"Political Power Comes out of the Barrel of a Gun"

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....guess who said it folks?

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...the irony of it is all the NRA types in this forum are alarmed by the rise of 'left wing fascism' when they endorse the same thing themselves.

Love of the Gun to empower themselves.

"Gotta go to the gun store to load up on more ammo!"
 

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Public Protest. Strikes, work very well in this country. Very few have guns.
 

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....guess who said it folks?

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...the irony of it is all the NRA types in this forum are alarmed by the rise of 'left wing fascism' when they endorse the same thing themselves.

Love of the Gun to empower themselves.

"Gotta go to the gun store to load up on more ammo!"

Yeah Joe. When the fucking government is the only one that can use them.

How the fuck is allowing individuals in the country use their own rights "fascists"? You've lost it on this one.

Literally claiming defending the Constitution is fascism.

Fascism is when you take guns from the people, control WHO can be armed, and centralize all institutional power. So yeah.....left wing fascism IS the problem.

If you are trying to argue that we are fascists for wanting human and Constitutional rights upheld and defended as our Forefathers fought for? I recommend you put down media and pick up some Orwell.

And if you found Moas red army problematic.....you shouldnt be so laissez faire about blm/antifa. Openly marxist political street thugs with guns destroying communities and beating and murdering innocent people.

Gross wont be charged for crossing state lines with an illegal gun......but you want Kyle to be punished for having a gun when he was within the law and would have been killed by the reboot of Moas communist revolution army of criminals if he didnt.

Again.....if you are offended by violence in the streets of America and dont want people harming themselves to DEFEND their communities, oppose the gotdamn riots.

Stop pretending you can sell blatant oppression as some form of freedom. Tying the hands of the people and stripping their rights is exactly what authoritarian movements DO. If you didnt likr Maos revolution, you have no business sympathizing with communist homegrown terrorists on American soil who are demanding to commit acts of political violence against innocent people unfettered.
 
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Defending human and constitutional rights was seen as "wing nut" shit to Mao as well. All those anti Constitution dictators hated America because we are a country of rights and liberty.

Only his revolutionaries had guns and people were executed for standing up to them too

Let's see that fist in the air, right? Mao did it first.

"Well if we go letting regular Americans defend themselves against marxist anti capitalist mobs who are forcing political violence on them....we WONT be doing exactly what Mao did. So we must strip rights from the regular people and force them to accept violence like Mao did.

But let's accuse small government "wing nuts" who want American constitutional rights upheld of being like Mao while we literally walk in Maos foot steps..yeah. They might buy that!"
 
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Here is some context for that quote. And it's pretty much why Gross and all those marxist rioters never get charged with having guns illegally.

Of course, we know Mao didnt want the peasents to have guns....just his revolutionaries and his government. That's what he meant. He wanted JUST his revolutionaries to be armed. You know just like how the marxists mobs are demanding to be the only ones with guns by demonizing regular people for using their own constitutional rights.

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"As demonstrated by the following quotations, Mao believed that violence and support from the masses were necessary for the achievement of a peaceful communist order. One of the most critical challenges faced by Mao in this regard was establishing strong military support for the revolution while simultaneously preventing the armed forces from becoming too powerful. Mao's concerns are reflected in the last two quotations; while arguing that political power cannot be achieved without resorting to the use of force, ("Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" — the gun being a metaphor for the military), Mao also believed that the party must always remain in ultimate political control of the nation in order for peace and prosperity to be achieved ("...the gun must never be allowed to command the Party")."

And this kind of shit.

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In a piece titled, “China and the US were both born from armed conflict. They're now polar opposites on gun control,” a pair of CNN writers favorably contrasted the totalitarian Chinese government’s gun control regime with U.S. freedom.

The outlet boasted of “how rare gun crime is in China – in contrast to it being a daily reality in the US.” Touting China’s near-total civilian disarmament, CNN’s writers claimed, “The difference is stark when it comes to public safety. Despite being the world's most populous country, with 1.4 billion residents, China only records a few dozen gun crimes a year.”"

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Of course the article can be vetted and readers can see it for themselves.

The dems/progs do not want regular Americans to have guns or to be able to use them in self defense from their state protected violent mobs. They are fine having police stand down while mobs destroy and attack communities and to use this violence for political influence. They want Americans too afraid to use our rights.

