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He gets another chance to prove his innocence.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A federal judge in Wisconsin ruled Wednesday that a
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filed by the father of a man shot and killed by Kyle Rittenhouse during a protest in 2020 can proceed against Rittenhouse, police officers and others.

The father of Anthony Huber, one of two men
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, filed the lawsuit in 2021, accusing officers of allowing for a dangerous situation that violated his son's constitutional rights and resulted in his death. Anthony Huber's father, John Huber, also alleged that Rittenhouse, who was 17 at the time of the shootings, conspired with law enforcement to cause harm to protestors. John Huber is seeking unspecified damages from city officials, officers and Rittenhouse.

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He gets another chance to prove his innocence.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A federal judge in Wisconsin ruled Wednesday that a
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filed by the father of a man shot and killed by Kyle Rittenhouse during a protest in 2020 can proceed against Rittenhouse, police officers and others.

The father of Anthony Huber, one of two men
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, filed the lawsuit in 2021, accusing officers of allowing for a dangerous situation that violated his son's constitutional rights and resulted in his death. Anthony Huber's father, John Huber, also alleged that Rittenhouse, who was 17 at the time of the shootings, conspired with law enforcement to cause harm to protestors. John Huber is seeking unspecified damages from city officials, officers and Rittenhouse.

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It's not gonna stick. Hubert is on video literally attacking Kyle with a skateboard.

If I get physically attacked by a leftwing rioting male do I have a right to defend myself or nah?

It's amazing how victim blaming is such a thing now with so called "progressives" who now believe if you go somewhere people think you "shouldnt be" than you are obligated to allow yourself to be harmed. Beaten. Killed. Raped.

Never mind the fact that the rioters were NOT invited to Kenosha and were NOT welcomed there yet they decided to force themselves into the communities of others and destroy their home.

This isnt gonna stick. I think its incredibly sad that people have turned a 17 year old boy into "teh right" and are pissed off that he actually has human rights.

This is why I dont think modern progressive should ever be allowed power. Theyll abuse it. They sit and decide....based on ideology....who has human rights and who does not. Total authoritarians.

No one is a "Kyle fan". Its the premise. Showing Americans that they are forfeiting their human and constitutional rights by force if they are attacked by a leftwing mob. It's disgusting and yes....that's civil war shit.
 

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The lawsuit is a joke and will fail.



Huber was a piece of shit, he beat his own grandmother who was the only person who cared enough to take in a criminal drug addict, and his "father" had only bothered to see him 2-3 times in 20 years. This sperm donor didn't give a shit about his son and that is probably why Huber turned out to be a piece of shit.
 

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About how left wing activists are funding junk lawsuits against Kyle to drain his resources.

 

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They simply cannot get over a child being able to defend himself

A God fearing and morally upright Child is even more of a trigger for them
 

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He gets another chance to prove his innocence.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A federal judge in Wisconsin ruled Wednesday that a
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filed by the father of a man shot and killed by Kyle Rittenhouse during a protest in 2020 can proceed against Rittenhouse, police officers and others.

The father of Anthony Huber, one of two men
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, filed the lawsuit in 2021, accusing officers of allowing for a dangerous situation that violated his son's constitutional rights and resulted in his death. Anthony Huber's father, John Huber, also alleged that Rittenhouse, who was 17 at the time of the shootings, conspired with law enforcement to cause harm to protestors. John Huber is seeking unspecified damages from city officials, officers and Rittenhouse.

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In civil proceedings the standard of proof is "preponderance of evidence". A lot easier to prove.

I hope it works out, but it is redneck land, so who knows what a jury will do.
 

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Give the left a few more years and the standard for a criminal conviction will be even lower than a preponderance of evidence

they advocate for mob rule
 

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Give the left a few more years and the standard for a criminal conviction will be even lower than a preponderance of evidence

they advocate for mob rule

There is no relationship between criminal behavior and preponderance of evidence in a civil trial.

The standard of evidence is higher in a criminal trial: it's is "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt".

What kid of jury did you sit on before?
 

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About how left wing activists are funding junk lawsuits against Kyle to drain his resources.



Pretty sure the US has laws against frivolous lawsuits and using the system to harass, if the left shouldn't abuse the law for political pie then neither should the right. You get one try with a civil case then your arse gets canned.
 

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There is no relationship between criminal behavior and preponderance of evidence in a civil trial.

