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Floods Thrust Climate Change to Center of German Campaign as Toll Mounts

With more than 160 dead across the region, the receding waters revealed extensive damage as well as deep political divides around how far and fast Germans should go to stem carbon use.

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You better look up China to, people drowning floods all over the place...
 

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CO2 produced by man has nothing to do with weather.

...possibly.

But the destruction of the environment & pollution has a lot to do with the quality of the air we breath and how long we live, Lokmeer eg - China

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...much of the world is actually like this.

We git spoiled silly in North America.
Yea, when you libtards gonna stop China? Any minute now?

...the point being...even if you don't believe hat fossil fuels cause global warming/climate change, they cause pollution.

So even if you don't believe the climate changers, you ought to support a reduction of fossils fuel to clean up the air and the oceans. Cuz the latter are clogged with plastic garbage, which of course are made from fossil fuels...Lokmeer!
Fossil fuels actually DONT cause pollution in America josephine. Are you aware that diesel catalysts have brought particulate and NOX emissions down over 90%? The coal fired plant that was built here 20 years ago that they'll be shutting down in another 10 has super low emissions too! AND they capture the CO2 to boot! As of the early 2000's, GM catalyst tech emits almost zero carbon monoxide. Instead of being such a dumb ass, you should look into the actual science sometime.

Well...even if fossil fuels don't cause air pollution as yu claim....

....wouldn't it make more sense to purchase a hybrid vehicle which got 60 mpg as opposed to a gas guzzer which gets just 30 mpg?

And if your running a business, and you're trying to cut costs, say a commercial transport where savings count towards increasing your revenues, why would you want to consume more gas? It's just more expense.

It's like people who spend $80-1000 on a caviar phone plan when they could go to a cut rate provider, pay $40 per month instead, and use the savings toward ssomething else.

The more money you save on gas, the more revenue gets put back into your pocket from the money you didn't spend on gas.

you know batteries eventually don't hold their charge right and that batteries in elecric cars cost $12,000 to replace... how many family guys are going to be able to afford a battery change? Lemme guess,.... No one?

Any saving on fuel is going towards a battery....

No one single "renewable item," ie solar panels, wind turbines, anything, isn't made without fossil fuels...

I've been rearching... todays dumb ideas is the next generations BIG recycle headache. BIG HEADACHE.
 

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Okay......are you saying God is with the GOP?

What's political here?

The fact that most cons deny climate change, so any mention of it sends them into a whirlwind of hysteria and cuckedness. You didn't know that?

"Cons" dont deny climate change. Leftists claim "cons" deny climate change.

People "deny" the political narrative surrounding climate change. Big difference.

Bullshit. I can't count the number of times CONs have said, and I quote, "Climate change doesn't exist."
You're a blatant moron
 

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Red Tide. 1200 tons of dead fish in Tampa Bay.

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Despite pleas from the city of St. Petersburg, environmentalists and activists, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis doubled down Wednesday and again refused to declare a state of emergency for
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Why it matters: DeSantis said his office is committed to working with the community to fight the red tide, but argued that a state of emergency would hurt businesses by sending the message that "Florida has problems."

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Yeah,, but Floriduh has problems. Plenty of them.
other than this naturally occurring phenomenon that is usually the result of a strong storm what problems do we have ?
 
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Red Tide. 1200 tons of dead fish in Tampa Bay.

De Santis gives no shits.

Despite pleas from the city of St. Petersburg, environmentalists and activists, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis doubled down Wednesday and again refused to declare a state of emergency for
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Why it matters: DeSantis said his office is committed to working with the community to fight the red tide, but argued that a state of emergency would hurt businesses by sending the message that "Florida has problems."

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Yeah,, but Floriduh has problems. Plenty of them.
Whats the reduction of diesel pollution, you unhinged lyin cunt?

Are you claiming there's no pollution from diesel engines?
Whats the reduction of diesel pollution, you unhinged lyin cunt? I gave you the link!!!!

Reduction does not equal elimination, Jethro.
 
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  • Utah is loosening fishing restrictions as drought and hot temperatures threaten to kill fish.
  • The state says the changes will allow anglers to "harvest additional fish prior to fish loss."
  • Warm water has less dissolved oxygen. For fish, this can stunt growth, cause disease, and even kill.
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Get your fish now, before there are no fish left!
 

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Red Tide. 1200 tons of dead fish in Tampa Bay.

De Santis gives no shits.

Despite pleas from the city of St. Petersburg, environmentalists and activists, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis doubled down Wednesday and again refused to declare a state of emergency for
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Why it matters: DeSantis said his office is committed to working with the community to fight the red tide, but argued that a state of emergency would hurt businesses by sending the message that "Florida has problems."

