Alien Invasion on the horizon?

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How do you jack a thread on a subject so loosed of reason and sanity? One without rational moorings.
. Seems like it might drift anywhere...right into then right out of our very galaxy.

Oh look, some object is entering our region of space from another.
. Could it be...Ayyyyyleeeeeins?
I have a very close friend from LA that believes in aliens. He acknowledges my skepticism, but swears he's seen an alien. Other that this belief of his, he's perfectly rational. So, because his friendship matters more than being "right", I simply say that aliens are indeed a possibility, but I have never seen evidence of them. He accepts that as well.

Though we're both Californian, this seems to be a solid SoCal thing. LA especially is a different animal with the psychics, gurus, spritual healers, herbalists...

Not that there aren't people in NorCal that also believe those things, they do, it's just not as prevalent.
 
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I have a very close friend from LA that believes in aliens. He acknowledges my skepticism, but swears he's seen an alien. Other that this belief of his, he's perfectly rational. So, because his friendship matters more than being "right", I simply say that aliens are indeed a possibility, but I have never seen evidence of them. He accepts that as well.

Though we're both Californian, this seems to be a solid SoCal thing. LA especially is a different animal with the psychics, gurus, spritual healers, herbalists...

Not that there aren't people in NorCal that also believe those things, they do, it's just not as prevalent.
People want to believe, Lily.
They Want to Believe:

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Not that there aren't actual verifiable things to believe in and pursue.
 

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An alien species that could travel the distances needed to visit us would pretty much have to be at least a Type2 civilization on the Kardashev scale. We aren't even a Type1 or anywhere near it.

They don't talk to us for the same reason we don't strike up conversations with random opossums or squirrels.

After "You like nuts and berries? Me too!" we'd have fuckall to say to each other.

Maybe they don't have anything better to do
 

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Maybe they don't have anything better to do


They could be fighting over nonsense on forums just like our species. Maybe their forums are more advanced. Like you could send a minor electrical shock to the person that you're responding to if you so choose. That could be cool.

Nothing dangerous mind you, just enough to make their hair stand on end.
 

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They could be fighting over nonsense on forums just like our species. Maybe their forums are more advanced. Like you could send a minor electrical shock to the person that you're responding to if you so choose. That could be cool.

Nothing dangerous mind you, just enough to make their hair stand on end.

Or maybe they send you an attachment in PM and it smells like a beer fart
 
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I have a very close friend from LA that believes in aliens. He acknowledges my skepticism, but swears he's seen an alien. Other that this belief of his, he's perfectly rational. So, because his friendship matters more than being "right", I simply say that aliens are indeed a possibility, but I have never seen evidence of them. He accepts that as well.

Though we're both Californian, this seems to be a solid SoCal thing. LA especially is a different animal with the psychics, gurus, spritual healers, herbalists...

Not that there aren't people in NorCal that also believe those things, they do, it's just not as prevalent.
I never even said I believe in "aliens." All I said is I believe some of the very credible people who have reported sightings of UFOs. The many hundreds of people. I never even suggested that I believe all of the people. And fucking Holliday decided that was a good reason to ridicule me. I've never even suggested that other people should believe what I believe. And all I believe is that there is a high probability there's something out there. That is the entirety of my belief. Some people go nuts when you don't believe everything they believe. It's bizarre.
 

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I never even said I believe in "aliens." All I said is I believe some of the very credible people who have reported sightings of UFOs. The many hundreds of people. I never even suggested that I believe all of the people. And fucking Holliday decided that was a good reason to ridicule me. I've never even suggested that other people should believe what I believe. And all I believe is that there is a high probability there's something out there. That is the entirety of my belief. Some people go nuts when you don't believe everything they believe. It's bizarre.

I think it's rational to believe that we can't be alone in the entire Universe. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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They could be fighting over nonsense on forums just like our species. Maybe their forums are more advanced. Like you could send a minor electrical shock to the person that you're responding to if you so choose. That could be cool.

