Manchin is jumping ship libs...

[deport_liberals]

No party discipline means no 4 trillion gibsmedat for you...lol.

Let's go Brandon!!

 

[Lokmar]

I've got mixed feelings on this. It was good to see a few reasonable people remain in the DNC. If he jumps ship, he's really no more reliable than an Arlen Spector and he was a shithead for sure!

 

[Oerdin]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

 

[deport_liberals]

Why isn't Brandon pwning Manchin every day out here the way TRUMP pwned Romney and azzraped McStains gimpy corpse?????

Your leader is a wuss libs!!@

 

[LotusBud]

Brandon?

 

[Joe]

No party discipline means no 4 trillion gibsmedat for you...lol.

Let's go Brandon!!

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[Lokmar]

Brandon?

idiot.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

haw haw

 

[Joe]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

 

[Lokmar]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

I think it's more fun to watch him shit on their agenda as a democrat than as a republican

they seem to cry even harder this way

 

[Joe]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

The Progressive wing of the Democratic Party is asking for too much and they should scale back their demands.

Manchin is making a reasonable request.

If they can settle for $2 trillion it would be more acceptable.

 

[Oerdin]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

I think it's more fun to watch him shit on their agenda as a democrat than as a republican

they seem to cry even harder this way

Here is the thing, the guy has always been a center right moderate in a state which is deeply conservative. Democrats want to shit on him because he won't give a blank check to the far left but that ignores the reality that the Senate is 50-50 and at least two Dem Senators know their careers in politics are over if they go along with the extreme left's demands. The extreme left were always retards on that front.

There is no meaningful extreme left in West Virginia. So their threats about "do what the extreme far left wants or we will run negative campaign ads against you" holds no water when 80% of the population would become more willing to vote for him because the extreme left dislikes him. This is basic politics.

 

[Joe]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

I think it's more fun to watch him shit on their agenda as a democrat than as a republican

they seem to cry even harder this way

Here is the thing, the guy has always been a center right moderate in a state which is deeply conservative. Democrats want to shit on him because he won't give a blank check to the far left but that ignores the reality that the Senate is 50-50 and at least two Dem Senators know their careers in politics are over if they go along with the extreme left's demands. The extreme left were always retards on that front.

There is no meaningful extreme left in West Virginia. So their threats about "do what the extreme far left wants or we will run negative campaign ads against you" holds no water when 80% of the population would become more willing to vote for him because the extreme left dislikes him. This is basic politics.

The democratic left is asking too much.

Especially since the bill would overwhelmingly benefit blue states over red.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

I think it's more fun to watch him shit on their agenda as a democrat than as a republican

they seem to cry even harder this way

Here is the thing, the guy has always been a center right moderate in a state which is deeply conservative. Democrats want to shit on him because he won't give a blank check to the far left but that ignores the reality that the Senate is 50-50 and at least two Dem Senators know their careers in politics are over if they go along with the extreme left's demands. The extreme left were always retards on that front.

There is no meaningful extreme left in West Virginia. So their threats about "do what the extreme far left wants or we will run negative campaign ads against you" holds no water when 80% of the population would become more willing to vote for him because the extreme left dislikes him. This is basic politics.

so basically shit head libs are stuck between a rock and a hard place

loving it

 

[Oerdin]

Nancy Pelosi, far from being the "master tactician" democrat media has claimed has been a serious fuck up for a long time. The Dems lost seats every election from 2014 to 2020 except 2018 where they barely pulled off a gain. This whole legislative shit show has been a complete over reach and disaster for the Dems. They had a 50-50 Senate but wanted to pretend they had a 70-30 Senate with the pork packed, unrealistic garbage, and one sided nonsense. It was always doomed to fail as they never tried anything remotely centrist or bipartisan.

 

[Joe]

Nancy Pelosi, far from being the "master tactician" democrat media has claimed has been a serious fuck up for a long time. The Dems lost seats every election from 2014 to 2020 except 2018 where they barely pulled off a gain. This whole legislative shit show has been a complete over reach and disaster for the Dems. They had a 50-50 Senate but wanted to pretend they had a 70-30 Senate with the pork packed, unrealistic garbage, and one sided nonsense. It was always doomed to fail as they never tried anything remotely centrist or bipartisan.

She seems like a weak House leader.

ie that Trump impeachment over the russia influencing the election.

The only thing that saved the Democrats last time was the Pandemic.

I think she needs to be replaced.

She's gettin old anyways.

 

[Oerdin]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

The Progressive wing of the Democratic Party is asking for too much and they should scale back their demands.

Manchin is making a reasonable request.

If they can settle for $2 trillion it would be more acceptable.

There $2 trillion is still more like $3.5 because of the accounting games. They want all the welfare expansion to only take effect 8 years into a 10 year cycle so they can lie and claim it is not that costly. But, these are permanent expansions of welfare which will happen every year when they do take effect so the true cost is trillions of permanent structural costs which never go away. Accounting gimmicks just won't cut it.

Also, in a worker shortage, why expand welfare to discourage people from getting jobs? Cut welfare and make the welfare bums get off their asses and finally start working.

 

[Joe]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

The Progressive wing of the Democratic Party is asking for too much and they should scale back their demands.

Manchin is making a reasonable request.

If they can settle for $2 trillion it would be more acceptable.

There $2 trillion is still more like $3.5 because of the accounting games. They want all the welfare expansion to only take effect 8 years into a 10 year cycle so they can lie and claim it is not that costly. But, these are permanent expansions of welfare which will happen every year when they do take effect so the true cost is trillions of permanent structural costs which never go away. Accounting gimmicks just won't cut it.

