Jeffrey Sachs on Trump/US wars at EU Parliament

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Good comment on vid.

As long as rich men profit massively due to warmongering. As long as rich men pay no personal price for their warmongering. And as long as the rich man's greed cannot be satisfied. There will be no change.

 

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Good comment on vid.

As long as rich men profit massively due to warmongering. As long as rich men pay no personal price for their warmongering. And as long as the rich man's greed cannot be satisfied. There will be no change.


Um, sweetheart. Trump is trying to stop a war. It is you Lefties who are mongering to continue it.
 

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Jeffery Sachs will tell you that NATO forced the war.

You Leftist idiots realize this, right?
 

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One war at a time, dear.

So tell me, Lotus, why do you suddenly support the Military Industrial Complex, American Imperialism and endless taxpayer financed forever wars in Europe?


He's a buffoon. You know he's a buffoon. I don't know how you fake it.
 

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I will post a video of Jeffery Sachs explaining how NATO/USA (pre-Trump) caused this war.

You Leftists should prepare for some serious Cognitive Dissonance.
 

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It's Russia/USSR that has a history of invading other countries, e.g., Poland, in concert with Germany. Let's not forget most Eastern European countries.

NATO was formed because of what Russia, before Germany turned on them, and Germany did, not the other way around.

Do people not remember history?
 

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It's Russia/USSR that has a history of invading other countries, e.g., Poland, in concert with Germany. Let's not forget most Eastern European countries.

NATO was formed because of what Russia, before Germany turned on them, and Germany did, not the other way around.

Do people not remember history?
Before NATO, The European powers were at war a whole lot of the time, with NATO Europe has seen the longest stretch of peaceful cooperation perhaps in History. We had to go over against our will in WW1 and WW2 we were tired of having to constantly separate "our parents"
 

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I will post a video of Jeffery Sachs explaining how NATO/USA (pre-Trump) caused this war.

You Leftists should prepare for some serious Cognitive Dissonance.

While you Leftists try to blame this war on what happened pre-1950, Jeffery Sachs will explain to you the real reason for this war.

But will you listen?
 

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Good comment on vid.

As long as rich men profit massively due to warmongering. As long as rich men pay no personal price for their warmongering. And as long as the rich man's greed cannot be satisfied. There will be no change.



This is so funny.

I have been listening to some of this video. It is stuff that Sachs has been saying for a long time....

He blames.....


Clinton.

Bush.

Obama.

Biden.


Not Trump.


You idiots.
 

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Jeffrey Sachs bashes every President since the fall of the Soviet Union, including Trump
 

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Jeffrey Sachs bashes every President since the fall of the Soviet Union, including Trump

Sure, but he also explains very clearly that USA under Clinton, Obama, and Biden forced the war through NATO expansion.
 

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Sure, but he also explains very clearly that USA under Clinton, Obama, and Biden forced the war through NATO expansion.


Yes, and his answer to this dilemma is to fondle Russia, make them feel safe and then we can spend all this money on Americans and there will be a peaceful world and everyone will be happy.

and kumbaya my lord, kumbaya

 

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Yes, and his answer to this dilemma is to fondle Russia, make them feel safe and then we can spend all this money on Americans and there will be a peaceful world and everyone will be happy.

and kumbaya my lord, kumbaya



Russia was forced into a war and has taken some territory.

Why would they give it back?
 

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Russia was forced into a war and has taken some territory.

Why would they give it back?

Because their invasion was illegal. They are acting outside of international rules.

I do accept your surrender on the Russians are innocent bystanders argument.
 

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Because their invasion was illegal. They are acting outside of international rules.

Point out the International Rules and provide proof that Russia agreed to them.


I do accept your surrender on the Russians are innocent bystanders argument.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You do not present arguments or proofs well.

Try to provide a step-by-step logical argument.
 

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Point out the International Rules and provide proof that Russia agreed to them.




I have no idea what you are talking about. You do not present arguments or proofs well.

Try to provide a step-by-step logical argument.

Russia recognized Ukrainian territorial integrity in 93/94 in exchange for the Russians taking control of Ukrainian nukes.
 

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Russia recognized Ukrainian territorial integrity in 93/94 in exchange for the Russians taking control of Ukrainian nukes.

So?

That was over 30 years ago.

Since then, a lot has happened.

Sachs explained a lot of it.

Here, you need to refresh your memory:

 

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Waiting for Lardo to make a reference to the 1700's Hahaha!!!!
NATO expanded because those countries have been INVADED...ffs, you're a moron.

That is not true.

I will make it easy for you: When was Sweden invaded?