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Yeah,, but Floriduh has problems. Plenty of them.
Whats the reduction of diesel pollution, you unhinged lyin cunt?

Are you claiming there's no pollution from diesel engines?
Whats the reduction of diesel pollution, you unhinged lyin cunt? I gave you the link!!!!

Reduction does not equal elimination, Jethro.
Whats the reduction of diesel pollution, you unhinged lyin cunt? I gave you the link!!!! Why cant you post the number? At least tell us your opinion of the number!
 

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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

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Floods Thrust Climate Change to Center of German Campaign as Toll Mounts

With more than 160 dead across the region, the receding waters revealed extensive damage as well as deep political divides around how far and fast Germans should go to stem carbon use.

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You better look up China to, people drowning floods all over the place...

I watched some clips last night, absolutely mental.
 

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Aidsman comes from a long line of Marxist morons evidently, LULZ @ him and his family of anally birthed libfags.

Many were. Their parents are the same and taught them this as well as proggy schools and then university. Left wing academia is where these...."ideas" came from.

I had a group of friends in middle/high school. Thanks to Facebook.... I'm still connected with them. They are all still friends. All went to uni after highschool(all from wealthier families)....all are progressive today. They were all from priviledged families.

One of them....who was one of my best friends....is so progressive he lives in NY and works at Huffpost lol. The sad thing is they think we were "indoctrinated" with racist old fashioned views.

That's we call them "woke". In their heads they think they've been enlightened and its everyone else who is indoctrinated, part of this system of racism. I love when people wake to their wokeness and realized they've been lied to. But it's not likely with the generational wokeness people have in progressive states.
 

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Aidsman comes from a long line of Marxist morons evidently, LULZ @ him and his family of anally birthed libfags.

Many were. Their parents are the same and taught them this as well as proggy schools and then university. Left wing academia is where these...."ideas" came from.

I had a group of friends in middle/high school. Thanks to Facebook.... I'm still connected with them. They are all still friends. All went to uni after highschool(all from wealthier families)....all are progressive today. They were all from priviledged families.

One of them....who was one of my best friends....is so progressive he lives in NY and works at Huffpost lol. The sad thing is they think we were "indoctrinated" with racist old fashioned views.

That's we call them "woke". In their heads they think they've been enlightened and its everyone else who is indoctrinated, part of this system of racism. I love when people wake to their wokeness and realized they've been lied to. But it's not likely with the generational wokeness people have in progressive states.
Woke just sounds like eyes wired shut in the real sense! Just a different era really! Lolololol
 

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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

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You have to do controlled burns... cold burns. That means surround a small area with firemen and burn it off. Once the fuel load has burnt down, then you put out the fire and move to another section... You have to do this either, at Spring time or in Autumn.

that's the abo way. It's saves animals and other biodiversity.
 

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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

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You have to do controlled burns... cold burns. That means surround a small area with firemen and burn it off. Once the fuel load has burnt down, then you put out the fire and move to another section... You have to do this either, at Spring time or in Autumn.

that's the abo way. It's saves animals and other biodiversity.

The concerning thing it is they live in states with wilderness and when people point out forrest management is needed they scoff.

Like the raking. I dont know HOW....but they think people mean like...hand held rakes. They literally think we are saying grab a rake and go rake up the woods. And its unacceptable that they live in states with forrests....and think we mean hand held rakes. They should know better.

Forrest management equipment exists and they should know that.



So they have no idea what is meant when we say raking forrests and controlled burns. They think we are saying grab a rake and get busy. So they mock us for this.....which is ironic AF.

I think they are interested in the wild fires only because of its use in the political climate change arguments and for the policies. Not because they want to solve the problem. The fires happen because of bad forrest management and people are already paying high taxes....so why give the government more when they dont even use what they get for basic and effective forrest management.

Of course it makes their green policies suspicious and undesirable. They cant even solve this problem or be honest about it.
 
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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

#freebrittanytoo


You have to do controlled burns... cold burns. That means surround a small area with firemen and burn it off. Once the fuel load has burnt down, then you put out the fire and move to another section... You have to do this either, at Spring time or in Autumn.

that's the abo way. It's saves animals and other biodiversity.

The concerning thing it is they live in states with wilderness and when people point out forrest management is needed they scoff.

Like the raking. I dont know HOW....but they think people mean like...hand held rakes. They literally think we are saying grab a rake and go rake up the woods. And its unacceptable that they live in states with forrests....and think we mean hand held rakes. They should know better.

Forrest management equipped exists and they should know that.



