Clearing Up Confusion: What is Communism?

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Hi there BF. I might make a YT series on this at some point.

In the past few years, I have seen a lot of improper word use that approaches something like a mix of ignorance and populism. A lot of words like "Fascism" "Communism" "Fascist" "Communist" "Left/Right Wing" etc. have been used incorrectly for so often that they are beginning to become nearly meaningless words that have different definitions to different audiences.

In this post I am going to attempt to "clear up" the confusion around the word "Communism", which, more so during the cold war but still used today, has become somewhat of a pejorative buzzword to many people. To others it is a word used to signify their adherence to a particular groups ideology/beliefs.

DISCLAIMER: In order to properly describe what communism is, I will have to use language that is also ambiguous, I will try to avoid doing this as much as possible.

DISCLAIMER 2: I am attempting to be as unbiased as possible in this, let me know down below if any bias shows. I don't favor/like Communism in any way shape or form, nor do I dislike it.

Communism

Communism is a socioeconomic structure in which the ownership of land, labor, and capital, as well as the means of distribution and exchange are commonly owned, and in which goods and services are allocated to people solely based on their needs.

While there are different branches of Communism, they generally tend to have the same set of requirements, listed below:

- The abolition of private property (not of private property, which are privately owned but movable goods).
- the abolition of currency.
- The abolition of a class system, more specifically of an economic hierarchy.
- the abolition of private property, as theorized by Engels, would by proxy lead to the absence of competition in society.

Common misconceptions about Communism:

1: The USSR/China/Cuba was/is a Communist nation.

- While these nations did implement socialist/communist policies (Collectivization of resources, Government-provided healthcare, etc.), they did not exhibit the factors required for a nation to be considered Communist, the most important ones being listed above.

2: You will have property taken from you in a Communist society.

- This supposition is partially true, but people often conflate personal and private property. Private property refers to privately owned factors of production, while personal property refers to privately owned goods, as well as intellectual properties.

3: Communism killed X amount of people.

- Regarding people that say that "Communism" in Y country killed X amount of people during the 20th century, this is only partially true. In such situations, "Communism" was a part of a larger problem, oftentimes Authoritarianism/Totalitarianism went hand-in-hand with "Communism", along with other factors, such as wars/conflicts, climate, etc. The causes of deaths in these nations (usually The USSR and China are used as examples) are multifaceted and cannot be solely attributed to 1 or 2 economic/social structures/pressures.
 
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Your description was based on factual information. I think you were fairly neutral.

That's literally what everyone knows it to be.

The lack of understanding is you guys don't understand the objections and anytime someone attempts to clarify you aren't listening.

What communism is on paper will never be what it is in practice. And people said this. Many times. And go into how attempts at communism have caused millions of deaths.

I think you guys are just so eager to fight and call other people stupid that you don't even know what others are actually saying.
 

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That's literally what everyone knows it to be.

The lack of understanding is you guys don't understand the objections and anytime someone attempts to clarify you aren't listening.

What communism is on paper will never be what it is in practice. And people said this. Many times. And go into how attempts at communism have caused millions of deaths.

I think you guys are just so eager to fight and call other people stupid that you don't even know what others are actually saying.


Who are these "you guys" you mention?

The same two or three political posters you have been posting and arguing with since Stomping ground and beyond, come one don't go full retard here, you should stop torturing yourself trying to argue with the "you guys" who "are just eager to fight" and perhaps talk to some new people on other forums, there are other forums way bigger than this out there that have humans on them and not bridge trolls.
 

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That's literally what everyone knows it to be.

The lack of understanding is you guys don't understand the objections and anytime someone attempts to clarify you aren't listening.

What communism is on paper will never be what it is in practice. And people said this. Many times. And go into how attempts at communism have caused millions of deaths.

I think you guys are just so eager to fight and call other people stupid that you don't even know what others are actually saying.

When I want the opinion of a skid row ho...I will come to you.
 

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Everyone is agreeing pretty much and she wants to start a fight. All the while blaming everyone else for fighting. :Crazy:
Exactly, she did exactly what she always does - accuse everyone of exactly the things she is guilty of.
.She lives in a very upside-down back to front world of confusion.
 

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Her mind is unscrammbleable due to the child abuse and subsequent issues. It's sad.
That's why I never rank her above #3 on the BadlyRetardedFagtory Biggest Moron list.
..and given an addition over the last few days I may even drop her to fourth.

Yeah, she's fairly irredeemable. Explain your ranking system.

I would think she'd move up on the list though there's stiff competition.
 

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In the past few years, I have seen a lot of improper word use that approaches something like a mix of ignorance and populism. A lot of words like "Fascism" "Communism" "Fascist" "Communist" "Left/Right Wing" etc. have been used incorrectly for so often that they are beginning to become nearly meaningless words that have different definitions to different audiences.

KoF, you dopey bitch, why not post a correction when you see people use words like "Fascism" "Communism" "Fascist" "Communist" "Left/Right Wing" incorrectly?
 
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KoF, you dopey bitch, why not post a correction when you see people use words like "Fascism" "Communism" "Fascist" "Communist" "Left/Right Wing" incorrectly?
Because then i'd be working 2 full time jobs. 80 hours a week if I did it on Twitter.
 

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If I did it here I think I'd kill myself before I worked a full 10 hours at it.

KoF, you dopey bitch, why not post a correction when you see people use words like "Fascism" "Communism" "Fascist" "Communist" "Left/Right Wing" incorrectly?

So your answer is "Because it would cause me to commit suicide."

Okay. Try not to kill yourself.