California's say NO to recall

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

 

[Joe]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

They should lower their birth rates.

Rather than view Mexico's Decision to allow Abortions, they ought to see it as a relief. Hopefully following Mexico's lead, the rest of Latin America will allow it too & give beleaguered Americans overrun with illegals some relief.

Mexico has lowered their birth rates, tremendously. In the early 60's it was about 7 births per fertile female. It's down to 2.4 and the US is 2.1, not that much different anymore.

Actually the whole planet needs birth control/family planning.

The rich nations should offer the poorer overly fertile ones incentives & loan forgiveness to achieve their targets. It would be much more economical to spend money on birth control than to spend money on bombs to kill them in some future war.

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

 

[Murdy]

I love how all the people who live in states that don’t share a boarder with Mexico are “experts” on this subject.

I worked in San Diego way back when and I had co-workers who were on work visas constantly being held at the boarder and not able to show up for work.

 

[Lily]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

I didn't say immediately, but yes, they will start leaving.

They left in droves after the economic crash in 2008. That's a fact you can't argue against, the data has been compiled by the government. See, they can leave and their children, at the age of majority can choose to come back, they're citizens.

 

[Lily]

I love how all the people who live in states that don’t share a boarder with Mexico are “experts” on this subject.

I worked in San Diego way back when and I had co-workers who were on work visas constantly being held at the boarder and not able to show up for work.

But Fucker Tarlson says....

 

[Murdy]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

most of the negative outrage is based on the statewide shutdown… no one wanted LA to close… can you blame them?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

most of the negative outrage is based on the statewide shutdown… no one wanted LA to close… can you blame them?

No, I'm sick and tired of the lockdown too. I blame the unvaccinated though. Get your fucking jabs so we can all go back to normal. Are some people going to die? Yes, I suppose some will. But fewer will die from the jab than the virus.

That is just the truth.

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

I didn't say immediately, but yes, they will start leaving.

They left in droves after the economic crash in 2008. That's a fact you can't argue against, the data has been compiled by the government. See, they can leave and their children, at the age of majority can choose to come back, they're citizens.

So how does a family of 6 get from point a to point b if Dad loses his day laboring sheetrocking job tomorrow?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

I see you don't see what 67,100 deaths and billions lost for nothing means. Noted

 

[Lily]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

I didn't say immediately, but yes, they will start leaving.

They left in droves after the economic crash in 2008. That's a fact you can't argue against, the data has been compiled by the government. See, they can leave and their children, at the age of majority can choose to come back, they're citizens.

So how does a family of 6 get from point a to point b if Dad loses his day laboring sheetrocking job tomorrow?

They go home to family. All the remittances to Mexico and other Latin American countries go to who, Joo?

 

[Biggie Smiles]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

I didn't say immediately, but yes, they will start leaving.

They left in droves after the economic crash in 2008. That's a fact you can't argue against, the data has been compiled by the government. See, they can leave and their children, at the age of majority can choose to come back, they're citizens.

So how does a family of 6 get from point a to point b if Dad loses his day laboring sheetrocking job tomorrow?

They go home to family. All the remittances to Mexico and other Latin American countries go to who, Joo?

That's quite a leap of an assumption there lily.

Have you compiled all the data on that one too?

 

[Murdy]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

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whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

 

[Biggie Smiles]

As of September 13, 2021, there have been 659,975 deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States. There have been 67,100 deaths in the state of California, more than any other state in the country – California is also the state with the

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Ouch

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

I see you don't see what 67,100 deaths and billions lost for nothing means. Noted

Stop embarrassing yourself. It is 67k out of 40 million.

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[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

Ah... so we're out to use ancillary excuses now?

Okay, perhaps Florida has as many deaths as we do because we have the highest population of vulnerable seniors in the nation?

YOu know, following the science?

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

I see you don't see what 67,100 deaths and billions lost for nothing means. Noted

Stop embarrassing yourself. It is 67k out of 40 million.

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Yes, and 655K out of more than 350 million.

You were saying something about totally embarrassing self ownages?

 

[Lily]

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

I find it hilarious that the side who initially supported slavery is now complaining about not being able to keep

I think his observation is astute tbh.

I know ALL of my friends here are furious over Republicans trying to force their extreme Christianity ideologies on women… and I’m talking about educated women who are raising children and holding down careers and own property, etc.

As it pertains to abortion, there may be some truth to that. I don't think that the average California voter was focused on the domestic violence allegations against him though. It was about the GOP power grab.

Translated: "See what we did in Texas? Well we're gonna do that to you if we take over California."

Yes, that is how it was perceived for some. More importantly, see what is happening with Covid over there, we can do that for you too.

Are you referring to rising Covid rates in Texas?

Yes, Texas and Florida were/are in the midst of huge surges. Elder said if he won, he was eliminating any Covid mandates.

He knew he might have a chance if he said that…. but we are too large a state with heavy tourism to have no mandates. Sorry, not sorry for pointing out the painfully obvious.

Larry Elder made an impression as a mean Republican rather than one with a Kinder gentler persona like Ronald Reagan. Reagan understood that to win his party had to appeal to the American voter. The present crop of Republicans could learn from him.

Reagan put the force of his administration behind "amnesty". There is no way the GOP of today would elect anyone like Reagan today.