Also, in a worker shortage, why expand welfare to discourage people from getting jobs? Cut welfare and make the welfare bums get off their asses and finally start working.

everything costs more than initially planned.

I think you're right.

I see it in my country too.

Whenever the guv announces a program or project, if they say it'll cost 3 bil it costs 6 bil.

canada's actually worse for cost overruns than the USA.

At least people in the States get upset about government cost overruns and delays.

 

[Oerdin]

Nancy Pelosi, far from being the "master tactician" democrat media has claimed has been a serious fuck up for a long time. The Dems lost seats every election from 2014 to 2020 except 2018 where they barely pulled off a gain. This whole legislative shit show has been a complete over reach and disaster for the Dems. They had a 50-50 Senate but wanted to pretend they had a 70-30 Senate with the pork packed, unrealistic garbage, and one sided nonsense. It was always doomed to fail as they never tried anything remotely centrist or bipartisan.

She seems like a weak House leader.

ie that Trump impeachment over the russia influencing the election.

The only thing that saved the Democrats last time was the Pandemic.

I think she needs to be replaced.

She's gettin old anyways.

She is... What? 82? A heavy drinker to boot and about as popular outside San Francisco as dog shit? Even in San Francisco we are talking about a population who thinks homeless drug zombies every where, shit and needles on every street, stores forced to close because black gangs are stealing $20,000-$50,000 a day, and record murder rates is... Ok? How out of touch are those fools?

 

[Joe]

Nancy Pelosi, far from being the "master tactician" democrat media has claimed has been a serious fuck up for a long time. The Dems lost seats every election from 2014 to 2020 except 2018 where they barely pulled off a gain. This whole legislative shit show has been a complete over reach and disaster for the Dems. They had a 50-50 Senate but wanted to pretend they had a 70-30 Senate with the pork packed, unrealistic garbage, and one sided nonsense. It was always doomed to fail as they never tried anything remotely centrist or bipartisan.

She seems like a weak House leader.

ie that Trump impeachment over the russia influencing the election.

The only thing that saved the Democrats last time was the Pandemic.

I think she needs to be replaced.

She's gettin old anyways.

She is... What? 82? A heavy drinker to boot and about as popular outside San Francisco as dog shit? Even in San Francisco we are talking about a population who thinks homeless drug zombies every where, shit and needles on every street, stores forced to close because black gangs are stealing $20,000-$50,000 a day, and record murder rates is... Ok? How out of touch are those fools?

82? Well she's way too old.

Worse than Biden but at least she's got er marbles.

too many old biddies hangin' in the Democratic Party.

Hopefully they'll have enough common sense to clean house by next election before they die out like the dinosaurs

Cripes I was surprised that diane Feinstein is still a senator and she's almost 90.

 

[Oerdin]

The Senate is evenly split which means Democrats can't afford to lose a single vote yet they are insisting on a massive far left spending binge that was never paid for to begin with. The Dem senators from rwd states know they are politically dead if the vote for that so it really shouldn't happen because their constituents don't want it to happen.

Bernie can keep whining that 52 vote against "unfairly" out votes 48 for but he has never been good at basic math.

They'll probably end up making concessions to retain Manchin.

I hope so, manchin needs to be replaced by an ACTUAL Republican.

The Progressive wing of the Democratic Party is asking for too much and they should scale back their demands.

Manchin is making a reasonable request.

If they can settle for $2 trillion it would be more acceptable.

There $2 trillion is still more like $3.5 because of the accounting games. They want all the welfare expansion to only take effect 8 years into a 10 year cycle so they can lie and claim it is not that costly. But, these are permanent expansions of welfare which will happen every year when they do take effect so the true cost is trillions of permanent structural costs which never go away. Accounting gimmicks just won't cut it.

Also, in a worker shortage, why expand welfare to discourage people from getting jobs? Cut welfare and make the welfare bums get off their asses and finally start working.

everything costs more than initially planned.

I think you're right.

I see it in my country too.

Whenever the guv announces a program or project, if they say it'll cost 3 bil it costs 6 bil.

canada's actually worse for cost overruns than the USA.

At least people in the States get upset about government cost overruns and delays.

It is not "well, it cost more than initially planned". It is "let us lie and play accounting games to hide 4/5ths of the cost so we can falsely claim the costs are lower and some how everything is paid for even though we all know that is horse shit."

That is just how stupid they think the average American is. The sad part is they often are right.

 

[Blurt]

CNN Breaking News

Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger Leave Republican Party, Join Democrats

 

[Oerdin]

I am resigned to the fact that Dems will eventually force them to vote for something even if it is "only" $2 trillion (really $3 trillion) causing inflation to soar more. Money printer goes "brrrrr".

And everyone holding U.S. dollars loses.

 

[Lokmar]

CNN Breaking News

Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger Leave Republican Party, Join Democrats

DAMN! Dont fukin tease me like that! I almost fapped!!!!!

 

[Blurt]

Ew! Ick! A fapping Lokmar!

 

[Joe]

I am resigned to the fact that Dems will eventually force them to vote for something even if it is "only" $2 trillion (really $3 trillion) causing inflation to soar more. Money printer goes "brrrrr".

And everyone holding U.S. dollars loses.

Happening all around the world tho,

Not just the USA.

Governments are overspending everywhere and are massively in debt.

There's a crisis brewing in China with that Evergrande fiasco

 

[Lokmar]

Ew! Ick! A fapping Lokmar!

You wanna suck on the after jizz, dummy?

 

[Lily]

Ew! Ick! A fapping Lokmar!

So gross!

 

[Blurt]

Ew! Ick! A fapping Lokmar!

You wanna suck on the after jizz, dummy?

Wait. You keep an after jizz dummy on hand?

Incel.