Make no mistake.....that's how real fascists authoritarians function. They tell you these are mostly peaceful protests and viscious and mercilessly go after anyone who dares protect themselves.

We saw it with the Mclowskis(?) and we see it with Kyle.

You dont hear ANY media hysterics or see trials being had when this mob murders innocent people. You dont see anything when they brutally beat people. They intentionally ignore it to push this propaganda.



So basically at this point, the framing is everything. You could have a completely centrist stance on a major issue.....and dems/progs have gone so far off the mark from basic American values that your centrist stance will be labeled "right wing" and be told you are bias for it.

Like this. If you dont want a person who did NOT break a single law convicted of some crime, its political bias. It's absolutely absurd. Do you value the liberal order? Do you value human and constitutional rights? A basic American stance that EVERYONE should agree on? Well they've done gone so far off the edge that basic American stance is seen as politics. The constitution should be the foundation of everyones political positions and now its labeled as some fringe, wing nut thing.

A woman who lived through Maos revolution speaks about leftwing/SJW ideology and how it's the same ideology used by Mao. And of course she is called "right wing bias" because that's part of the psychological warfare used against anyone who criticizes them and supports Americas basic values.



Its completely absurd to see someone who is arguing for a person who committed NO crime, for someone who operated within the law and used his rights against violent political thugs who attacked him....be convicted for some "interest of the nation" reason.....try to make an argument that OTHERS are operating like authoritarians. Talk about projection and irony. Arbitrary imprisonment/law enforcement justified by "the interest of the country" is exactly what Mao was about. Anyone not in line was labeled a "counter revolutionary" (just like anyone not in line with dem/prog narratives is labeled a right wingnut/extremist/white supremacist....anything demonizing) and gone after.

Sound familiar? It should.
 
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Arbitrary or unlawful detention occurs when an individual is arrested and detained by a government without due process and without the legal protections of a fair trial, or when an individual is detained without any legal basis for the deprivation of liberty.

Arbitrary arrests and detention are intimidation tactics used by governments to suppress dissent. Freedom from arbitrary detention is a fundamental right enshrined in Article 9 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Yet governments in countries like Egypt, Syria, and China are notorious for crackdowns on civilians and arbitrarily detaining them."

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Convicting and punishing a citizen when there is NO legal basis and they have broken no laws is a fucking HORRID precedent and it's a human rights violation.

And that fact that opposition to arbitrary imprisonment is being labeled "political" is just stunning.

Joe I hope you really hope you are able to think much harder and deeper on this. It couldnt LESS in the interest of the country to convict any person when they have committed NO crimes. That's authoritarian madness.
 

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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
 

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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(
 
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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(

I thought that judge showed excessive bias and favoritism towards Kyle Rittenhouse.
 

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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(

I thought that judge showed excessive bias and favoritism towards Kyle Rittenhouse.
Of course you do.. because the outcome wasn't what you wanted .. lol. FYI This judge was appointed by a Democrat governor..
 
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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(

I thought that judge showed excessive bias and favoritism towards Kyle Rittenhouse.
Of course you do.. because the outcome wasn't what you wanted .. lol. FYI This judge was appointed by a Democrat governor..

Ie - the judge allowed a semiautomatic rifle to be classified as a 'long rifle'. The same kind of weapon which was responsible for a mass shooting that left 16 dead in Canada and 50 dead in New Zealand.

An MR 15 is not a typical hunting rifle.

If I understand correctly hunters don't take them on hunting trips otherwise they'd blast an animal/trophy their seeking to shreds.

That was a deliberate misinterpretation of the law to favor Rittenhouse and get him off easily as possible.

Yes that is a clear example of judicial bias where a judge wanted to get somebody off the hook at the expense of public safety and the greater good.
 

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shoot the mutherfuckerZ with a SKATEBOARD !! i yi yiiiIIII

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So X.....do you think the fact that's it legal to shoot someone attacking you with a skateboard means that it's okay to shoot anyone with a skateboard?

Because it's either you are being dishonest and completely understand that getting attacked with a skateboard is very dangerous and fatal and it's okay to shoot someone who trying to kill you......or you are completely insane and dont understand what assault is.

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And the guy not only attacked him with a skate board but tried to grab his gun.
 

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....guess who said it folks?