Sorry bitch, but that was a deal he made with you people in good faith. Of course your side didnt hold up your end of the bargan cause you've always been liars. It was one of Reagans biggest regrets....trusting democRATs at their word.

There is no way that the stem of immigration will end until your party agrees to sanctioning employers. No jobs, no illegals.

Maybe this is a very narrow thing we might agree on, probably for different reasons. I would shut businesses down that employ illegals. However, the fact remains that democrats didnt hold up their end of the bargain with Reagan.

Nothing they could have done would stop the flow. Desperate people are going to do desperate things. Employers should be fined, prosecuted, etc. However, the Chamber of Commerce GOPers were having none of it, along with major agricultural & meat packing industries, hospitality industry and construction.

Cheap labor is too attractive.

And if we make it nearly impossible for them to get into the country? Then what?

You can’t run a wall through the Rio Grande. They have been swimming here since California was made a state. You’re only an immigration prevention hype man now because Donnie was trying sooo desperately to beat Obama’s ICE numbers.

Why didn't dems cry when Obama put these "ICE numbers" on the board then?


asking for a friend

It’s irrelevant… but whenever the economy is in the shitter, the Republitards play this card.

My mom even brought the issues at the boarder up when we were discussing her being a Trumper… and I had to show her that we will always have this issue at the boarder and there are already departments who are paid to handle it.

Her biggest argument was “well all these people keep showing up!” And I’m like it’s gonna keep happening, mama. Until we buy Mexico we will need boarder patrol. Get over it. It’s not our problem. We pay taxes to not worry about this shit.

We don't need to buy Mexico. We just need to go after employers that give them jobs.

Assume for just a second that we could immediately wipe out every 10.00 an hour off the books job in an instant.

What happens to the millions that were using those jobs to support themselves? Do they simply radio back to the enterprise and ask Scotty to beam them back into Mexico?

They will go back on their own.

I see. Immediately vaporize their jobs tomorrow and they'll just immediately pick up and magically just transport themselves on their own

good talk

I didn't say immediately, but yes, they will start leaving.

They left in droves after the economic crash in 2008. That's a fact you can't argue against, the data has been compiled by the government. See, they can leave and their children, at the age of majority can choose to come back, they're citizens.

So how does a family of 6 get from point a to point b if Dad loses his day laboring sheetrocking job tomorrow?

They go home to family. All the remittances to Mexico and other Latin American countries go to who, Joo?

That's quite a leap of an assumption there lily.

Have you compiled all the data on that one too?

There was a natural experiment when the economy crashed 13 years ago. It showed us what illegal immigrants did when the jobs dried up.

 

[Admin.]

As of September 13, 2021, there have been 659,975 deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States. There have been 67,100 deaths in the state of California, more than any other state in the country – California is also the state with the

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.

Ouch

Stoopidittie comes so natural to you, you make it seem effortless.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.

You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

I see you don't see what 67,100 deaths and billions lost for nothing means. Noted

Stop embarrassing yourself. It is 67k out of 40 million.

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Yes, and 655K out of more than 350 million.

You were saying something about totally embarrassing self ownages?

You asked a question and I answered it. The death of 660K Americans isn't a joke or troll fodder, except for right wingers like you.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

As of September 13, 2021, there have been 659,975 deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States. There have been 67,100 deaths in the state of California, more than any other state in the country – California is also the state with the

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.

Ouch

Stoopidittie comes so natural to you, you make it seem effortless.

Sucking dick comes as natural reflex to you.

 

[Lily]

As my forum friend Rabbit would say "obtuse troll is going to be obtuse".

 

[Biggie Smiles]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

I see you don't understand what a rate is. Noted.

I see you don't see what 67,100 deaths and billions lost for nothing means. Noted

Stop embarrassing yourself. It is 67k out of 40 million.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Yes, and 655K out of more than 350 million.

You were saying something about totally embarrassing self ownages?

You asked a question and I answered it. The death of 660K Americans isn't a joke or troll fodder, except for right wingers like you.

Only when you attempt to use it against trump

I see.

You don't apparently but that isn't a surprise

 

[Lily]

Have we been able to locate a Gavin Newsom policy that has impacted Californian's in a positive way?

Covid-19

Yeah, 67,100 deaths at the expense of billions in lost small business revenue
Fantastic accomplishment

There are 32 states that have a higher death rates that California

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

whataboutism

Denial.

You asked what was one good policy that Newsom was responsible for. I pointed it out. You questioned it and I came back with facts.

He's done better than 32 other governors on Covid. That is a fact that is indisputable.

California has the most deaths despite the most draconian business killing COVID measures. If you want to call that an accomplishment be my guest

because we have the most people in our state in the entire nation… that might have something to do with it

See, why I push back at ignorance and people call me mean? I'm not mean, I'm irritated at the ignorance coupled with arrogance.

You're irritated becaue you are too fucking stupid to support your bullshit claims and you happen to be speaking to someone who is vastly more intelligent than you are. Far more successful too

Now we're going to start the ad hom attacks and macho bravado about being superior. HOO HOO, that train is always on time.

 

[Biggie Smiles]

So I ask again, can we cite a policy Gavin Newsom implemented which didn't end up killing 67,100 Californians and vaporizing billions in small business revenue?


anything at all?