coerced and forced vaccinations and censorship.

You guys help put these people in office and you support their propaganda.

Holiday hates us more than he cares about the country and all his nonsense shows it. This person has been consistently hateful and you never call him out for that.....but you'll call ME out when I respond to hatefulness.

So now he is gonna pretend all us he labeled "cons" are all on team Biden and we support all this shit they do because he calls them "cons" as well. Its mental. It makes ZERO sense. But that's his hate infected mind.

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

 

[1Holliday1]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

Which you were.

In fact, I took a lot of shit from "libs" along the way for Dem bashing and my anti-LibiCon position - that going back well over a dozen years (15) here on the boards.

You know Trumptardism isn't a party either, it's just a very extreme and violent form of conservatism as is putinism - and trumputinism is the worst of the political type here in the west.

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

Which you were.

Settle down. I apologized twice.

Here's my third and final offer. Sorry I misinterpreted some of your posts. Very sorry.

 

[1Holliday1]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

Which you were.

Settle down. I apologized twice.

Here's my third and final offer. Sorry I misinterpreted some of your posts. Very sorry.

I told you I had extra coffee this morning.

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

Which you were.

In fact, I took a lot of shit from "libs" along the way for Dem bashing and my anti-LibiCon position - that going back well over a dozen years (15) here on the boards.

You know Trumptardism isn't a party either, it's just a very extreme and violent form of conservatism as is putinism - and trumputinism is the worst of the political type here in the west.

Yes, I know you did. I remember very well.

 

[LotusBud]

Main stream Media has peaceful bias!

Conservatives know how to make the money. Peace isn't the answer apparently.

Very true, but Dems are also war hawks and have been for the last 30 years or so. They just make more excuses and are less up front about how much they love war, but they rake in the dough from the many wars that the US is currently involved in just like cons do.

Did I write anything about political parties?
I wrote "conservatives", yes?

So, let me get it straight. Do you classify Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Clintons, etal as "conservatives"? If so, then I feel you.

You know darn well I do, and for how long, madam.

Not darn well, because lately you seem kind of dem-oriented.

Link?

No links. Just a general sense I was getting. As I said, I apologize if I am incorrect.

Which you were.

Settle down. I apologized twice.

Here's my third and final offer. Sorry I misinterpreted some of your posts. Very sorry.

I told you I had extra coffee this morning.

Not a good excuse. Just sayin.

 

[1Holliday1]

Jodi called. She said "boob squeeze".

 

[LotusBud]

 

[1Holliday1]

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Trump's praise of Putin, 'America First' view tested by war


WASHINGTON (AP) — From the earliest days of his first presidential campaign, Donald Trump aggressively challenged the pillars of Republican foreign policy that defined the party since World War II.

He mocked John McCain's capture during the Vietnam War, validated autocrats with his platitudes, questioned longtime military and security alliances and embraced an isolationist worldview. And to the horror of many GOP leaders at the time, it worked, resonating with voters who believed, in part, that a bipartisan establishment in Washington had brokered trade deals that hurt American workers and recklessly stumbled into so-called “forever wars.”

But Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine is posing a serious test for Trump and his “America First” doctrine at a moment when he is eyeing another presidential run and using this year's midterm elections to keep bending the GOP to his will. He's largely alone in his sustained praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin as “smart,” an assessment he

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last week during speeches to donors and conservative activists. His often deferential vice president,

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, split with him on the issue late Friday.

The multinational partnerships that Trump repeatedly undermined, meanwhile, have allowed the West to quickly band together to hobble Russia's economy with coordinated sanctions. The NATO alliance, which Trump once dismissed as “obsolete,” is flexing its strength as a foil to Russia's aggression.

Perhaps most fundamentally, the war is a fresh reminder, observers say, that the U.S. can't simply ignore the world's problems, even if that's sometimes a politically appealing way to connect with voters facing their own daily struggles.

“This is a brutal wake-up call to both parties that not only are we not going to be able to do less in the world," said Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations and a former diplomat. “We are going to have to do more.”

 

[X]

Lindsay Grahm is da man !

 

[1Holliday1]

Lindsay Grahm is da man !

Maybe in a roomful of transexuals.

 

[X]

Lindsay Grahm is da man !

Maybe in a roomful of transexuals.

LOL I bet those transexuals are more man than yoo tho' ha ha
some Cons say the right stuffs holligearbox ... not all totally tardeded

 

[LotusBud]

Lindsay Grahm is da man !

Say what?

 

[1Holliday1]

Lindsay Grahm is da man !

Maybe in a roomful of transexuals.

LOL I bet those transexuals are more man than yoo tho' ha ha
some Cons say the right stuffs holligearbox ... not all totally tardeded

I have say'd here that my best hope is that someone close to him will do the right thing.
They are all as old and out of touch with the transformed world as he is, so one should not hold their breath on that one, but calling for an assassination of a foreign head of state....
Look, you see the reaction around the world to this invasion. People are evolving to (slowly) respect sovereignty of nations - with exceptions certainly - nations which have their own developmental trajectory.
Assassinations, being an old method of regime change, will only ignite ill will toward the aggressors even by allies.