So they have no idea what is meant when we say raking forrests and controlled burns. They think we are saying grab a rake and get busy. So they mock us for this.....which is ironic AF.

I think they are interested in the wild fires only because of its use in the political climate change arguments and for the policies. Not because they want to solve the problem.

Who cares? it's only Cali and Oregon that burn down anyways

I'm perfectly fine with that
 

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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

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You have to do controlled burns... cold burns. That means surround a small area with firemen and burn it off. Once the fuel load has burnt down, then you put out the fire and move to another section... You have to do this either, at Spring time or in Autumn.

that's the abo way. It's saves animals and other biodiversity.

The concerning thing it is they live in states with wilderness and when people point out forrest management is needed they scoff.

Like the raking. I dont know HOW....but they think people mean like...hand held rakes. They literally think we are saying grab a rake and go rake up the woods. And its unacceptable that they live in states with forrests....and think we mean hand held rakes. They should know better.

Forrest management equipped exists and they should know that.



So they have no idea what is meant when we say raking forrests and controlled burns. They think we are saying grab a rake and get busy. So they mock us for this.....which is ironic AF.

I think they are interested in the wild fires only because of its use in the political climate change arguments and for the policies. Not because they want to solve the problem.

Who cares? it's only Cali and Oregon that burn down anyways

I'm perfectly fine with that


Sad that all that beautiful nature gets destroyed. Other than that....agreed.
 

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As a 4th Generation Oregonian, I am ashamed that todays native sons of the best state in the world are too darn lazy to get out in our hedge fund owned woods, and keep them raked clean. Defund the department of the interior and sell the woods to wall street!

#freebrittanytoo


You have to do controlled burns... cold burns. That means surround a small area with firemen and burn it off. Once the fuel load has burnt down, then you put out the fire and move to another section... You have to do this either, at Spring time or in Autumn.

that's the abo way. It's saves animals and other biodiversity.

The concerning thing it is they live in states with wilderness and when people point out forrest management is needed they scoff.

Like the raking. I dont know HOW....but they think people mean like...hand held rakes. They literally think we are saying grab a rake and go rake up the woods. And its unacceptable that they live in states with forrests....and think we mean hand held rakes. They should know better.

Forrest management equipped exists and they should know that.



So they have no idea what is meant when we say raking forrests and controlled burns. They think we are saying grab a rake and get busy. So they mock us for this.....which is ironic AF.

I think they are interested in the wild fires only because of its use in the political climate change arguments and for the policies. Not because they want to solve the problem.

Who cares? it's only Cali and Oregon that burn down anyways

I'm perfectly fine with that


Sad that all that beautiful nature gets destroyed. Other than that....agreed.

eh.. Forrest fires been happening for thousands of years and they'll continue to happen for thousands more. And if they purge a bunch of libs along the way so much the better
 

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Okay......are you saying God is with the GOP?

What's political here?

The fact that most cons deny climate change, so any mention of it sends them into a whirlwind of hysteria and cuckedness. You didn't know that?

"Cons" dont deny climate change. Leftists claim "cons" deny climate change.

People "deny" the political narrative surrounding climate change. Big difference.

Bullshit. I can't count the number of times CONs have said, and I quote, "Climate change doesn't exist."

They are saying the political narrative of climate change is bullshit. That's the position.

No says the climate isn't changing. People just dont believe the world is gonna end in 15 years unless we pass expensive progressive policies.
 

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The UNDERSTORY which is what a forest ground is has another biodiversity that is as EXETREMELY important as animal life anywhere. There are animals, insects, reptiles, Birds, living in the understory.

If they burn off SMALL sections, when there is a forest fire, the animals can go to the area that had a controlled burn, that's the theory anyway.

It's a dilemma.

It's got nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with fire bugs....imho.
 

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eh.. Forrest fires been happening for thousands of years and they'll continue to happen for thousands more. And if they purge a bunch of libs along the way so much the better

Lightning starts fires BUT in the old days, lightning also meant rain followed putting out the fires but these days, you can get electrical storms and no rain... that is super bad trouble.

I bet some dude was using an angle grinder and started the fire or kids playing with lighters... who knows? Someone started it, trust me on that one!~

Controlled burns are my bug bear because we OVER do it in WA... I actually run around behind the fire brigade photographing the fucks abusing the bush... They are doing it WRONG and destroying WA biodiversity.





 

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Fucking bastards kill the trees, they fall over and then it gives them another EXCUSE to burn off.

Before the black Cockatoos can nest, a tree has to be 100 yrs old to develop holes for their nesting.

These Eucalypts are small baby trees...



This tree is about 150 years old...