We're with Ice ma'am, we're here to protect and serve and keep Merica safe.

[Holliday 3000]

Do you ever get sick of losing debates all the time?

20 years, Reggie. Never lost one.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

20 years, Reggie. Never lost one.

Of course you haven't.

 

[Holliday 3000]

Of course you haven't.

Not once,
. but let me splain this to you again.
The only people who will be hurt by this (since it's dead)
are the Repukes who are trying it as a method of voter suppression.
.They have failed.
That must hurt.

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• The Trump-backed bill is unlikely to ⁠become law before the midterms in November because Republicans lack the 60 votes needed for passage in the 100-member Senate.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Not once,
. but let me splain this to you again.
The only people who will be hurt by this (since it's dead)
are the Repukes who are trying it as a method of voter suppression.
.They have failed.
That must hurt.

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• The Trump-backed bill is unlikely to ⁠become law before the midterms in November because Republicans lack the 60 votes needed for passage in the 100-member Senate.

Oh "voter suppression." How does that work again? Is that part of the "harm" argument that never explained who is harmed or exactly how?

I know! You should bring up niggers somehow and claim it's raaaayyyyyycissst.

 

[Holliday 3000]

You should bring up niggers somehow and claim it's raaaayyyyyycissst.

Do I ever do that?
.No, I do not.

In any case - The bill is dead, Reggie. You'll get over it just as you do all of the other bitter defeats.
..and it will be good practice for what's to come.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Do I ever do that?
.No, I do not.

Then explain how this fabled "voter suppression" works? Is Trump going to hire thugs to stand outside polling places to intimidate and chase away soy boy cucks like Mingie to "suppress" their votes?

 

[Holliday 3000]

Then explain how this fabled "voter suppression" works? Is Trump going to hire thugs to stand outside polling places to intimidate and chase away soy boy cucks like Mingie to "suppress" their votes?

No, although they did that in my MAGA town. Armed civilians (brown shirts) jus makin sher thins be dun rite.

You figure it out, Reggie.
..People have to get docs they don't have.
Pay to get them if they can. (that is a poll tax in effect)
People have to re register with marriage docs etc if they had a name change in marriage.
It's a clusterfuck designed to (as I've already explained) to make it more difficult to register for people who are more likely to vote in opposition to Repukeism.

It's all been laid out for you previously, so you will not get an answer to a question which you've already asked and which was answered multiple times.

PS: Giants do not have a 3rd QB on the active roster.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

No, although they did that in my MAGA town. Armed civilians (brown shirts) jus makin sher thins be dun rite.

Was the SPLC involved?

You figure it out, Reggie.
..People have to get docs they don't have.

Yeah?

Pay to get them if they can. (that is a poll tax in effect)

That's a laughable argument. You have to pay a fee to get a drivers license or a passport. Should those be free like the free busses in NYC?

People have to re register with marriage docs etc if they had a name change in marriage.

Yeah, so?

It's a clusterfuck designed to (as I've already explained) to make it more difficult to register for people who are more likely to vote in opposition to Repukeism.

Really? So you admit that Leftist Democrat filth are lazy and ignorant shitbags who are too stupid and lazy to bother to renew their documents to do their civic duty of voting?

It's all been laid out for you previously, so you will not get an answer to a question which you've already asked and which was answered multiple times.

No. Nothing you linked answers my very simple questions:

Who is "harmed" by securing ballot integrity?

How does "voter suppression" work, exactly?

PS: Giants do not have a 3rd QB on the active roster.

I'm sorry for your Giants, man. They should let that Skatterpoo guy play QB. He'd do better than that broken down muttonhead you have tonight.

 

[Holliday 3000]

That's a laughable argument. You have to pay a fee to get a drivers license or a passport. Should those be free like the free busses in NYC?

OMG! It isn't that you have to pay for them, it's that you have to pay for them in order to register to vote.
No pay, no vote. Get it?

 

[Holliday 3000]

Who is "harmed" by securing ballot integrity?

The people who would have difficulty registering to vote maybe?

How does "voter suppression" work, exactly?

By making it difficult to register to vote maybe?

 

[Reggie_Essent]

OMG! It isn't that you have to pay for them, it's that you have to pay for them in order to register to vote.
No pay, no vote. Get it?

So? What's your point? Do you think the lazy and ignorant Leftist Filth will be able to pay for it by the next election? There's Federal elections every two years and all kinds of State elections on a regular basis. Are you claiming that if the stupid and dumb America Hating Leftists don't get reregistered immediately that they'll never, ever be able to ever vote again ever?

Is that what you're claiming?

 

[Holliday 3000]

So? What's your point? Do you think the lazy and ignorant Leftist Filth will be able to pay for it by the next election? There's Federal elections every two years and all kinds of State elections on a regular basis. Are you claiming that if the stupid and dumb America Hating Leftists don't get reregistered immediately that they'll never, ever be able to ever vote again ever?

Is that what you're claiming?

