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Show me where they excluded them.

Hey Flynntard
Yer damn luck Officer Iceman didn't consider you a invasion force under Article 4, Section 4, and shoot you on the spot. LoLz

I already explained this was drafted in the 1700's. No illegal immigrants, except for the founding fathers. The 4th Amendment was made for those that came over.

So, at that time no illegal immigrants existed, except the founding fathers.

I'm talking about the original 4th Amendment. As you can see the original 4th Amendment had no sections. You keep trying to say it was made for illegals too. How is that when there were no illegals?

You. Are. Wrong.

But you already know this.
 

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No one has written more in favor of secure borders and against "illegal alien" labor on these boards than I have.
..No one.
..but what I write is always founded in Liberal principles and not conservative/Libertarian non-government interventionist views. Open borders in conservatism.
..but, I do not violate Liberal principles and disregard the Bill of Rights as you a Nazi admirer do.

See, you are involved with an illegal or you are one. You're lucky I don't know who you are, or I'd let I.C.E. know where you and your family reside.
 

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How were the founders "illegal immigrants" when there were no laws regarding immigration?

And you claim to be smart.

:LOL3::LOL3::LOL3::LOL3:

Our founding fathers were the first illegal aliens, ask the Native Americans in America.

Get lost pig, no one's talking to you. Stop riding on my coattails hog, go find someone to try to mind fuck, you bitter cunt.
 

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And you claim to be smart.

:LOL3::LOL3::LOL3::LOL3:

Our founding fathers were the first illegal aliens, ask the Native Americans in America.

Get lost pig, no one's talking to you. Stop riding on my coattails hog, go find someone to try to mind fuck, you bitter cunt.

I am smart.

The founders were the descendants of English colonists for the most part.

What Indian tribes had immigration laws? Cite them.
 

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Because your betters told you?
The wording doesn't specify anyone or exclude anyone.
You know why that is, Ragtard?...because it includes all persons, no exceptions.
Thirdly - read the many scholars and lawyers I linked wholesale who say that it applies to all people.
It isn't what I think, its what they say. The fact is that it is not legal to take a person without cause (legal, through the courts), or their property without due process, and THAT starts with the 4th amendment.

As one person quite rightly noted, that is why there is an immigration court system and immigration lawyers etc.
Can't disappear folks, Raggs, no matter how much you'd like to.
Uh, yeah, no.

You know why that is, Ragtard?...because it includes all persons, no exceptions.
We went through all that regarding the negroes and the injuns as to what an American "Citizen" is. It's quite established in the Corpus of US Law.

It does NOT include "all persons" and it certainly doesn't say "no exceptions."
It only applies to Citizens of the United States of America.

Only a Traitor to the fundamental ideals of our nation would support the invasion of 20 to 40 million illegal alien criminals into our nation.

What's wrong with you?
 

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I am smart.

The founders were the offspring of English colonists.

What Indian tribes had immigration laws? Cite them.

Soo smart you go caught passing out P.I. So smart that EVERYONE knows you use people.

Yeah, you're just sooo smart, if you were a fucking dog.

And who was here in America first? Our founding fathers, or the Native Americans or/and wetbacks like you and your family?

You fucking cite it if you want it. Like your fat ass is going to give me orders. That might work with @Jack and Hollidumb.

Cunt.
 

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Soo smart you go caught passing out P.I. So smart that EVERYONE knows you use people.

Yeah, you're just sooo smart, if you were a fucking dog.

And who was here in America first? Our founding fathers, or the Native Americans and wetbacks like you and your family.

The English colonists could be called "invaders", or "conquerors" like the Spanish conquistadores, but they were not illegal immigrants.

There were no immigration laws, moron.

You are a class one idiot.

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I already explained this was drafted in the 1700's. No illegal immigrants, except for the founding fathers. The 4th Amendment was made for those that came over.

So, at that time no illegal immigrants existed, except the founding fathers.

I'm talking about the original 4th Amendment. As you can see the original 4th Amendment had no sections. You keep trying to say it was made for illegals too. How is that when there were no illegals?

You. Are. Wrong.

But you already know this.
How do you not understand that no distinction was made between classes of people, Flynntardo?
. These rights were extended to ALL people.
If they weren't they would have been duly noted.

Further to your proposed continued embarrassment...
...take it up with a Constitutional scholar (whose understanding you have already been informed of), or maybe
yer congressman...who will roll their eyes and laugh at you as surely as I have.

 

Flynn

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The English colonists could be called "invaders", or "conquerors" like the Spanish conquistadores, but they were not illegal immigrants.

Yes they were. They took North America from the Native Americans and Spics like you.

Cite your source.

There were no immigration laws, moron.

You are a class one idiot.

Hey moron, no one said there was. I just pointed out that the white man was the first interloper, i.e. illegal immigrant.

What do you call it when you come to a land owned by someone else and just take it?

I'm glad you said there were no illegal immigrants in the 1700's, you just owned yourself with Holligay stated the 1700's 4th Amendment includes illegal immigrants.

Thank for showing how smart you are you fucking whale.
 

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Yes they were. They took North America from the Native Americans and Spics like you.

Cite your source.



Hey moron, no one said there was. I just pointed out that the white man was the first interloper, i.e. illegal immigrant.

What do you call it when you come to a land owned by someone else and just take it?

I'm glad you said there were no illegal immigrants in the 1700's, you just owned yourself with Holligay stated the 1700's 4th Amendment includes illegal immigrants.

Thank for showing how smart you are you fucking whale.

You can't be an illegal immigrant without a legal system.

Cite where there are records, a court system and judges, lawyers among the tribes. I will read them as soon as you provide them.
 

Flynn

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How do you not understand that no distinction was made between classes of people, Flynntardo?
. These rights were extended to ALL people.
If they weren't they would have been duly noted.

Further to your proposed continued embarrassment...
...take it up with a Constitutional scholar (whose understanding you have already been informed of), or maybe
yer congressman...who will roll their eyes and laugh at you as surely as I have.



Even Lily threw you under the bus. If illegals didn't exist when it was written, how can it include ALL ILLEGALS?

That's right dummy, you're wrong.

LMFAO!!!!
 

Flynn

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The English colonists could be called "invaders", or "conquerors" like the Spanish conquistadores, but they were not illegal immigrants.

There were no immigration laws, moron.

You are a class one idiot.

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Lily is making up shit. They weren't invaders. Read history. They made friends with the natives.

Stupid!

This is Lily logic. :LOL3:
 

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Yes they were. They took North America from the Native Americans and Spics like you.

Cite your source.



Hey moron, no one said there was. I just pointed out that the white man was the first interloper, i.e. illegal immigrant.

What do you call it when you come to a land owned by someone else and just take it?

I'm glad you said there were no illegal immigrants in the 1700's, you just owned yourself with Holligay stated the 1700's 4th Amendment includes illegal immigrants.

Thank for showing how smart you are you fucking whale.

Hey Sparky, the first "colonists" arrived at Jamestown in 1607. Quite a long time before the Declaration of Independence.
 

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Hey Sparky, the first "colonists" arrived at Jamestown in 1607. Quite a long time before the Declaration of Independence.

I never said when they got here. I said when the 4th Amendment was written.

Proving you can't read again. This is why I always own your fat ass.
 

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You don't own anything. You call colonists "illegal immigrants"

You lost the whole plot right there, you ignorant moron.

I own you and your many posts to me prove this.

I have owned you since the SG days,and you just can't stand that I'm smarter, funnier, an thinner than you.

You've always been jealous of me.