Bernie Sanders how AI could wipe out the American Working Class

[Joe]

 

[Frood]

I don't ever want to listen to or read another second of that hypocrite cunt's words again.

Fuck that fake commie piece of shit.

 

[The Prowler]

What an idiot.

When he said "I am not a Luddite" I laughed.

That is exactly what he is.


Some of "his" ideas.....

1) A 32 hour work week

Wow. I almost feel like I said something about that before...

In 2021....

A 40 hour work week makes no sense with the technological advancements we have made.

Imagine that the standard work week was 32 hours and that is what workers actually worked in a week - no more than 32 hours.

In 2023...

A 40 hour work week should be a thing of the past. A 24-32 hour work week will be the norm.

In 2024...

The 40 hour work week is a problem.

In 2025...

This is the start of a great paradigm shift.

The 40 hour work week will be gone.

It means we have options, such as:

A) Decreasing the hours that employees need to work. A 20-25 hour work week should be standard.

B) Create more "life-enhancing" activities and employ people to run things.

2) Put workers on the Board of Directors

Dumb idea. Not all companies employ workers who have the intelligence to contribute at that level.


2) Employees owning shares in companies

Employees can already buy shares in any publicly traded company. A company cannot just start giving the employees shares of the company - that dilutes the ownership of existing shareholders. That is just a childish idea by a person who does not understand how the ownership of corporations work.

4) His 4th idea is just a rehash of 2 and 3...

5) Tax companies for being efficient

Obviously a stupid idea. American companies need to be competitive in a global market. And we know Bernie just loves the global market.

 

[Joe]

When he said "I am not a Luddite" I laughed.

That is exactly what he is.

Actually I'm a Luddite & proud of it Lex @The Prowler

I don't use Chat GPT, OpenAI or any other AI related tool if I can help it.

Embrace them if you like but I think many people will regret it later.

Just my 2 cents tho.

 

[Jack]

It's enetertaining watching Prowler show everyone how fuckin' stupid he is.

 

[Fredricka]

It's enetertaining watching Prowler show everyone how fuckin' stupid he is.

It's entertaining watching you hide in here

 

[Jack]

Actually I'm a Luddite & proud of it Lex @The Prowler

I'd be the opposite. Started with a pcjr fully loaded for my first computer and just have grown to the current beast I have. Had every game system produced in america at one time or another.

AI is useful, but not as a replacement for your own original artisitic thought. I guess if you have no artistic ability to begin with it can be satisfying to see what you think become a visible rendition.

Same with ChatGPT. Seems like you have to feed it your creativity to get some "glamorous" response. I can spot a GPT script a mile away. Mostly because it's sterile and boring.

Slow but steady wins the race.

 

[Frood]

AI will ruin mankind. They'll have to EMP the planet to get rid of it.... that will their reasoning and excuse to plunge the remaining into neo-feudalism.

 

[LotusBud]

That will make the CONs happy as hell. Misery invigorates them.

 

[LotusBud]

I'd be the opposite. Started with a pcjr fully loaded for my first computer and just have grown to the current beast I have. Had every game system produced in america at one time or another.

AI is useful, but not as a replacement for your own original artisitic thought. I guess if you have no artistic ability to begin with it can be satisfying to see what you think become a visible rendition.

Same with ChatGPT. Seems like you have to feed it your creativity to get some "glamorous" response. I can spot a GPT script a mile away. Mostly because it's sterile and boring.

Slow but steady wins the race.

Yes, but the profit mongers give no shits about creativity. The only thing they want to create is more wealth and power. Thinking and creating people actually scare them.

 

[Frood]

So Locustbug is a teddy bear to them?

 

[The Prowler]

Actually I'm

That is exactly when I lost interest in Senile @Joe's post.

 

[The Prowler]

Irony Alert!!!!!

It's enetertaining watching Prowler show everyone how fuckin' stupid he is.

Is Jack the most hopeless person to ever visit Flame Town?

 

[Frood]

Jack is a "Gums for Hire"....

 

[The Prowler]

The posts in this thread could be used to determine who are prime candidates for the Depopulation Program.

 

[Frood]

60% of the US and 88.794169% of the Commonwealth nations' populations by my dead reckoning...

 

[Joe]

That is exactly when I lost interest in Senile @Joe's post.

Yknow Lex @The Prowler just because something is AI enhanced or driven, doesn't mean itll be any better, especially for the end consumers like ourselves.

One example is Adobe Software like Photoshop which is turning into a Chat GPT lite. You the end user type in a command like 'dog' and it makes a picture of a dog for you. But it's just shitty & i see reviews that a lotta of their software crashes a lot now. seems what they had 15 years ago is better than what they got now with their AI enhanced stuff.

And computers you used to build yourself will be replaced by little iMac type computers that'll do everything for you. and they won't necessarily be any better but just less control for the end user

I think most people want to use computers & technology they control , not the kind that controls them, eh. ie a self driving car vs one you actually steer and drive yourself. which one would you prefer?

That's what I meant by 'luddite' by in a modern sense Prowler.

 

[Frood]

AI generated imagery is a tool for an artist and a cheat for a non artist.

I don't consider myself to be an artist but I'll use AI sparingly to create components that can be chopped and integrated into a broader work or attempt at something.

It's basically advanced collage or scrap booking.

 

[The Prowler]

If I want a picture of a dog I will use my camera, Senile Joe.

Is that scary new technology too?

 

[Frood]

If I want a picture of my dog eating an old boot on Mars, I'll ask for my dog's breed and colour eating a combat boot on Mars then manually blend my dog's head into it, and find a Mars rover pic to blend all of that into (through reverse image search in order to match hues and filters rather than trying to do it all on an old smartphone). Then I'd bounce between half a dozen apps for various effects or tools constantly saving newest versions and revisiting them between the apps.