Nothing dangerous mind you, just enough to make their hair stand on end.
Wow. If there's actually another "intelligent" species that's doing the shit we do on the internet, there is no hope for the universe.
 
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I think it's rational to believe that we can't be alone in the entire Universe. Nothing wrong with that.
I actually think it's delusional to believe we're the only "intelligent" species of any kind. But I also think it's delusional to defend Israeli policy.
 
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PS, I am not in any way, shape, or form a "New Age" person or whatever they call themselves now. Those people kind of repulse me. Though I am very interested in Buddhism. But in the real thing, not some privileged, bored person's interpretation of that.

My belief in the possibility of other life forms has nothing whatsoever to do with that stuff, anyway. It's simple logic. Look out at the stars. Now, how many more solar systems are there beyond ours? Solar systems we can't possibly see. And how much do we know about them? Then please use logic to argue how there can not be other intelligent life anywhere out there. Use the science to prove to me that they don't exist.
 

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PS, I am not in any way, shape, or form a "New Age" person or whatever they call themselves now. Those people kind of repulse me. Though I am very interested in Buddhism. But in the real thing, not some privileged, bored person's interpretation of that.

My belief in the possibility of other life forms has nothing whatsoever to do with that stuff, anyway. It's simple logic. Look out at the stars. Now, how many more solar systems are there beyond ours? Solar systems we can't possibly see. And how much do we know about them? Then please use logic to argue how there can not be other intelligent life anywhere out there. Use the science to prove to me that they don't exist.

I know little about Buddhism beyond what falls under common knowledge. The part about accepting human suffering as part of life, which it is, clashes with my belief in more just societies.

Seems like a message that is a thread in several major religions. That kind of message works for those in power, doesn't it?
 

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I never even said I believe in "aliens." All I said is I believe some of the very credible people who have reported sightings of UFOs. The many hundreds of people. I never even suggested that I believe all of the people. And fucking Holliday decided that was a good reason to ridicule me. I've never even suggested that other people should believe what I believe. And all I believe is that there is a high probability there's something out there. That is the entirety of my belief. Some people go nuts when you don't believe everything they believe. It's bizarre.
... riiiiiiiight ...

Anyway, I saw a UFO once in East Moline, Illinois round about 1979-1980. Me and my buddy Gunner Joe were driving down 34th street in my 1969 two-door hardtop Pontiac Bonneville, down a long hill into the valley where the Rock River empties into the mighty Mississippi.

My car looked just like this, only it was a hardtop, not a vinyltop:

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I loved that car and wish I still had it.

Suddenly, right above and in front of my car, this glowing orb appeared. It glowed with this bluish, greenish, purple light. It appeared to be a sphere, about 20 feet wide, and tracked us as we rode down the hill. It seemed to rotate in on itself, and parts of it looked like gears that interlocked with other gears, like the wheels within wheels described in those famous Bible passages.

Of course I braked as I stared up at it, and it kept perfect pace with my car, slowing as I slowed. And then, as I reached the bottom of the hill at a stoplight where 34th street ended at the John Deere Highway, that was then called Illinois Route 5 (and is now Interstate 88), the thing went "zooosh" and zipped away, becoming just a pinpoint of light within a few seconds and disappeared.

We sat silently at the stop light for a few moments until Joe said "No one will fucking believe us."

"Yeah," I answered, "but I'm gonna tell everyone anyway."

"They'll just call us crazy drunk fuck ups.," Joe said.

I looked over at Joe and said "They already do."
 
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We sat silently at the stop light for a few moments until Joe said "No one will fucking believe us."

"Yeah," I answered, "but I'm gonna tell everyone anyway."

"They'll just call us crazy drunk fuck ups.," Joe said.

I looked over at Joe and said "They already do."
...and then you embraced and locked lips in a passionate kiss ...

That is a nice car, Regg. A real classic.