Gasoline - $2.79 at the Pump Yesterday

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Lily, in 1970 I flew from Shitty City to LA. As we approached you could see a huge brown cloud of pollution hanging over the city. I had learned in Earth Science class about temperature inversions and how they trapped pollution and stayed for days and weeks. LA is particularly susceptible to this because of the mountains. As we cruised around the air felt stale and gritty. You hardly saw the Sun. This was way before any anti-pollution devices were on cars. Now you can practically suck on a tailpipe with no ill affects. So whatever it costs you to maintain clean air, do it. A small price to pay for your health. :Awesomeness:
 

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Lily, in 1970 I flew from Shitty City to LA. As we approached you could see a huge brown cloud of pollution hanging over the city. I had learned in Earth Science class about temperature inversions and how they trapped pollution and stayed for days and weeks. LA is particularly susceptible to this because of the mountains. As we cruised around the air felt stale and gritty. You hardly saw the Sun. This was way before any anti-pollution devices were on cars. Now you can practically suck on a tailpipe with no ill affects. So whatever it costs you to maintain clean air, do it. A small price to pay for your health. :Awesomeness:

Absolutely. I remember it from childhood. Most Californians are surrounded by mountains or hills.

Pollution is still a problem, but it could be much worse. There are 35 million cars registered in CA. Of course not all of them are on the road all the time, but even if half are on the road, a lot of pollution is being emitted.

And that's doesn't include most big rigs. CA gets 40% of the nation's imports. And 30% of exports.

You can't drive on any interstate freeway without being surrounded by big rigs.
 

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Remember during covid when LA skies were clear? And yet neocons still chirp about cheap gas back then.

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Pollution is still a problem, but it could be much worse.
It WAS much worse. Remember the movie 'It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad world'? They used Jay North [dennis the menace] to do the coming attraction clip. He was standing at a toll booth on an LA freeway, dozens of booths, and as each car came through, there was one of the cast driving and making a comment. You could see the oil and soot stains on the middle of the lanes from cars back then. Before PCV valves there were road draft tubes from the engine block that expelled crank case fumes into the air, and oily fumes congealed on the tube to drip onto the ground. Carburetors were jetted super rich so they would start and run in cold weather. That meant the rest of the year they produced oily soot. So as cars left the tool booths, oil and soot hit the ground and made a long black stain on the road. But gas was so cheap, no one cared. I think it was like 25 cents a gallon. Free tumblers with a fill up!

I remember reading where scientists taking core samples from the Arctic icepack can determine the years that there was lead in the gas. The atmospheric lead polluted the ice so badly it is easily identifiable. Imagine how much we breathed in growing up.

I also remember as a kid being told to dump waste oil down the sewer. YIKES!!! No wonder the Cayahoga river caught fire. I think Lake Erie did too.
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the one line all braindead progressive socialists use :Awesomeness: :GiggleBitch::GiggleBitch:
Not being braindead or a socialist, I'm sure I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 

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When I was stationed in Germany you had to buy gas by the liter. That is much less than a gallon, and was expensive. Luckily beer was also sold by the liter and much cheaper. So we usually chose to buy a lot of beer instead of gas.
Well, yes, we still buy by the liter in the EU, but I always multiply it by four, and then take the exchange rate into consideration to come to an approximate dollar amount when people are whinging about the price of gas in the US. It is always much more expensive here.
 

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Well, yes, we still buy by the liter in the EU, but I always multiply it by four, and then take the exchange rate into consideration to come to an approximate dollar amount when people are whinging about the price of gas in the US. It is always much more expensive here.
Yes, gas is expensive in Europe. No oil drilling except North Sea, so all imports. I get it. I was impressed by how frugal Europeans can be. Small cars, with small engines, mopeds, scooters, bicycles- with trailers!- and [shudder] WALKING. Many had cars, but only used them if they really needed it. No wasted trips, traffic jams, horrible crashes. I totally enjoyed taking the Strassenbahn from Furth to Nurnburg. But the best was when I bought a bicycle and went native. I blended right in.
 

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So gas is expensive in Europe. No oil drilling except North Sea, so all imports. I get it. I was impressed by how frugal Europeans can be. Small cars, with small engines, mopeds, scooters, bicycles- with trailers!- and [shudder] WALKING. Many had cars, but only used them if they really needed it. No wasted trips, traffic jams, horrible crashes. I totally enjoyd taking the Stassenbahn
Manual transmissions galore. Hard to find an automatic. In Portugal, anyway. Lots of electric cars and hybrids, too.
 

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Manual transmissions galore. Hard to find an automatic.
Lots of GI's bought cars from the locals. All manuals. I don't think I ever saw even one automatic. Being in Germany, tons of VW bugs. One guy had a VW bus. He stuffed a bunch of us in, drove way out into the boonies, and we caught a Savoy Brown concert at a small Gasthouse. I remember everyone chipping in for gas and the groaning that followed. This was in 1974 and even with the 'gas crisis' back home, we were stunned at the gas prices in Germany.
 

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Gas is 3.19 reg around these parts, but when you shop at a local grocery chain you get points when you buy groceries, so my last fillup was at 2.49 a gal.
 

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Gas is 3.19 reg around these parts, but when you shop at a local grocery chain you get points when you buy groceries, so my last fillup was at 2.49 a gal.

I think we just got another gas tax here in CA.

We pay 60 cents a gallon. It's going to go up by up to 65 cents more a gallon.
 

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Gas is 3.19 reg around these parts, but when you shop at a local grocery chain you get points when you buy groceries, so my last fillup was at 2.49 a gal.
Me too. We have the same deal but with Shell. The Stop-N-Shop stores give points, plus Advance Auto, and a few others. Then there is 'fill up X times a month- get another 15-20 cents off'. I know the best I ever did was pay less than two dollars a gallon. With all the holiday shopping I am looking to get my next fill-up less than a dollar a gallon. Keeping fingers crossed.:Happy5:
 

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I just paid $1.04 a gallon! The regular price was $2.79, and I used most of our Shell Fuel Rewards to drop it down that far. It would not let me pay less than $1 so in $.10 increments, $1.04 was the least I could pay. I bought 20 gallons while saving $35.00! That leaves another $.75 for next month. All my money the Wifey spent on Christmas food actually paid off!
 

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I just paid $1.04 a gallon! The regular price was $2.79, and I used most of our Shell Fuel Rewards to drop it down that far. It would not let me pay less than $1 so in $.10 increments, $1.04 was the least I could pay. I bought 20 gallons while saving $35.00! That leaves another $.75 for next month. All my money the Wifey spent on Christmas food actually paid off!
Yeah I payed 2.23 this morning on my fill up.