VIRGINIA!!!!
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
VIRGINIA!!!!
So many other things to worry about.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
Because their ancestors were slaves and the weight of history lands on their shoulders. And maybe if we want great communities, we need to build community first.
You have another flag available that might be used by all Americans. Why not choose it? The one that represents all Americans and not just some?
I don't get that, I really don't.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That Flag, the Bars & Stars doesn't bother me at all.
Mind you, my ancestors weren't slaves either, so maybe they see it a bit differently.
I'm just inclined to see it as a piece of History, nothing more.
BTW, the French in Quebec have a flag similar in Spirit to the Dixie Flag:
It was derived form the pre-revolutionary Monarchy of the French Kings:
It is considered an integral part of French Canadian identity.
However, unlike the US South, slavery was never abolished in New France.
In fact, it existed into the early part of the 19th century tho it was waning as an institution by then even after the English conquered New France - which is modern day Quebec.
It was the British who finally did away with slavery there and the French were more than eager to hang onto their slaves.
so a person could advance a similar argument, that the current Flag of Quebec represents Slavery and should also be torn down.
You could find oppression in any every national symbol, flag and go woke about it.
...and the Great Taj mahal in India? Don't forget, that was built with Slave Labor.
so were the pyramids of Egypt. Egyptians have told me that their slave ancestors built those tings.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That Flag, the Bars & Stars doesn't bother me at all.
Mind you, my ancestors weren't slaves either, so maybe they see it a bit differently.
I'm just inclined to see it as a piece of History, nothing more.
BTW, the French in Quebec have a flag similar in Spirit to the Dixie Flag:
It was derived form the pre-revolutionary Monarchy of the French Kings:
It is considered an integral part of French Canadian identity.
However, unlike the US South, slavery was never abolished in New France.
In fact, it existed into the early part of the 19th century tho it was waning as an institution by then.
Still, you could advance a similar argument, that the current Flag of Quebec represents Slavery and should also be torn down.
You could find oppression in any every national symbol, flag and go woke about it.
...and the Great Taj mahal in India? Don't forget, that was built with Slave Labor.
so were the pyramids of Egypt. Egyptians have told me that their slave ancestors built those tings.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
Because their ancestors were slaves and the weight of history lands on their shoulders. And maybe if we want great communities, we need to build community first.
You have another flag available that might be used by all Americans. Why not choose it? The one that represents all Americans and not just some?
I don't get that, I really don't.
I see that you dont get it, its ok, Im here to educate you
The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, that most folks like yourself like to call the Confederate Flag, only flew for 4 years if that. It was adopted from the Tennessee Battle Flag. Mostly because the original Confederate Flag looked too much like the actual American Flag.
Anyway, it only flew for 4 years. Slavery was around much longer before that. Slaves arrived in Yankee ports, and were sold to the South. If anything, I would think more folks would be angry about THAT flag, instead of one that flew for 4 years.
Martin Luther King Jr., even said himself not to tear down monuments and flags. To leave them alone if we wanted to come together, or else it would cause division.
To a lot us, and I mean a LOT of us, that flag has nothing to do with slavery one bit. It has to do with our ancestors fighting for their families, lives and homeland.
If you check out my history thread, I recently pointed out how that war wasnt even started over freeing the slaves.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That Flag, the Bars & Stars doesn't bother me at all.
Mind you, my ancestors weren't slaves either, so maybe they see it a bit differently.
I'm just inclined to see it as a piece of History, nothing more.
BTW, the French in Quebec have a flag similar in Spirit to the Dixie Flag:
It was derived form the pre-revolutionary Monarchy of the French Kings:
It is considered an integral part of French Canadian identity.
However, unlike the US South, slavery was never abolished in New France.
In fact, it existed into the early part of the 19th century tho it was waning as an institution by then.
Still, you could advance a similar argument, that the current Flag of Quebec represents Slavery and should also be torn down.
You could find oppression in any every national symbol, flag and go woke about it.
...and the Great Taj mahal in India? Don't forget, that was built with Slave Labor.
so were the pyramids of Egypt. Egyptians have told me that their slave ancestors built those tings.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
Because their ancestors were slaves and the weight of history lands on their shoulders. And maybe if we want great communities, we need to build community first.
You have another flag available that might be used by all Americans. Why not choose it? The one that represents all Americans and not just some?
I don't get that, I really don't.
I see that you dont get it, its ok, Im here to educate you
The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, that most folks like yourself like to call the Confederate Flag, only flew for 4 years if that. It was adopted from the Tennessee Battle Flag. Mostly because the original Confederate Flag looked too much like the actual American Flag.
Anyway, it only flew for 4 years. Slavery was around much longer before that. Slaves arrived in Yankee ports, and were sold to the South. If anything, I would think more folks would be angry about THAT flag, instead of one that flew for 4 years.
Martin Luther King Jr., even said himself not to tear down monuments and flags. To leave them alone if we wanted to come together, or else it would cause division.
To a lot us, and I mean a LOT of us, that flag has nothing to do with slavery one bit. It has to do with our ancestors fighting for their families, lives and homeland.
If you check out my history thread, I recently pointed out how that war wasnt even started over freeing the slaves.
I am not able to get you to see another point of view and vice-versa. Oh well.
However, the American flag that I fly for specific holidays and remembrances doesn't hurt anyone that's a patriot.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That Flag, the Bars & Stars doesn't bother me at all.
Mind you, my ancestors weren't slaves either, so maybe they see it a bit differently.
I'm just inclined to see it as a piece of History, nothing more.
BTW, the French in Quebec have a flag similar in Spirit to the Dixie Flag:
It was derived form the pre-revolutionary Monarchy of the French Kings:
It is considered an integral part of French Canadian identity.