It's the government's issue. Let them provide the IDs for all eligible voters. ALL of them free of charge.

Oh but wait - A national ID card.

IT's the Mark of the Beast !!!
Don't you remember how all of you contards went nuts at the very idea.
IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST ! LoLz.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

It's the government's issue. Let them provide the IDs for all eligible voters. ALL of them free of charge.

Oh but wait - A national ID card.

IT's the Mark of the Beast !!!
Don't you remember how all of you contards went nuts at the very idea.
IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST ! LoLz.

Haven't heard that one in a while. Is this the scary "Christian White Nationalists" your Betters told us were the greatest threat to America?

The people who would have difficulty registering to vote maybe?

This is not "harm." Many things in life are difficult. One must persevere in the face of adversity at times during one's life. Doing what is necessary to do one's civic duty is a character trait that seems absent amongst you Leftist drones.

To my question

How does "voter suppression" work, exactly?

By making it difficult to register to vote maybe?

So you're saying that if it's too difficult for the typical Democrat voter to get out of mom's basement that "voter suppression?" Really?

 

[Holliday 3000]

So you're saying

In the U.S., roughly 1.6 million women change their last name upon marriage each year, estimated from national marriage totals and adoption trends.

Approximately 40 million people (about 12.1% of the U.S. population) move to a new residence within the United States each year, based on

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If it's a civic duty the government should take the burden upon themselves to insure that each citizen can fulfill it.
Putting a burden upon people that they may fulfill a duty, which is a constitutional right actually, will indeed suppress voting.
. Think of all the handicapped people and people who haven't ready access to sources of documents, or people who haven't money available to purchase them. Excluding them damages the democratic process.
. btw - some thing I have long been in favor of is mandatory voting. 22 countries value the democratic process enough to insist upon fulfilling the civic duty that you want to limit.

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This is not "harm." Many things in life are difficult.

You have to travel across country and pay 5K to procure a document so you can vote, and you have 12 hrs to do it.
awww too bad for you if you can't manage it.
Things that are easy or unnecessary for you may be a very large burden, even impossible for some one else.
Try to understand that every life is not as luxurious and privileged as yours.

Oh, btw#2, election systems are devised by the states, here the federal goobmint is trying to control it.
That's just another basis on which the act won't fly.

Buh bye SAVE Act.

What you really want, Reggie, is voting to be exclusive for white male landowners.
.It's okay, Reggie, we know - you can admit it.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

In the U.S., roughly 1.6 million women change their last name upon marriage each year, estimated from national marriage totals and adoption trends.

So?

Approximately 40 million people (about 12.1% of the U.S. population) move to a new residence within the United States each year, based on

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es, and their names stay on the voter rolls in their old districts and Democrats "harvest" those ballots routinely and systemically. This is called "ballot fraud" and your Betters depend upon it to win elective offices.

If it's a civic duty the government should take the burden upon themselves to insure that each citizen can fulfill it.

No. It is a citizen's responsibility to register and vote, not the government's responsibility to hold their hands and wipe their butts for them.

Putting a burden upon people that they may fulfill a duty, which is a constitutional right actually, will indeed suppress voting.

Only for Democrat filth, and I'm fine with that.

. Think of all the handicapped people and people who haven't ready access to sources of documents, or people who haven't money available to purchase them. Excluding them damages the democratic process.

No it doesn't. That's the dumbest argument yet.

. btw - some thing I have long been in favor of is mandatory voting. 22 countries value the democratic process enough to insist upon fulfilling the civic duty that you want to limit.

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So if a free person chooses not to vote, your would force them to?

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ypical Leftist. Any thing not mandatory is compulsory. Why do you hate Liberty?

You have to travel across country and pay 5K to procure a document so you can vote, and you have 12 hrs to do it.
awww too bad for you if you can't manage it.

Where do you come up with this fantasy? $5k for what? A birth certificate? I don't think it costs $5k to get a copy of your birth certificate from your county of birth. And 12 hours? 12 hours for what?

Things that are easy or unnecessary for you may be a very large burden, even impossible for some one else.
Try to understand that every life is not as luxurious and privileged as yours.

Is this like a "niggers are too dumb to get a photo ID" argument?

Oh, btw#2, election systems are devised by the states, here the federal goobmint is trying to control it.
That's just another basis on which the act won't fly.

This is true. And States like Illinois, California and New Jersey are controlled by Democrat Filth who perpetuate the routine and systemic ballot fraud that has secured their stranglehold in those States. The SAVE Act merely mandates that States clean up their voter rolls of the dead, non-residents and illegal alien criminals. But the Democrats and only the Democrats are opposed to this simple and common sense measure to enhance public confidence in election integrity. Why do you think that is?

Buh bye SAVE Act.

What you really want, Reggie, is voting to be exclusive for white male landowners.
.It's okay, Reggie, we know - you can admit it.