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...the irony of it is all the NRA types in this forum are alarmed by the rise of 'left wing fascism' when they endorse the same thing themselves.

Love of the Gun to empower themselves.

"Gotta go to the gun store to load up on more ammo!"
Dumb ass, the American Founders knew this so we got the 2nd Amendment.
 

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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(

I thought that judge showed excessive bias and favoritism towards Kyle Rittenhouse.
Of course you do.. because the outcome wasn't what you wanted .. lol. FYI This judge was appointed by a Democrat governor..

Ie - the judge allowed a semiautomatic rifle to be classified as a 'long rifle'. The same kind of weapon which was responsible for a mass shooting that left 16 dead in Canada and 50 dead in New Zealand.

An MR 15 is not a typical hunting rifle.

If I understand correctly hunters don't take them on hunting trips otherwise they'd blast an animal/trophy their seeking to shreds.

That was a deliberate misinterpretation of the law to favor Rittenhouse and get him off easily as possible.

Yes that is a clear example of judicial bias where a judge wanted to get somebody off the hook at the expense of public safety and the greater good.

You stupid assed uneducated faggit. The typical round I fire through my AR-15 is a .22 caliber 223 cartridge that moves about 2800 fps through my AR-15's barrel and is useful out to about 300-500 yards. My bolt action 300 Winchester Magnum puts a .30 caliber round out to 1000 yards and leaves the barrel at 3200 fps. My stepdad shot deer with his 300 Win Mag all the fukin time. If Grosskreutz had been shot with my 300 win mag in the arm, his arm wouldnt ever fukin work again.

Stupid fuk.
 

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I love the very RARE Democrats that STILL value the human and constitutional RIGHTS of the people. All of us should be able to agree on this and its fucking SCARY this was even a trial.
I agree Dovey... The facts and evidence are all there, but people choose to ignore it because of politics :'( I know IN MY HEART.. if this had been a lefty in Kyles place.. I would STILL agree that this was self-defense. It is just a clear case.. I also would have a problem with right-wing protests that burned cities to the ground.. I would NOT ignore that.. Unbelievable that people can't view this from a HUMAN perspective :'(

Exactly. They cant even be objective enough to see humanity anymore. That's what I've been saying.

The amount of hatred and disregard they have for innocent people.....because of their politics...is terrifying. Legitimate radicalized enemies of regular Americans.

Never mind Kyle was there giving medical aid mostly to rioters and just helping protect his own community. Because a total psycho was released from a psych unit (who has a history of raping children) and wandered there because he couldnt go to his girlfriend's, he wasnt even a "protester"....just a random child rapist psycho who was threatening to kill people.

They turn on Kyle and claim THIS piece of shit. And then Kyle was turned into some symbol of "the right".....the kid wasnt even political. He wasnt even old enough to vote.

They are insane. Fucking demon possessed. They are never going to realize this amount of hate, supporting actual terrorist attacks on innocent people.....isnt normal. It's not even warranted. They've been propagandized. And worse I think many of them enjoy the hate and dont want to stop. They would rather literally see the country burn and our rights gone.
 
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Sadly Joe is one of those people who thinks the blame is on victims.

That if people get attacked it's on them to not make it worse by fighting back or defending himself. One of those who is bias towards aggressors and thinks the responsibility for the assault goes both ways evenly.

The people who will say a woman should just lay still if shes getting raped or assaulted. That she shouldnt have let herself be targeted.

This mentality enrages me. Not only do I not care if aggressors get harmed or killed......I prefer it. And I'm not entertaining this ridiculous idea that blame goes both ways when there are clear attackers.

If people want to march up doing their destructive mob shit in peoples homes, the people have rights. Every single right to protect and defend their communities and lives. And you gotta be sick in the head and heartless to think otherwise.

This isnt about politics. It's about human beings. There is clear right and wrong. No one gets to brutalize and murder innocent people "safely" and nothing justifies doing so. It's not a valid "side" in some dispute.

And Joe quoting Mao in the context of OUR rights to self defense.....when these mobs are actual tyrannical marxist communists revolutionaries....is the worst thing I've seen in these arguments. Mao's ideology is alive and well in these woke mobs and they show up with guns illegally....but it's the innocent people whose rights must be stripped and who should be sacrificed to political violence.