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Not even close. The disparities between the two movies are too far. Sure you have Corey Feldman playing a pre-criminal Judd Nelson. That's where it ends. The timeline, the economic and the overall class level between the two groups propels them from each other at light speed.

What Stand By Me is prolly a semi-personal memoir of what Bachman wanted incorporated into his childhood, had he had the chance to change it.

Here's another fact. Stand By Me was a book first, whereas The Breakfast Club was written as a screenplay by John Hughes and was never a book.

So, quite some differences.



What the story Stand By Me is trying to convey is the profound loss of innocence. The body being the very catalyst of making the boys into men, and them fending for themselves. If you remember the camping scene, you'll also remember Jerry O'Connell's character dropping his burger on a stick into the fire, thus causing him to omit dinner that night. It was little dollops of detail that made the story a page turner.

In the climax, the gang finally sees the body and has a run in with Kiefer Sutherland's Lost Boys character and his gang. Again, the symbolism is when the boys fight back and Gordie pulls out a gun to repel the bullies, is a metaphor for innocence lost.

You've read the short, right?
Long time ago I read it.

My point as to the similarities of Stand By Me and Breakfast Club is a group of people getting to know more about each other than ever before and getting closer & bonding because of it. Finding appreciation for fellow human beings. Both stories are group therapies. Thinking the grass is greener on the other side is folly. The joker kid thinks the jock kid has it better or the preppy kid with rich parents has it easier when all have imperfect lives.

And to your point Stand By Me has the loss of innocence factor to it in addition to different personalities bonding.

We should start a book & movie club, Flynn. What is your address again? I'll bring a house warming gift in the form of some neighborhood bums (cats), that I don't feel like feeding anymore. Some torties. Some more black than orange. One more orange than black. When I look at them, I think orange really is the new black.
 

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I won't say the people who wrote the ad didn't lean on controversy because they believed even bad publicity is good & free publcity. But to bring eugenics into it just to sell pants blows my mind. No way they meant it to be THAT deep.

I heard Sweeney isn't even a true blonde. I'm gonna check her carpet and get back to ya Lily. Hopefully it's not shaved & waxed or I'll be there all night! Pant pant.

Well, once you start bringing genetics into something you just might be going a little deeper than is needed to sell a pair of jeans.

As for having a great ass, I think that's depends on who's deciding. I saw a picture of her in profile, she hardly has an ass. Not compared to brown and black women butts anyway.

Check out Karol G, Colombian songstress, Salma Hayek, and Sofia Vergara as examples. Our standards are clearly different.
 

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Is this thread about that hot Sweeny chick?

Yeah. She has good genes. Tall. Blond. Nice rack. Perfect thighs and an ass that won't go all "jablongo" after popping out a few kids like the browner shades of human bitches tend to do.

I bred my children on a similar human female.

One should always breed for betterment.
 

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Is this thread about that hot Sweeny chick?

Yeah. She has good genes. Tall. Blond. Nice rack. Perfect thighs and an ass that won't go all "jablongo" after popping out a few kids like the browner shades of human bitches tend to do.

I bred my children on a similar human female.

One should always breed for betterment.

I don't even know what you mean by "jablongo"...can you say that in English please?

Sydney Sweeney is a mediocre celebrity. You weirdos always get hard ons for the girls that were Disney stars, perverts.
 

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I don't even know what you mean by "jablongo"...can you say that in English please?
In plain English it means that brown girl asses tend to blow up exponentially after having children. Everyone reading this knows exactly what I'm talking about.

It happens to white girls too, but there are white girl certain gems, like the one I married, genetic gifts, who can push out a few papooses yet their asses never grow afterwards like the Great Pumpkin on Halloween.

I swear I've seen beaner girls who are hot as fuck when they are young and nubile, but after a kid or two and ten or 15 years, their asses are 20 miles wide.
 

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I don't even know what you mean by "jablongo"...can you say that in English please?

Sydney Sweeney is a mediocre celebrity. You weirdos always get hard ons for the girls that were Disney stars, perverts.


Never saw her in anything and can't be bothered to.

Just as a specimen, she's fit as fuck..

Not some fat mountain mestizo or ghetto queen with their fupas eating their waterfall tits.

...being fit requires a room temperature IQ or better. Just sayin'....
 

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In plain English it means that brown girl asses tend to blow up exponentially after having children. Everyone reading this knows exactly what I'm talking about.

It happens to white girls too, but there are white girl certain gems, like the one I married, genetic gifts, who can push out a few papooses yet their asses never grow afterwards like the Great Pumpkin on Halloween.

I swear I've seen beaner girls who are hot as fuck when they are young and nubile, but after a kid or two and ten or 15 years, their asses are 20 miles wide.

That's a stupid stereotype.

You pretend you're not surrounded by corn fed heifers in the midwest...

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Never saw her in anything and can't be bothered to.

Just as a specimen, she's fit as fuck..

Not some fat mountain mestizo or ghetto queen with their fupas eating their waterfall tits.

...being fit requires a room temperature IQ or better. Just sayin'....


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Long time ago I read it.

You might want to get familiar with the story once more.

My point as to the similarities of Stand By Me and Breakfast Club is a group of people getting to know more about each other than ever before and getting closer & bonding because of it. Finding appreciation for fellow human beings. Both stories are group therapies. Thinking the grass is greener on the other side is folly. The joker kid thinks the jock kid has it better or the preppy kid with rich parents has it easier when all have imperfect lives.

Your point is that every coming to age and teen angst movie has the whole bonding thing going on? Yes, it's a timeless and winning formula. For The Breakfast Club, yes. The kids in Stand By Me were childhood friends, whereas every single person in The Breakfast Club may have known about one another, but definitely didn't know-know one another.

Finding appreciation for fellow human beings? What fucking story are you reading? You're making Stand By Me sound like some feel good Pixar animated matinee. Far from it. The people the guys knew in Stand By Me were mostly pieces of shit.

You're comparing apples and oranges when you get into the social aspects of each character. What does the interaction between Judd Nelson's character and Emilio Estevez's character have to do with Stand By Me?

You state the obvious about how the detention kids saw each other. That was never a mystery in The Breakfast Club. The question was, how does a jock, nerd, cheerleader, misfit, and someone mentally and physically abused act towards each other knowing that on Monday, they won't ever say anything to each other in the hallway. This is nothing more than John Hughes acting out his childhood dream, therefore we cannot accept that as any kind of reality, along with any kind of serious debate.

And to your point Stand By Me has the loss of innocence factor to it in addition to different personalities bonding.

Bonding? Not in The Breakfast Club. They even ask the question as The Simple Minds allude to this in their hit song:



As for the guys in Stand By Me, they were all already bonded by socio-economic and hardships felt by a poorer class of people.

We should start a book & movie club, Flynn. What is your address again? I'll bring a house warming gift in the form of some neighborhood bums (cats), that I don't feel like feeding anymore. Some torties. Some more black than orange. One more orange than black. When I look at them, I think orange really is the new black.

For us to start a book & movie club, it would be nice if one of the founders actually reread the book, so he knows what fuck he's talking about.

That's a start.