What I want, Holliday, is to be able to have confidence in the veracity of election results. You seem to be fine with election fraud as long as your Betters, Democrat Filth, can continue to steal elections and disenfranchise your fellow Americans.

 

[Holliday 3000]

So if a free person chooses not to vote, your would force them to?

Of course not. I'd just fine them according to their means.
. You for example, maybe your glacial morass house.

PS: Gee, Raggs, I thought you were all hot on civic duty, now you want lazy disinterested sloths to have an easy out.

Paaaahshawwww.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Of course not. I'd just fine them according to their means.
. You for example, maybe your glacial morass house.

PS: Gee, Raggs, I thought you were all hot on civic duty, now you want lazy disinterested sloths to have an easy out.

Paaaahshawwww.

0.1 on the dismount. Sads ...

 

[Holliday 3000]

What I want, Holliday, is to be able to have confidence in the veracity of election results.

Which of course you can since there is no evidence of widespread, significant, election altering fraud.

. Why are you people so fixated on fixing a problem that doesn't exist?

Oh wait, maybe your puppet masters just want to throw doubt on election integrity w/o any proof that it exists so they can enact some voter suppression legislation. Yeeeeah...That's the ticket.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Which of course you can since there is no evidence of widespread, significant, election altering fraud.

This is called an "assertion." and by asserting what is clearly untrue based upon empirical observation, you are doing the work of your Betters to whom you bend your pussy little knee. Are you gonna start sucking Democrat Cock next like Mingie?

. Why are you people so fixated on fixing a problem that doesn't exist?

Oh look! Another assertion of what your Betters tell you to assert.

Oh wait, maybe your puppet masters just want to throw doubt on election integrity w/o any proof that it exists so they can enact some voter suppression legislation. Yeeeeah...That's the ticket.

There is already massive doubt among Americans regarding election integrity. Notice it is Democrats and ONLY Democrats who assert there are no problems. Why do you think that might be, Holliday?

 

[Holliday 3000]

There is already massive doubt among Americans regarding election integrity.

Sure, you've just confirmed what I wrote. Thanks for making it easy, pal.

Why are you people so fixated on fixing a problem that doesn't exist?

Oh wait, maybe your puppet masters just want to throw doubt on election integrity w/o any proof that it exists so they can enact some voter suppression legislation. Yeeeeah...That's the ticket.

See?

 

[jack]

There is already massive doubt among Americans regarding election integrity.

BULLSHIT

Two in three Americans are concerned about political leaders pressuring election officials to change election outcomes.

That's the concern. Not "illegals voting" or "election integrity"

Sorry ma'am, thems the facts.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Sure, you've just confirmed what I wrote. Thanks for making it easy, pal.


See?

There has been a steady loss of confidence in our electoral process among Americans for decades. Long before Trump came down that escalator.

Why do you keep deflecting from the fact that it is Democrats and only Democrats that are opposed to any and every common sense legislation that would restore the confidence of the American people in our electoral process?

Or is that yet another question that is just too hard for you to answer?

BULLSHIT

Two in three Americans are concerned about political leaders pressuring election officials to change election outcomes.

That's the concern. Not "illegals voting" or "election integrity"

Sorry ma'am, thems the facts.

Shut up, little jack. You're simply too dumb for this debate. Stick to teasing Fred about having two assholes. That's your speed. At least Holliday earnestly tries. He fails miserably every time, but he tries.

 

[jack]

There has been a steady loss of confidence in our electoral process among Americans for decades. Long before Trump came down that escalator.

Why do you keep deflecting from the fact that it is Democrats and only Democrats that are opposed to any and every common sense legislation that would restore the confidence of the American people in our electoral process?

Or is that yet another question that is just too hard for you to answer?


Shut up, little jack. You're simply too dumb for this debate. Stick to teasing Fred about having two assholes. That's your speed. At least Holliday earnestly tries. He fails miserably every time, but he tries.

Does your skin peel or flake off, mr Tard?

 

[Holliday 3000]

There has been a steady loss of confidence in our electoral process among Americans for decades. Long before Trump came down that escalator.

Are you referring to the stolen election of 2000? Well yeah that.
. But do show that your statement is factual with supporting data.
What is fact is that voter confidence has declined sharply since 2024.
What happened in 2024? There haven't been many elections, so why has trust declined if not because someone has actively been sowing doubt. But who would do that for what reason? Well, that has already been explained.

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The Center has been surveying Americans about trust in elections since 2022. Trust has declined significantly from a relative high point after the 2024 election, when 77% of respondents said they were “somewhat” or “very” confident that votes were counted accurately.

By January 2026, that assessment dropped to 60% and fell again to just 55% among respondents in the recent survey conducted in September.

Trust among Republicans and Independents declined more than among Democrats, but all three groups trust elections less now than they did after the 2024 election.

“We’re in a unique moment in American politics when you even have to survey people about whether they think there’ll be free and fair elections,” Thad Kousser, co-director of the Center, said during a webinar discussing the survey.