Donald Trump Allies Threaten California Officials With Prison

[The New Holliday]

I skimmed the article...everything that were resisting with is about teaching people to assert their rights.

Rights to cheap unprotected/unregulated labor is the American Way.

There will be a lodda resistance to mass deportations from the deep right - Deep State.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

I skimmed the article...everything that were resisting with is about teaching people to assert their rights.

In Chicago, our grassroots organizing to defend our neighbors led to one of the most

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in the nation. The Chicago Police Department is legally barred from working with ICE in any case, with no exceptions. During Trump’s second term, it will be critical to defend such policies already on the books, to expand the number of cities and states that have these policies on their books, and to close loopholes that undermine these policies. For example, while Chicagoland’s Cook County has prohibited public official cooperation with ICE, ICE still targets the county’s undocumented residents through data purchased from

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who do business with the county. That’s why the two of us are working to pass No Data for ICE legislation through the County Board of Commissioners.

Laws which bar local law enforcement from cooperating with immigration law enforcement are, themselves, nullified.

To distil: If a city passes a law which is itself unlawful, that law is null.

 

[Lily]

Laws which bar local law enforcement from cooperating with immigration law enforcement are, themselves, nullified.

To distil: If a city passes a law which is itself unlawful, that law is null.

It's not their jawb

 

[Neil B. Formi]

It's not their jawb

Then, ostensibly, the Obama Administration was out of line when it thwarted Arizona's SB1070. Yes? Or no?

 

[Lily]

Then, ostensibly, the Obama Administration was out of line when it thwarted Arizona's SB1070. Yes? Or no?

Immigration enforcement is the Federal government's job, though

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Immigration enforcement is the Federal government's job, though

And when they are derelict in their duty to perform that job, that doesn't mean the job isn't going to get done. Just means they won't be the ones doing it.

 

[Lily]

And when they are derelict in their duty to perform that job, that doesn't mean the job isn't going to get done. Just means they won't be the ones doing it.

That's not the role of the state.

That's where your arguments fall apart.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

That's not the role of the state.

That's where your arguments fall apart.

Limited Preemption says otherwise. When the Federal government refuses to enforce a Federal law, affected States are granted the authority to do so under Preemption.

For example, if China were to launch a land invasion of Alaska, and the Feds just sat on their dicks and let it happen, Alaska would have the authority to fight back on its own. (Not saying they'd have a chicken nugget's chance in a preschool, just saying they'd have that authority. Federal refusal to take action is not the End-All that sanctuary city enthusiasts think it is.)

 

[Lily]

Limited Preemption says otherwise. When the Federal government refuses to enforce a Federal law, affected States are granted the authority to do so under Preemption.

Preemption is hierarchical...a higher level of government can preempt.

The federal government is at the top od the food chain.

 

[Neil B. Formi]

Preemption is hierarchical...a higher level of government can preempt.

The federal government is at the top od the food chain.

When they take action, they are, yes. When they sit on their dicks and do nothing, then action removes back to the States, who can themselves take action when the Feds won't.

But the law is structured such that the Feds cannot simply say, "That's for us to do" and then do nothing.

IOW, the Feds cannot, through inaction, permit criminal activity. They have to enforce the law, and if they don't, the States can.

 

[Lily]

When they take action, they are, yes. When they sit on their dicks and do nothing, then action removes back to the States, who can themselves take action when the Feds won't.

But the law is structured such that the Feds cannot simply say, "That's for us to do" and then do nothing.

IOW, the Feds cannot, through inaction, permit criminal activity. They have to enforce the law, and if they don't, the States can.

The feds never stopped enforcing federal immigration laws...

 

[Neil B. Formi]

The feds never stopped enforcing federal immigration laws...

You might want to review the past four years.

 

[Lily]

You might want to review the past four years.

SB 1070 was the last 4 years? You're pivoting.

Becuase the government doesn't do things the way some people want only gives them the power they do have ...vote them out. Not take power not granted to them in the Constitution

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Accusing someone of criminal acts and actually convicting them using said law are two different animals. You're all about the law when it fits your narrative. This dog however will not bark. Sanctuary cities that incorporate their intent into state law and pass it with a voting mandate are immune to bullshit like your link.

Don't lecture me, you look stupid. "filth democrats" and " "vile and disgusting Democrat scum" displays your bias (not your knowledge), your ignorance is evident in everything else you say.

There will be no cooperation with the Trump regime, there will be no "mass deportations" and there will be no federal prosecutions of states that resist as y'all will come to bear witness to.

Sorry, jack, but Federal Law supercedes the political stunts of Democrat scum. The cities and States that have proclaimed themselves "Sanctuaries" are only so through empty proclamations that have absolutely no constitutional grounding either at the State or Federal level.

Correct me if I'm wrong (with citations), but I don't believe any State has amended its Constitution to allow for "Sanctuary" zones that are immune to the Federal Laws that all the several States have agreed to abide by.

There WILL be mass deportations because President Trump has been given an overwhelming mandate to do so by The People. If Democrat politicians want to play games and impede the Federal authorities from fulfilling that mandate, then they will be prosecuted under existing Federal statutes.

Like I said, jackie boy, it's not a threat, it's a "Fuck Around And Find Out" promise by the incoming Administration.

 

[The New Holliday]

There WILL be mass deportations because President Trump has been given an overwhelming mandate to do so

LoLz

Dude - you are just toooo funny some times.
That was a good one. "overwhelming mandate" pthfffthhhh hahahah

 

[Reggie_Essent]

LoLz

Dude - you are just toooo funny some times.
That was a good one. "overwhelming mandate" pthfffthhhh hahahah

Go back to your little fishie thread and talk about Zebcos, Holliday.
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Happy New Year, asshole! ;)

 

[The New Holliday]

Go back to your little fishie thread and talk about Zebcos, Holliday.
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Happy New Year, asshole! ;)

Last time I pass you a compliment, bucko.

 

[Reggie_Essent]

Last time I pass you a compliment, bucko.

If I find such time in the coming new year, I'll tell you the story of why I think fishing sucks.

It's a cool story. I think you'd appreciate it, but I'd have to be sufficiently bored to bother telling it. Just now I'm clicking endlessly through video streams looking for something interesting, and telling you the story of why I hate fishing is even less interesting than that.

 

[The New Holliday]

If I find such time in the coming new year, I'll tell you the story of why I think fishing sucks.

It's a cool story. I think you'd appreciate it, but I'd have to be sufficiently bored to bother telling it. Just now I'm clicking endlessly through video streams looking for something interesting, and telling you the story of why I hate fishing is even less interesting than that.

I did mean to hurt you, Raggs. I'm sorry....and Happy New Year