The standard of evidence is higher in a criminal trial: it's is "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt".

What kid of jury did you sit on before?
Jesus christ

seriously?

you had difficulty understanding my point?

Where did I say there was a relationship? I was speaking in terms of the standard which is applied. Hello?

So if the criminal standard is lowered from "beyond reasonable doubt" to one that is for all intents and purposes is equal to "preponderance of evidence" despite what it may ultimately be called within the criminal context what does that mean?

take your time.
 

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In civil proceedings the standard of proof is "preponderance of evidence". A lot easier to prove.

I hope it works out, but it is redneck land, so who knows what a jury will do.

Alot easier to prove guilt also means lot easierto prove innocent. Kyles already jumped the high hurdle here, what kind of tort grants financial restoration for a lawful killing? Your dumb ass doesn't understand the law either.
 

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Jesus christ

seriously?

you had difficulty understanding my point?

Where did I say there was a relationship? I was speaking in terms of the standard which is applied. Hello?

So if the criminal standard is lowered from "beyond reasonable doubt" to one that is for all intents and purposes is equal to "preponderance of evidence" despite what it may ultimately be called within the criminal context what does that mean?

take your time.

How will that happen?

They haven't changed standards for conviction, there is way too much case law to run roughshod over it.

What has happened is the standards for charging for petty crimes has changed. No other standards have been relaxed.
 

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Alot easier to prove guilt also means lot easierto prove innocent. Kyles already jumped the high hurdle here, what kind of tort grants financial restoration for a lawful killing? Your dumb ass doesn't understand the law either.

OJ Simpson was found "innocent" in criminal court. He was found guilty in the civil proceedings for wrongful death.

Your dumb ass doesn't know shit from crap.
 

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Alot easier to prove guilt also means lot easierto prove innocent. Kyles already jumped the high hurdle here, what kind of tort grants financial restoration for a lawful killing? Your dumb ass doesn't understand the law either.
the fact he has already jumped the high hurdle is actually the point here.

They want the standard lowered so they can punish him through alternative means. More than likely won't go anywhere but even if it does what are they going to get? The kid doesn't have anything yet
 

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the fact he has already jumped the high hurdle is actually the point here.

They want the standard lowered so they can punish him through alternative means. More than likely won't go anywhere but even if it does what are they going to get? The kid doesn't have anything yet

It will ruin his life. If he loses, anything he does get will be owed to the family.
 

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How will that happen?

They haven't changed standards for conviction, there is way too much case law to run roughshod over it.

What has happened is the standards for charging for petty crimes has changed. No other standards have been relaxed.
Give the left some time and the unchecked power they crave and watch how fast both the standard and every right you believe you are entitled to vaporizes into thin air.
 

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OJ Simpson was found "innocent" in criminal court. He was found guilty in the civil proceedings for wrongful death.

Your dumb ass doesn't know shit from crap.

OJ Simpson had to argue against "preponderance of the evidence" In that all evidence indicated he was guilty but nothing was known for sure. This is not the case here where events were all filmed with no doubt, no jury will convict on that.
 

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This would be different had Kyle been proven guilty. But he came out innocent on everything. He dont owe shit.

In fact, it should be like deer hunting, and Kyle deserves the skateboard to hang on his wall as a trophy.
 

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It will ruin his life. If he loses, anything he does get will be owed to the family.
And that is of course, exactly what you want for the crime of defending himself

Just like the Christian baker whose only crime was believing in his God
 

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And that is of course, exactly what you want for the crime of defending himself

Just like the Christian baker whose only crime was believing in his God

I think there should be a cost for killing people, yes.

We don't have to agree on this or argue the same points again. It's a waste of time.
 

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Good luck with that.

Theres no luck involved. In the OJ case the criminal court gave him the benefit of the doubt, in the civil case the victims relatives were given the benefit of the doubt. In the Rittenhouse case there is no doubt, its all on film and clearly shows events, this is what preponderance of evidence refers to, who gets the benefit of the doubt.
most libs thought the 3 Rittenhouse shot were black, wtf do you know?
 

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I think there should be a cost for killing people, yes.

We don't have to agree on this or argue the same points again. It's a waste of time.
So if someone running with a mob attacks you and you defend yourself by taking their life in response their family should get rich over the misfortune?

Interesting perspective on justice there