However, unlike the US South, slavery was never abolished in New France.
In fact, it existed into the early part of the 19th century tho it was waning as an institution by then.
Still, you could advance a similar argument, that the current Flag of Quebec represents Slavery and should also be torn down.
You could find oppression in any every national symbol, flag and go woke about it.
...and the Great Taj mahal in India? Don't forget, that was built with Slave Labor.
so were the pyramids of Egypt. Egyptians have told me that their slave ancestors built those tings.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
Because their ancestors were slaves and the weight of history lands on their shoulders. And maybe if we want great communities, we need to build community first.
You have another flag available that might be used by all Americans. Why not choose it? The one that represents all Americans and not just some?
I don't get that, I really don't.
I see that you dont get it, its ok, Im here to educate you
The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, that most folks like yourself like to call the Confederate Flag, only flew for 4 years if that. It was adopted from the Tennessee Battle Flag. Mostly because the original Confederate Flag looked too much like the actual American Flag.
Anyway, it only flew for 4 years. Slavery was around much longer before that. Slaves arrived in Yankee ports, and were sold to the South. If anything, I would think more folks would be angry about THAT flag, instead of one that flew for 4 years.
Martin Luther King Jr., even said himself not to tear down monuments and flags. To leave them alone if we wanted to come together, or else it would cause division.
To a lot us, and I mean a LOT of us, that flag has nothing to do with slavery one bit. It has to do with our ancestors fighting for their families, lives and homeland.
If you check out my history thread, I recently pointed out how that war wasnt even started over freeing the slaves.
I am not able to get you to see another point of view and vice-versa. Oh well.
However, the American flag that I fly for specific holidays and remembrances doesn't hurt anyone that's a patriot.
Oh, I see the other point of view, but I also know it was orchestrated to make them feel that way by the Media Masters. Thus, I would rather my point of view be seen too, since its the one thats the most censored.
Yes, except yours was the flag of slavery and is the flag of despotism.
My flag is MORE Patriotic!
:Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy:
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
That Flag, the Bars & Stars doesn't bother me at all.
Mind you, my ancestors weren't slaves either, so maybe they see it a bit differently.
I'm just inclined to see it as a piece of History, nothing more.
BTW, the French in Quebec have a flag similar in Spirit to the Dixie Flag:
It was derived form the pre-revolutionary Monarchy of the French Kings:
It is considered an integral part of French Canadian identity.
However, unlike the US South, slavery was never abolished in New France.
In fact, it existed into the early part of the 19th century tho it was waning as an institution by then.
Still, you could advance a similar argument, that the current Flag of Quebec represents Slavery and should also be torn down.
You could find oppression in any every national symbol, flag and go woke about it.
...and the Great Taj mahal in India? Don't forget, that was built with Slave Labor.
so were the pyramids of Egypt. Egyptians have told me that their slave ancestors built those tings.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
I have nothing else to add to that. It's brief and to the point.
Well, since you have nothing to add, I'll simply say read what I wrote to Lotus.
A lot of us are good people. You've told me of some past stuff, and I just wanted to show you some proof that a lot of us were raised right.
I'm not sure what you mean by "You've told me of some past stuff."
That flag continues to cause a lot of pain to a lot of folks. You have all the rights under the 1st amendment to fly it. I can't quibble with that.
But what of common decency and respect for those people that it does hurt?
You told me about "Southerners" being mean to you or some shit long ago. Prolly just a group of assholes.
That flag means a lot of things to a lot people. Why cant those with hate towards it, not have some understanding that "hey! This guy might be a good guy!".
Sure, there are some hateful groups that fly it, but they are the minority, and us true Southerners despise those kinds of folks.
Because their ancestors were slaves and the weight of history lands on their shoulders. And maybe if we want great communities, we need to build community first.
You have another flag available that might be used by all Americans. Why not choose it? The one that represents all Americans and not just some?
I don't get that, I really don't.
I see that you dont get it, its ok, Im here to educate you
The Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, that most folks like yourself like to call the Confederate Flag, only flew for 4 years if that. It was adopted from the Tennessee Battle Flag. Mostly because the original Confederate Flag looked too much like the actual American Flag.
Anyway, it only flew for 4 years. Slavery was around much longer before that. Slaves arrived in Yankee ports, and were sold to the South. If anything, I would think more folks would be angry about THAT flag, instead of one that flew for 4 years.
Martin Luther King Jr., even said himself not to tear down monuments and flags. To leave them alone if we wanted to come together, or else it would cause division.
To a lot us, and I mean a LOT of us, that flag has nothing to do with slavery one bit. It has to do with our ancestors fighting for their families, lives and homeland.
If you check out my history thread, I recently pointed out how that war wasnt even started over freeing the slaves.
I am not able to get you to see another point of view and vice-versa. Oh well.
However, the American flag that I fly for specific holidays and remembrances doesn't hurt anyone that's a patriot.
Oh, I see the other point of view, but I also know it was orchestrated to make them feel that way by the Media Masters. Thus, I would rather my point of view be seen too, since its the one thats the most censored.
Yes, except yours was the flag of slavery and is the flag of despotism.
My flag is MORE Patriotic!
:Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy::Confederacy:
Sorry, blacks have hated that flag long before the media made it a topic of discussion.
No, my country's flag is the one that has represented a lot of terrible things, but always forged ahead to evolve to always reach for a "more perfect union".
Slavery is illegal, right? Why is that? You tell me.
That's sweet, and maybe true of many people who are into the Confederacy, but that doesn't change the fact that the whole history of the Confederate flag is charged with grief and violence and despair for many, many people.