I've learned to do these sort of things often in under ten minutes tops..

Is it art? No, yes, maybe kind of.

Was AI the author? No.

 

[The Prowler]

If I want a picture of my dog eating an old boot on Mars, I'll ask for my dog's breed and colour eating a combat boot on Mars then manually blend my dog's head into it, and find a Mars rover pic to blend all of that into (through reverse image search in order to match hues and filters rather than trying to do it all on an old smartphone). Then I'd bounce between half a dozen apps for various effects or tools constantly saving newest versions and revisiting them between the apps.

I've learned to do these sort of things often in under ten minutes tops..

Is it art? No, yes, maybe kind of.

Was AI the author? No.

Fuck.

There goes another 2000 jobs.

 

[Frood]

Fuck.

There goes another 2000 jobs.

 

[Frood]

I'm not aware of anyone who does what I've done over the last decade or so on always outdated android phones, and that's well before AI came into its own.

You're saying I should have started my own channel?

 

[Seamajor]

60% of the US and 88.794169% of the Commonwealth nations' populations by my dead reckoning...

How would a fruit picker from Australia, who owes the IRS, know shit from shinola ? You’re a born liar DD

 

[Joe]

If I want a picture of a dog I will use my camera, Senile Joe.

Is that scary new technology too?

Funny you should mention that Lex @The Prowler.

I went out yesterday & bought a new camera:

The Panasonic s1-H - a Netflix approved camera used to make their shows.

Reason I show you this, is the way photography is goin' they'll probably one day became these AI boxes where the user issues voice commands and tells the camera what to take photos of. Or else they'll all be pre-programmed. I noticed a lot of these cameras now come with 'AI enhanced features'. So with cameras of the future, will it be you who'll be taking these photos or some AI bot? It probably won't be much of a user experience. Just like the coming driverless cars that drive you instead of you driving them.

anyways, it was a good deal, about 30% off, and I don't think I'll find another camera of that calibre at that price again.

Especially from the 'ancient' pre-AI area, Prowler.

What the regular price is and what it was selling for Lex:

I got the camera AND the lense for less than the original price of the camera body plus extended warranty for less than $4400 including all the sales taxes. That's maybe 2500 Euros, $3,000 US or $5000 AUS. I think I got it at cost Brand New. Add in inflation and it was a really good deal since when the camera first came out, dollar has lost 25% or more of its purchasing power.

Camera sells for $3000 or so used on eBay with a lense, but no warranty nor any guarantee that they're damage free.

Anyways, glad ta get it cuz our days of using cameras the end user controls could be coming to an end soon.

Perhaps within the next 10 years when photography gets taken over and controlled by AI too.

 

[Frood]

Funny you should mention that Lex @The Prowler.

I went out yesterday & bought a new camera:

The Panasonic s1-H - a Netflix approved camera used to make their shows.

Reason I show you this, is the way photography is goin' they'll probably one day became these AI boxes where the user issues voice commands and tells the camera what to take photos of. Or else they'll all be pre-programmed. I noticed a lot of these cameras now come with 'AI enhanced features'. So with cameras of the future, will it be you who'll be taking these photos or some AI bot? It probably won't be much of a user experience. Just like the coming driverless cars that drive you instead of you driving them.

anyways, it was a good deal, about 30% off, and I don't think I'll find another camera of that calibre at that price again.

Especially from the 'ancient' pre-AI area, Prowler.

What the regular price is and what it was selling for Lex:

I got the camera AND the lense for less than the original price of the camera body plus extended warranty for less than $4400 including all the sales taxes. That's maybe 2500 Euros, $3,000 US or $5000 AUS. I think I got it at cost Brand New. Add in inflation and it was a really good deal since when the camera first came out, dollar has lost 25% or more of its purchasing power.

Camera sells for $3000 or so used on eBay with a lense, but no warranty nor any guarantee that they're damage free.

Anyways, glad ta get it cuz our days of using cameras the end user controls could be coming to an end soon.

Perhaps within the next 10 years when photography gets taken over and controlled by AI too.

^^^ random Spectrum Shit.

 

[Joe]

^^^ random Spectrum Shit.

A lotta stuff we take for granted is gonna get worse @Frood

Already i see all this grumbling about Microsoft dropping support for Windows 11 which is much more AI driven & controlling. just like all that other AI shit.

You don't control it. it controls you you don't use it. it uses you

 

[Frood]

A lotta stuff we take for granted is gonna get worse @Frood

Already i see all this grumbling about Microsoft dropping support for Windows 11 which is much more AI driven & controlling. just like all that other AI shit.

You don't control it. it controls you you don't use it. it uses you

When do you hope your balls will eventually drop?

 

[The Prowler]

I went out yesterday & bought a new camera:

Your hands look less girly than before.

And where did the age spots go?

 

[Joe]

Your hands look less girly than before.

And where did the age spots go?

It's jes a stock photo Lex @The Prowler.

I didn't have time to take photos of the actual item but I can if you want. I haven't even taken the camera out of the box yet

Btw, the camera and box which holds it is very heavy.It weighs more than one of those old laptops from the 1980s/90s. 10 lbs?

It's not really a practical camera for lugging around. I think it's meant for sitting or standing in 1 spot for
extended periods of time.

If I was to use a camera to travel with, itd be something much lighter and mobile.

Maybe the s1h is so damn heavy because it's got a professional video & photo stills camera inside. They actually use this model for Netflix movies and tv ads/commercials.

It feels like its meant for a studio rather than every day use.